US declines to endorse Paris Climate agreement [merged threads]

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

8 minutes ago, Boiler said:

It is if you think of it the perfect scam, the climate changes so by definition can never be the right climate, whatever that is. An unlimited and for ever source of funding.

Al Gore made big  bank on carbon offsets while leaving a massive carbon foot print.

Edited June 2, 2017 by Nature Boy Flair

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

5 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Al Gore made big  bank on carbon offsets while leaving a massive carbon foot print.

His house used the most electricity in the state of Tennessee. 

[IAMX 3,055]

8 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Al Gore made big  bank on carbon offsets while leaving a massive carbon foot print.

It's the new capitalism.. (hint for lefties: not capitalism)

 

- See trend in scaremongering and piggybacking on science

- Make company that would profit off of trend

- Market company to specific demographic

- Get them on board with government forcing people to give them money

- Profit

 

if that fails...

 

- Government sees trend in scaremongering and piggybacking on science

- Create marketing plan, focus groups, etc. to see the best successful ways of implementing this 

- Have government tax people so the government gets more of your money

- Profit

 

End result...

 

- Leftist feels good while accomplishing nothing.

[Bugs 455]

1 hour ago, IAMX said:

As someone who cites this 97% figure, it's amusing you supposedly have no idea how numbers and data are manipulated to fit a narrative, all while citing manipulated data. It's not that I don't trust climatologists, as I just said prior, it's clear they don't have a comprehensive grasp on climate, not due to them being untrustworthy, but because of the extreme complexity of climate. Climate isn't merely simple math equations, if it were, it would be clear our grasp of climate would be undeniable, there wouldn't be so many models, and the factual model that fits the scientific method of being right so many times that the instance of being wrong can easily be dismissed as experimental error would have virtually everyone on board akin to the fabricated and oft cited 97%. However, for political purposes, the bar has been lowered dramatically, so dramatically the left rely exclusively on doomsday scenarios, and the idea that "we can't wait and see", the Earth's climate is just going to implode.. any day now, the Earth will become uninhabitable, humans will die off, whatever else fits the scaremongering narrative. As a natural skeptic who got away from the successful religious scaremongering tactics of "if you don't believe in my deity, you will go to hell", to scare people into compliance, the lefts attempts at repeating it and scaring people into "if you don't believe what I tell you and implement my political policies, we'll all die" doesn't have any effect, nor does it sound rational. As usual, it's emotional banter.

 

https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-intermediate.htm

 

Back to my question, which you still have yet to answer:

 

What climate data was manipulated to fit political purposes?  Be specific and provide your source backing this up.

 

 

 

Edited June 3, 2017 by Leon & Mylen

[Jacque67 7,328]

I blame Kimberly Guilfoyle...Trump called her for "advice" at 8 am before the Rose Garden announcement...wife #4 - watchout Hicks!!!

 

pity she doesn't know the difference between admissions and emissions , but hey, fox!!

Edited June 3, 2017 by Jacque67

[Dashinka 24,437]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Al Gore made big  bank on carbon offsets while leaving a massive carbon foot print.

NO!!!!!!!!! Not Al Gore!  Oh the horror!  I would have thought he would be sharing his long haul plane trips with Leonardo.

 

Edited June 3, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[Dashinka 24,437]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Spell check or no spell check. I am screwed either way 

What was your first clue?

 

[Dashinka 24,437]

3 hours ago, cyberfx1024 said:

Then vote to leave the USA, when and if it comes on the ballot here in Commifornia. Because the rest of the country see the results of the stupid laws that come about from the GA and will not repeat those stupid mistakes. 

Wasn't there a Russian behind that whole movement?  Apparently they are hedging their bets and playing both sides.  

[Jacque67 7,328]

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/06/01/withdrawing-paris-climate-agreement-trump-called-fox-news-host-advice/216748

 

only the best for the flat-earth cult!!!

never mind, Melania has the head of security at Tiffany's to keep her warm

xoxo

[Dashinka 24,437]

4 hours ago, Leon & Mylen said:

 

It turned out the vast majority of those scientists who are skeptical were not actually practicing climate scientists, but experts in other fields, and did not publish in peer reviewed abstracts (the vetting process used for surviving error and misinformation), and 90% were funded by right-side think tanks, so it was hard to take most of them seriously, but I tried.  Nobody actually had their own set of data and graphs from their own research that contradicted that which is provided by the other 97%.  The best just pointed to margin of error variabilities in that data already and used that to say what you are saying, that we cannot be sure.

 

That's not to say that some researchers did not actually try to do the testing themselves in order to put out convincing contradictory evidence and data.  They did, but only ended up replicating the data the 97% came up with, and adding to their ever growing body of evidence. The very first chart I posted several pages back was actually from one instance of this.

 

https://front.moveon.org/republicans-trying-to-disprove-global-warming-actually-prove-the-opposite/?rc=fb.fan#.WTHRkYVlCaM

 

 

 

Moveon.org, really?

 

 

[Dashinka 24,437]

4 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

But it proves I care, and it feels good. 

You know that the MDL has thecaring market cornered.  They are working on cornering the hate market now.

 

[Bugs 455]

5 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Moveon.org, really?

 

 

Moveon.org didn't conduct the study.

 

But let's focus on who reported that rather than the actual study shall we?

 

As well as ignore anything else I wrote in the post.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 3, 2017 by Leon & Mylen

[Jacque67 7,328]

4 minutes ago, Leon & Mylen said:

Moveon.org didn't conduct the study.

 

But let's focus on who reported that rather than the actual study shall we?

 

As well as ignore anything else I wrote in the post.

 

 

 

 

 

Plus one for effort. It's a tough crowd in the evenings!!

[Dashinka 24,437]

8 minutes ago, Leon & Mylen said:

Moveon.org didn't conduct the study.

 

But let's focus on who reported that rather than the actual study shall we?

 

As well as ignore anything else I wrote in the post.

 

 

 

 

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/royspencer/2017/05/30/draft-n2333378

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Build that nuclear waste storage facility on the shores of Lake Huron.