If lost LPR status, my 1 year old also loses his LPR status?

[Parsoram 2]

Hi all,

 

I currently live in U.S. for about 2 weeks and cannot find any job that suits me and/or pays as much as I would earn at my home country to keep the family living standards at a level we get used to. My question is, let's say me and my wife decided to go back to our home country and decided to live there and make visits every 6 months. While doing so, if we loose our LPR status and green card, will our child, 1 year old boy, will loose his status also? I am asking this because we make decisions for him since he cannot take part in any decisions. Thank you.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

Your plan is not a good one.

 

Google "maintaining legal permanent residency USCIS."

 

Visits to the US every 6 months does not satisfy the requirement to live in the US.  You and your son will be at risk for losing your green card status.  Parents can make the decisions to move abroad with their children.  The ability for parents to make legal decisions for their children includes moving abroad and abandoning a green card.

[Ischnura 285]

I'd imagine if you're out of the country long enough to lose your LPR status that your Son would be with you and lose his too.

 

What's your profession? Most of the time it takes much longer than 2 weeks to secure a job over here. You might find that you need to settle for a lower, lesser paying position for a while and work your way back up. Relocating cities or even states is sometimes a must if you can't find what you're looking for where you are. 

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

I've researched this before. Even minors need to maintain status. (The corollary of your argument, that you make decisions for him, also holds true in terms of him getting the green card in the first place...if your decisions mean he gets one, it also means your decisions can mean he loses it).

 

Many people take a step back when they first immigrate. If your goal is to have exactly the same standards of living, especially as a professional in a third world country (I come from the same background so don't take it as an offense), unless you come over with a lot of assets that's just not going to happen. You take a step back and work your way up again, and presumably you make this short term sacrifice so your kids can have a better long term  future, not so you can immediately have a big house like back home or whatever. 

 

By the way, the Bay Area is about the worst place to move to try maintain living standards given the cost of housing and hired help here!! So if that is really a big issue for you, perhaps you should look at cheaper states.

 

Edited May 24, 2017 by SusieQQQ

[Jojo92122 1,924]

Do a search on VJ.

 

You will find plenty of cases of people who parents moved them abroad when they were minors and years later, they come on here as adults looking to come back on their green cards.  Not possible.  Parents can move children abroad and abandon green cards.  All green card holders are required to live in the US.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

Most people who immigrate to the US from non-English countries must take a step back.  There are doctors and lawyers working in stores, etc.  The language barrier is one.  Education.  Professional accreditation.  Contacts.  Most people who move to the US for the benefits it offers are willing to take a temporary step back to take advantage of those benefits.  

 

Two weeks is hardly enough time in the US to adjust.  Sometimes, you have to take a job that doesn't suit you if your dream is for a better future for your child as a US permanent resident or future US citizen.  Sometimes, your living standards will have to go down so your child can get the benefits of being a green card holder.  

 

 

[Crazy Cat 41,898]

7 minutes ago, Jojo92122 said:

 All green card holders are required to live in the US.

and Green Card holders are required to live in the US......not just visit.

[Boiler 45,544]

Well getting a job in 2 weeks would be unusual assuming we are talking about a professional one.

 

There seems some more latitude for children, say if the child was 15 and went back to finish school then I have seen that get by.

 

Big difference between being a LPR and an occasional visitor.

[Parsoram 2]

Thanks for the answers guys,

 

To answer to a few; I am an IT guy of 15 years of experience in American companies but in their European or middle eastern branches/HQ's. I left my job that pays really good, and had really good benefits. They even offered me to move to U.K. Headquarters by the end of summer '17. I rejected all and start applying for jobs 3 months before I come to U.S. You will say that it is very easy to find jobs in IT but I am way over being deep technical like a programmer, because I worked as a people/team manager/director for my last 5 years. Even if I accept to lower down my expectations, they will not accept me because of the gap I have from young programmers (I am 36 by the way, but when IT is the concern, programmers are waay younger than me). People do interview me and they say everything seems just perfect but keep asking me if I have U.S. experience which I say 'I have worked for American companies, but not in the U.S. soil' which mostly gets rejection after all.  People also get temporary contracted jobs for 3-6-9-12 months which does not fit me because, even if the payment is ok, if I cannot find another job to continue after the period ends what will my family eat, do , how will I pay the bills? 

 

Plus to that, I forgot to update my profile here but I live in Houston Texas right now. 

 

Thanks for the answers friends.. Let's see what are we going to do.

 

-K

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

I'm sorry to hear it's been so difficult. However, I have to say as someone living in the Bay Area, that I know a lot of managers in the IT space who have either immigrated or here on H1 or O1 and have found senior jobs without US experience. I have no idea whether you are looking at IT-centric companies or at IT departments within other types of firms, but certainly you should start broadening your horizons. 

