Refused on ceac

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2 hours ago, Dark Matter said:

I'm from Pakistan and I can tell the OP that your case is a big red flag for the US embassy, because inter-racial and inter-religious marriages are not a norm in Pakistan, especially in a situation like yours, i.e., you didn't know your wife for a long time before marrying her and you two haven't spent a lot of time together. Men marrying much older women (unless it's a family arrangement or property involved or something) is also rare. So, I am sorry to say, but I doubt your case will be processed any time soon. They might deliberately prolong it to see whether you stay married or not.

 

I guess the things that you must do in order to prove that you are not committing visa fraud and the marriage is only for a Green Card (I'm not saying it is, that's what the embassy seems to think), are:

 

- Find work. You being unemployed and dependent on your wife weakens your case.

- Ask your wife to visit you and spend time with your family in Pakistan as many times as she can. It is very important that she spend time with your family, not in other countries but in your hometown.

- If possible, have a marriage ceremony in your city/village with your family and relatives present.

- Get to know small things about each other, which they will ask you in the interview. (My husband and I prepared questionnaires for each other).

 

Thing is, for you, it is an uphill task to prove to the embassy that your case is genuine so no effort that you and your wife make to help your case is a big effort.

I know your right but my wife don't understand I told her to visit me in pakistan but she so scared to visit me I don't know why I told her but she don't listen to me I am so worried to death all the time and I have family members in qatar too and my two elder brothers living in qatar and my uncle and his wife living there and me and my wife don't care about our difference embassy have to deal with it if they cant accept that I don't know why they put our case in 9 months for administrative processing and then they returned to uscis its not fair to us they think we will give up but they are totally wrong lol 

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2 hours ago, Dark Matter said:

I'm from Pakistan and I can tell the OP that your case is a big red flag for the US embassy, because inter-racial and inter-religious marriages are not a norm in Pakistan, especially in a situation like yours, i.e., you didn't know your wife for a long time before marrying her and you two haven't spent a lot of time together. Men marrying much older women (unless it's a family arrangement or property involved or something) is also rare. So, I am sorry to say, but I doubt your case will be processed any time soon. They might deliberately prolong it to see whether you stay married or not.

 

I guess the things that you must do in order to prove that you are not committing visa fraud and the marriage is only for a Green Card (I'm not saying it is, that's what the embassy seems to think), are:

 

- Find work. You being unemployed and dependent on your wife weakens your case.

- Ask your wife to visit you and spend time with your family in Pakistan as many times as she can. It is very important that she spend time with your family, not in other countries but in your hometown.

- If possible, have a marriage ceremony in your city/village with your family and relatives present.

- Get to know small things about each other, which they will ask you in the interview. (My husband and I prepared questionnaires for each other).

 

Thing is, for you, it is an uphill task to prove to the embassy that your case is genuine so no effort that you and your wife make to help your case is a big effort.

I know your right but my wife don't understand I told her to visit me in pakistan but she so scared to visit me I don't know why I told her but she don't listen to me I am so worried to death all the time and I have family members in qatar too and my two elder brothers living in qatar and my uncle and his wife living there and me and my wife don't care about our difference embassy have to deal with it if they cant accept that I don't know why they put our case in 9 months for administrative processing and then they returned to uscis its not fair to us they think we will give up but they are totally wrong lol me and my wife will fight for our rights until our last breath and she only coming to qatar for one month because she bought car and house on installments so she cant visit that much visit I can understand her what she is doing that's on my future too and when I get there I will help her with everything if she don't want to come to pakistan it's her choice you know we can't force to loves one and I will never force her to come to pakistan if she scared so I can understand her fear she wish to visit pakistan but she scared too much we are gathering evidence I mail her wedding Anniversary gift and letters and card on 19 February 2018 was our 3rd Anniversary we email daily to eachother and we talk on the phone too if she can't visit me that much I can understand her because she have to pay her bills now she is saving money in April and we have plan to visit in July or August to qatar so she will meet my mom and my brothers and other relatives so I think we will have enough evidence to show them we have real love and before interview teach me so much and I never repeat my mistake in coming interview my bag is full of evidence right now and more saving evidence my wife is writing me letter right now and she will mail to me today we have true love so we will show them we are real 

