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2 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Kind like saying I would love to hear the stew out of someone and actually doing it .

 

Of course , the subject was sexually assaulting someone and settling out of court , which Clinton did.  Trump not so much.

no, not like that at all. maybe if we were talking about some random dude chilling with his friends in a bar - then yeah. but i totally believe trump has done what he talked about in that trailer. and i totally believe that more often than not women do 'let him'. most women who have had the luck to work with or be in the same social circles as entitled male silver spoons know how they treat women, as possessions (because that's how they treat everything). if he ever had a female turn him down after a grab, what female would be in a similar position of wealth and power to hold him accountable? as bill said " The person of power is supposed to be more responsible and not succumb to base human frailties." now, trump might not have had any political power at that time but everyone knows the power of wealth far surpasses political power. actually political power is something you can purchase with wealth, as we know see in trump. 

 

clinton's case was dismissed by the court. i guess you didn't read yuna's posts. 

 

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5 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

no, not like that at all. maybe if we were talking about some random dude chilling with his friends in a bar - then yeah. but i totally believe trump has done what he talked about in that trailer. and i totally believe that more often than not women do 'let him'. most women who have had the luck to work with or be in the same social circles as entitled male silver spoons know how they treat women, as possessions (because that's how they treat everything). if he ever had a female turn him down after a grab, what female would be in a similar position of wealth and power to hold him accountable? as bill said " The person of power is supposed to be more responsible and not succumb to base human frailties." now, trump might not have had any political power at that time but everyone knows the power of wealth far surpasses political power. actually political power is something you can purchase with wealth, as we know see in trump. 

 

clinton's case was dismissed by the court. i guess you didn't read yuna's posts. 

 

The Paula Jones case was settled not dismissed 

 

I am glad you agree about the abuse of power thing.  Clinton etc 

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4 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

The Paula Jones case was settled not dismissed 

 

I am glad you agree about the abuse of power thing.  Clinton etc 

Paul Jones case was dismissed in court. She appealed the court's ruling, which he then settled out of court.

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13 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Paul Jones case was dismissed in court. She appealed the court's ruling, which he then settled out of court.

So then, the cases conclusion was that it was settled out of court.

Darn the walking backwards has turned into a run.

Why can't people just ever go, I was wrong. I have had to do it several times in here. The it was dismissed narrative is absurd 

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27 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

In the military or in most Civlian companies if a the most senior person in the company, got sexual favors from the most junior , decades younger than them in their office their careers life would be over.  In the military they would be court martialed. 

 

I can't believe any women who backs the feminist movement would try to defend this.

 

 Look I get it, we all want to hold our leaders to a higher standard. Cheating on your wife is terrible sleazy thing to do, being in a position of power such as a President, congressperson, pope, priest, pastor, king, other elected official - my goodness it's a just a gross and stupid thing to do. But guess what? It happens all the time. If a woman says she was raped we should listen to what she has to say, even among the skepticism that often runs rampant. We should encourage her to bring her story forward, investigate, even put it before the court. But with the exception of Paula Jones, none of Clinton's accusers ever decided to press charges or file a lawsuit. Jones' case was dismissed because there were many issues about it. She appealed, and could have kept losing whether her allegations were true or false, and appealing as much as she chose. Settling stopped that and does not make the findings of the original court any less valid.

23 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So do you think she would have done it if he had been Bill the white house cook and was that much older than her.  No he abused his power and it has been proven he is a sexual predator. 

You'd have to ask her. Obviously Bill floated her boat. If she maintains it was a mutual relationship, that's all there is to it. When was it proven he was a sexual predator? Again, you can continue to think this of course, but that doesn't make it true (it may be true but it may also not be true), or proven.

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11 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

 Look I get it, we all want to hold our leaders to a higher standard. Cheating on your wife is terrible sleazy thing to do, being in a position of power such as a President, congressperson, pope, priest, pastor, king, other elected official - my goodness it's a just a gross and stupid thing to do. But guess what? It happens all the time. If a woman says she was raped we should listen to what she has to say, even among the skepticism that often runs rampant. We should encourage her to bring her story forward, investigate, even put it before the court. But with the exception of Paula Jones, none of Clinton's accusers ever decided to press charges or file a lawsuit. Jones' case was dismissed because there were many issues about it. She appealed, and could have kept losing whether her allegations were true or false, and appealing as much as she chose. Settling stopped that and does not make the findings of the original court any less valid.

You'd have to ask her. Obviously Bill floated her boat. If she maintains it was a mutual relationship, that's all there is to it. When was it proven he was a sexual predator? Again, you can continue to think this of course, but that doesn't make it true (it may be true but it may also not be true), or proven.

The conclusion of Jones case was it was settled out of court   Trump has never settled a sexual assault case out of court as alleged.

 

Walls of rambling text and rationalization will not change facts 

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28 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

The conclusion of Jones case was it was settled out of court   Trump has never settled a sexual assault case out of court as alleged.

 

Walls of rambling text and rationalization will not change facts 

 

 

Yes, he did, which according to another poster is an admission on guilt. 

 

And yet, Chelsea has every right to criticize a dictator for a stupid comment.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

 

Yes, he did, which according to another poster is an admission on guilt. 

 

And yet, Chelsea has every right to criticize a dictator for a stupid comment.

 

 

No he did not .

 

Your right Chelsea has every right. Getting owned for doing it comes with it 

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41 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

The conclusion of Jones case was it was settled out of court   Trump has never settled a sexual assault case out of court as alleged.

 

Walls of rambling text and rationalization will not change facts 

Yup.

 

7 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

No he did not .

 

Your right Chelsea has every right. Getting owned for doing it comes with it 

Exactly. Leftist thinking:

 

- Chelsea has every right to go after a foreign leader! #Justice #Resist

- What?! He dares return fire? Sexist! Dictator! 

 

[Ivanka never attacks anyone]

- Ivanka is a Trump therefore protest everything her companies sell!

- Attacking Chelsea (who goes after a foreign leader) is like attacking Ivanka (who does not)! Why are Trump supporters such hypocrites! #Justice

 

This is what happens when emotional people try and debate against logic.

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3 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Yup.

 

Exactly. Leftist thinking:

 

- Chelsea has every right to go after a foreign leader! #Justice #Resist

- What?! He dares return fire? Sexist! Dictator! 

 

[Ivanka never attacks anyone]

- Ivanka is a Trump therefore protest everything her companies sell!

- Attacking Chelsea (who goes after a foreign leader) is like attacking Ivanka (who does not)! Why are Trump supporters such hypocrites! #Justice

 

This is what happens when emotional people try and debate against logic.

Maybe it gives them Tourette rapid on set

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it's leftist thinking to not defend or excuse the guy who makes light of his soldiers raping whoever to get their job done, i have no problem with that..

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5 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

it's leftist thinking to not defend or excuse the guy who makes light of his soldiers raping whoever to get their job done, i have no problem with that..

Dont throw rocks at him, if your dad has the same tendecies 

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14 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Dont throw rocks at him, if your dad has the same tendecies 

that's not how morality works. 

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31 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Dont throw rocks at him, if your dad has the same tendecies 

Wasn't there a discussion not long ago about throwing stones in glass houses?

 

One thing you notice with the left is they are pretty bad at practicing what they preach.

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