 

i understand what you say about starting to look before you came over but, it's quite rare to get hired before arriving in the US so to my mind it is still only a couple of weeks of "real" job search. Again I'd suggest at least browsing jobs online in other areas. And don't forget that the US is home to a vast pool of talent, so job hunting is competitive  - almost certainly more so than where you came from - and so does require more perseverance. Be sure to highlight the fact that you are a permanent resident prominently on your resume as well so that companies know immediately you have the right to work, emphasize that you worked for US headquartered companies, and make sure your resume is "US style" too and that you have tailored each submission for the job you're applying to - so that you don't get auto filtered out before a human has seen it. 

 

Also, if you do get offered a temporary contract, look on it as a way to get proper US experience on your resume.

 

Good luck.

Edited May 24, 2017 by SusieQQQ

[Jojo92122 1,924]

You need to do what you consider best for your family.  No judgment.

 

We only want to tell you what may happen to your green card status by moving out of the US.  Adjusting to the US is hard and can take many years.  You will have to decide if keeping the green cards and all the benefits that comes with them is worth staying in the US.  If you prefer to do visits and move to Turkey, that is up to you.  You now know the potential consequences.  

 

Best of luck.

[Jojo92122 1,924]

1 minute ago, SusieQQQ said:

I'm sorry to hear it's been so difficult. However, I have to say as someone living in the Bay Area, that I know a lot of managers in the IT space who have either immigrated or here on H1 or O1 and have found senior jobs without US experience. I have no idea whether you are looking at IT-centric companies or at IT departments within other types of firms, but certainly you should start broadening your horizons. 

 

i understand what you say about starting to look before you came over but, it's quite rare to get hired before arriving in the US so to my mind it is still only a couple of weeks of "real" job search. Again I'd suggest at least browsing jobs online in other areas. And don't forget that the US is home to a vast pool of talent, so job hunting is competitive  - almost certainly more so than where you came from - and so does require more perseverance. Be sure to highlight the fact that you are a permanent resident prominently on your resume as well so that companies know immediately you have the right to work, emphasize that you worked for US headquartered companies, and make sure your resume is "US style" too and that you have tailored each submission for the job you're applying to - so that you don't get auto filtered out before a human has seen it.

 

Good luck.

Excellent post.  

[Boiler 45,544]

I do not work in IT but there is a big IT sector in Colorado and I know many people who do.

 

Networking seems to be the way to go and you seem to have the potential for good contacts.

 

You also have the advantage of looking anywhere in the US, must admit I look on all jobs as temporary some are more obviously so.

[EmilyW 1,441]

I took a job two levels below the one I had in Australia and one that paid nearly 50% less than what I was paid in Australia.  I did that because I knew I had to get American experience.  I also figured the drop would be a short term one because I'm good at my job: I gambled on my organization recognizing I could do more.  And they did.  Within six months I was promoted.

Not meaning to be blunt, but drop the pride and ego.  It won't work here.  However big you were in your country, you're in the US now.  I was a big fish in a little pond.  It reversed when I got here.  It hurt but it is what it is.  Prove to the Americans how good you are.  Don't tell them and expect them to believe you.  If you're as good as you think you are, you'll prevail in time.

 

And your plan of visiting every six months won't work.  You will get hauled in front of an immigration judge at some stage and, if you haven't maintained sufficient ties (residence, bank accounts, filing taxes) you'll lose the green card.

[sumranbi 12]

On 5/24/2017 at 1:19 PM, Parsoram said:

Thanks for the answers guys,

 

To answer to a few; I am an IT guy of 15 years of experience in American companies but in their European or middle eastern branches/HQ's. I left my job that pays really good, and had really good benefits. They even offered me to move to U.K. Headquarters by the end of summer '17. I rejected all and start applying for jobs 3 months before I come to U.S. You will say that it is very easy to find jobs in IT but I am way over being deep technical like a programmer, because I worked as a people/team manager/director for my last 5 years. Even if I accept to lower down my expectations, they will not accept me because of the gap I have from young programmers (I am 36 by the way, but when IT is the concern, programmers are waay younger than me). People do interview me and they say everything seems just perfect but keep asking me if I have U.S. experience which I say 'I have worked for American companies, but not in the U.S. soil' which mostly gets rejection after all.  People also get temporary contracted jobs for 3-6-9-12 months which does not fit me because, even if the payment is ok, if I cannot find another job to continue after the period ends what will my family eat, do , how will I pay the bills? 

 

Plus to that, I forgot to update my profile here but I live in Houston Texas right now. 

 

Thanks for the answers friends.. Let's see what are we going to do.

 

-K

I work for UnitedHealth Group in MN and they are always looking for IT people. You could apply and see what happens. Also, you could get a 2 year re-entry if you really want to leave. This way you have 2 years to decide if you really want to abandon the application.