Does it matter? No evidence of Trump 'collusion' with Russia as media shift focus

[ready4ONE 5,400]

3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

The interesting thing is that Hillary gave as much bashing material as President Trump during her tenure as Senator, SOS, and presidential candidate, but I don't remember hearing the MDL or their allies in the mainstream media using it much.  Anytime we did hear about it the MDL quickly deflected and would scream fake news.

 

As to the credibility you mention, which anonymous source or piece of evidence makes your point?

 

I believe Hillary took bashing beyond any other candidate in history. Some deserved, much of it not, but I have never been a huge fan of hers. She lost the election, and still won the popular vote despite all of it. 

 

When will you actually discuss Donald Trump? He is after all the so-called president.

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

3 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Lotta Putin lovers here

Seems to be a few of you's around. 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

8 minutes ago, ready4ONE said:

No we need to do a better job protecting ourselves, and preventing harm and interference from others. These types of things are not limited to Russia and the US, nor do they appear likely to go away. Team Trump throwing up 'fake news' and then contradicting themselves and generally acting at every turn to appear having been involved with and supportive of Russian interference just isn't healthy or helpful to anyone.

Of course you have to do better and not let others interfere in your elections but it's best not to seen to be doing it yourselves. 

 

This has been happening long before Trump ever decided to run for President, are people so naive to believe the Russians were the first? 

[IAMX 3,055]

3 minutes ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Seems to be a few of you's around. 

Sometimes you want to go 
Where everybody knows your name, 
and they're always glad you came

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

4 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Seems to be a few of you's around. 

You don't see me apologizing for US behavior as been worse than Russia

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

4 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Of course you have to do better and not let others interfere in your elections but it's best not to seen to be doing it yourselves. 

 

This has been happening long before Trump ever decided to run for President, are people so naive to believe the Russians were the first? 

Are you for protecting US interests or against protecting US Interests?  Because when you apologize for Putin's behavior that puts in in against America Camp for my money.

[IAMX 3,055]

19 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Are you for protecting US interests or against protecting US Interests?  Because when you apologize for Putin's behavior that puts in in against America Camp for my money.

Nah, he's being rational, rather than presume guilt because anonymous sources and no proof.

 

Being that US interests and national security are extremely important, it's more rational to get it right instead of blaming anyone and everyone for whatever you don't like.

 

You'll notice that the MSM has backed down from Putin hacking/meddling/whatever regarding the election, as they realize there was no proof for it they can provide. It's obvious they knew this, the intent was clearly to try and undermine Trump's presidency. For the populace that actually trusts MSM, I'd say mission accomplished. 

 

Regarding your theories, it's just nonsense.

[smilesammich 10,727]

47 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Because when you apologize for Putin's behavior that puts in in against America Camp for my money.

imo, donald supporters (and donald the brand) are against america. they are only concerned with their america, and themselves. everyone else is just a liberal and scum. the media is scum. the federal government used to be scum until dt showed up and made all the liberals cry. i bet if there was a survey for trump supporters where they were asked if given the option to deport all liberals - 90 percent of them would say 'deport? lets just execute them publicly - they encourage and support terror disguised as 'diversity', bet.

 

the best thing is, if you read the donald on reddit, you will never ever be taken by surprise by a single trump supporter post. the whole 'the msm has slowed their roll on russia' is, of course, not at all true because the investigations are just getting started but this is exactly what trump supporters are being told. and they only trust donald friendly sources, the echo chamber they willingly lock themselves in is what will ultimately swallow them whole. it baffles me how many trumps supporters totally think that there's no investigation and nothing big is happening here but the regular leftists cray cray. 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

25 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

imo, donald supporters (and donald the brand) are against america. they are only concerned with their america, and themselves. everyone else is just a liberal and scum. the media is scum. the federal government used to be scum until dt showed up and made all the liberals cry. i bet if there was a survey for trump supporters where they were asked if given the option to deport all liberals - 90 percent of them would say 'deport? lets just execute them publicly - they encourage and support terror disguised as 'diversity', bet.

 

the best thing is, if you read the donald on reddit, you will never ever be taken by surprise by a single trump supporter post. the whole 'the msm has slowed their roll on russia' is, of course, not at all true because the investigations are just getting started but this is exactly what trump supporters are being told. and they only trust donald friendly sources, the echo chamber they willingly lock themselves in is what will ultimately swallow them whole. it baffles me how many trumps supporters totally think that there's no investigation and nothing big is happening here but the regular leftists cray cray. 

I think the CEHEST Donald luvers are acutally just a bot

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

6 minutes ago, ccneat said:

I think the CEHEST Donald luvers are acutally just a bot

That is [if true] go to

1. Insane 

 

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

43 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

imo, donald supporters (and donald the brand) are against america. they are only concerned with their america, and themselves. everyone else is just a liberal and scum. the media is scum. the federal government used to be scum until dt showed up and made all the liberals cry. i bet if there was a survey for trump supporters where they were asked if given the option to deport all liberals - 90 percent of them would say 'deport? lets just execute them publicly - they encourage and support terror disguised as 'diversity', bet.

 

the best thing is, if you read the donald on reddit, you will never ever be taken by surprise by a single trump supporter post. the whole 'the msm has slowed their roll on russia' is, of course, not at all true because the investigations are just getting started but this is exactly what trump supporters are being told. and they only trust donald friendly sources, the echo chamber they willingly lock themselves in is what will ultimately swallow them whole. it baffles me how many trumps supporters totally think that there's no investigation and nothing big is happening here but the regular leftists cray cray. 

 

 

That's Radical Trump-supported Terrorism. It acts in the same manner as any other terrorism. Of course, they are not yet rounding up and killing people, although some of the alt-right long for the pre Civil Rights-era days, where that was a possibility,  and often went unpunished. 

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2017 by CaliCat

[Dashinka 24,505]

6 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

I believe Hillary took bashing beyond any other candidate in history. Some deserved, much of it not, but I have never been a huge fan of hers. She lost the election, and still won the popular vote despite all of it. 

 

When will you actually discuss Donald Trump? He is after all the so-called president.

When will you stop bashing and name calling?  

[Dashinka 24,505]

1 hour ago, ccneat said:

Are you for protecting US interests or against protecting US Interests?  Because when you apologize for Putin's behavior that puts in in against America Camp for my money.

And your proof is?

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

3 hours ago, ccneat said:

Are you for protecting US interests or against protecting US Interests?  Because when you apologize for Putin's behavior that puts in in against America Camp for my money.

By reading my post you think I am against US interest and pro Putin. Acknowledging that the US also interferes with foreign elections does not make one anti US. The only reason it's much of an issue at all is the wrong candidate won the election and it made the media and all the big mouths in Hollywood look bad. 

 

So those that were against the Muslim travel ban and spoke out were anti US? Of course not because people made a way to spin it so you all looked like patriots. 

 

 

[IAMX 3,055]

2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

And your proof is?

Proof = "why do you hate America so much"