Does it matter? No evidence of Trump 'collusion' with Russia as media shift focus

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/does-it-matter-no-evidence-trump-collusion-with-russia-as-media-shift-focus.html

[Póg mo 1,749]

All the inquiries into Hillary Clinton failed to locate any evidence, but that never stopped that particular witch hunt. 

[IAMX 3,055]

9 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

All the inquiries into Hillary Clinton failed to locate any evidence, but that never stopped that particular witch hunt. 

Likely because most of the evidence was destroyed upon receiving a subpoena. Which itself is a crime. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

likely destroyed you say..

[LionessDeon 2,060]

The above posted article is a meaningless opinion based on a quote of someone's observation.   The real FBI investigation has not concluded as yet.  

Edited May 24, 2017 by LionessDeon

[Dashinka 24,505]

14 minutes ago, LionessDeon said:

The above posted article is a meaningless opinion based on a quote of someone's observation.   The real FBI investigation has not concluded as yet.  

The big question is will it ever end.  Closing in on a year already and still nothing.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

19 minutes ago, LionessDeon said:

The above posted article is a meaningless opinion based on a quote of someone's observation.   The real FBI investigation has not concluded as yet.  

Which above article. There is so much conjecture posturing and biased opinion, you need to narrow it down 

[Póg mo 1,749]

2 hours ago, IAMX said:

Likely because most of the evidence was destroyed upon receiving a subpoena. Which itself is a crime. 

Hillary guilty till proven otherwise, but Trump how dare anyone suggest he is not being 100 % truthful. It's not like he hasn't been completely open about his tax returns or anything.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Which above article. There is so much conjecture posturing and biased opinion, you need to narrow it down 

Here is less conjecture and not Anon sources...maybe fake news, cant tell. 

 

Fox News Poll: Trump approval down, voters support special counsel on Russia

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/fox-news-poll-trump-approval-down-voters-support-special-counsel-on-russia.html

 

merican voters disagree with President Trump’s firing of FBI Director James Comey, think the dismissal was for self-serving reasons, and approve of a special counsel being appointed to investigate Russian government efforts to influence the election and the Trump campaign.  In addition, a majority opposes the Republican plan to replace Obamacare. 

That’s according to a new Fox News Poll of registered voters nationwide.

The last month took a toll on the president’s ratings.  The poll finds 40 percent of voters approve of the job Trump is doing, down from 45 percent last month.  Disapproval is up 5 points to 53 percent.  

Some of the drop in approval comes from Republicans, as just 81 percent approve of the president.  GOP approval had been between 84-87 percent during Trump’s first three months in office.  Plus, his approval among whites without a college degree went from 62 percent last month to 53 percent now.  Working-class whites were a key voting bloc for him in the election (66 percent backed Trump according to the Fox News Exit Poll).

 

[ready4ONE 5,400]

2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

The big question is will it ever end.  Closing in on a year already and still nothing.

Perhaps it would be easier to just ask the Kremlin or find a good hacker to confirm their was no collusion?

 

Honestly, as much as I bash Trump, he is after all a rich giver of material with which to do so, I am hopeful deliberate and active collusion turns out to be false. I don't even think that is the most likely conclusion. But it's certainly possible, and definitely certain Donald Trump is not handling this issue in a way that is making it better. 

 

But the separate issue is the active interfering with our election process which appears highly credible. Again though, Donald Trump digs that hole deeper instead of acting responsibly. If proven true that will be another slap in the face for the loser if the popular vote but it would not overturn the election results.

Edited May 25, 2017 by ready4ONE

[IAMX 3,055]

29 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

Hillary guilty till proven otherwise, but Trump how dare anyone suggest he is not being 100 % truthful. It's not like he hasn't been completely open about his tax returns or anything.

There is no debate if Hillary destroyed her server upon having it subpoena'd. The guy who managed her server was also seen on Reddit asking how to bleach the drives. You'd be the first person to contest her guilt if that's what you're doing.

 

About Trump I have no idea what you're talking about, surely you can make a little more sense by elaborating.

[Dashinka 24,505]

10 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

Perhaps it would be easier to just ask the Kremlin or find a good hacker to confirm their was no collusion?

 

Honestly, as much as I bash Trump, he is after all a rich giver of material with which to do so, I am hopeful deliberate and active collusion turns out to be false. I don't even think that is the most likely conclusion. But it's certainly possible, and definitely certain Donald Trump is not handling this issue in a way that is making it better. 

 

But the separate issue is the active interfering with our election process which appears highly credible. Again though, Donald Trump digs that hole deeper instead of acting responsibly. If proven true that will be another slap in the face for the loser if the popular vote but it would not overturn the election results.

The interesting thing is that Hillary gave as much bashing material as President Trump during her tenure as Senator, SOS, and presidential candidate, but I don't remember hearing the MDL or their allies in the mainstream media using it much.  Anytime we did hear about it the MDL quickly deflected and would scream fake news.

 

As to the credibility you mention, which anonymous source or piece of evidence makes your point?

 

Edited May 25, 2017 by Bill & Katya

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

11 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

But the separate issue is the active interfering with our election process which appears highly credible. 

If Russia is guilty then the US needs put it's own hands up for the same offence. Both governments have been doing it around the world for years and no one said anything. 

[ready4ONE 5,400]

3 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

If Russia is guilty then the US needs put it's own hands up for the same offence. Both governments have been doing it around the world for years and no one said anything. 

No we need to do a better job protecting ourselves, and preventing harm and interference from others. These types of things are not limited to Russia and the US, nor do they appear likely to go away. Team Trump throwing up 'fake news' and then contradicting themselves and generally acting at every turn to appear having been involved with and supportive of Russian interference just isn't healthy or helpful to anyone.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

3 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

If Russia is guilty then the US needs put it's own hands up for the same offence. Both governments have been doing it around the world for years and no one said anything. 

Lotta Putin lovers here