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8 hours ago, Sparrow said:

I know your right but my wife don't understand I told her to visit me in pakistan but she so scared to visit me I don't know why I told her but she don't listen to me I am so worried to death all the time and I have family members in qatar too and my two elder brothers living in qatar and my uncle and his wife living there and me and my wife don't care about our difference embassy have to deal with it if they cant accept that I don't know why they put our case in 9 months for administrative processing and then they returned to uscis its not fair to us they think we will give up but they are totally wrong lol me and my wife will fight for our rights until our last breath and she only coming to qatar for one month because she bought car and house on installments so she cant visit that much visit I can understand her what she is doing that's on my future too and when I get there I will help her with everything if she don't want to come to pakistan it's her choice you know we can't force to loves one and I will never force her to come to pakistan if she scared so I can understand her fear she wish to visit pakistan but she scared too much we are gathering evidence I mail her wedding Anniversary gift and letters and card on 19 February 2018 was our 3rd Anniversary we email daily to eachother and we talk on the phone too if she can't visit me that much I can understand her because she have to pay her bills now she is saving money in April and we have plan to visit in July or August to qatar so she will meet my mom and my brothers and other relatives so I think we will have enough evidence to show them we have real love and before interview teach me so much and I never repeat my mistake in coming interview my bag is full of evidence right now and more saving evidence my wife is writing me letter right now and she will mail to me today we have true love so we will show them we are real 

You really need to organize your ideas before writing, because if you explain yourself during the interview like you do in here, you will make everything very confusing.

 

You keep thinking that you have the right to receive a visa, and you are wrong. Your wife has the right to file a petition for you, and even when it was approved, the US. embassy is not forced to approve it.

Inmigration is not a right, is a privilege.

 

The other thing you need to keep in mind, is that the Consular officers are not there to determine if your love is real or not, they are simply trying to protect their country and their citizens by digging very well into every case. Not all of them are efficient (example: you still see a lot of people succeeding in visa fraud), but it's what they try. Once you understand that, you will be able to think about your case from outside, allowing you to fix some things.

 

I second the previous post's, where you were advised to find a way to spend more time with your wife. Someone posted before in this topic how she was making over 7 trips to see her husband, and she was still denied, keep that in mind before thinking that one more trip would make any difference. I'll advise for you to get a job, like @Dark Matter said, you depending on your wife's weakens your case, but also stop you from getting founds to pay for more trips to see your wife.

[Michael2017 368]

On 2/21/2018 at 6:46 PM, Sparrow said:

I know your right but my wife don't understand I told her to visit me in pakistan but she so scared to visit me I don't know why I told her but she don't listen to me I am so worried to death all the time and I have family members in qatar too and my two elder brothers living in qatar and my uncle and his wife living there and me and my wife don't care about our difference embassy have to deal with it if they cant accept that I don't know why they put our case in 9 months for administrative processing and then they returned to uscis its not fair to us they think we will give up but they are totally wrong lol me and my wife will fight for our rights until our last breath and she only coming to qatar for one month because she bought car and house on installments so she cant visit that much visit I can understand her what she is doing that's on my future too and when I get there I will help her with everything if she don't want to come to pakistan it's her choice you know we can't force to loves one and I will never force her to come to pakistan if she scared so I can understand her fear she wish to visit pakistan but she scared too much we are gathering evidence I mail her wedding Anniversary gift and letters and card on 19 February 2018 was our 3rd Anniversary we email daily to eachother and we talk on the phone too if she can't visit me that much I can understand her because she have to pay her bills now she is saving money in April and we have plan to visit in July or August to qatar so she will meet my mom and my brothers and other relatives so I think we will have enough evidence to show them we have real love and before interview teach me so much and I never repeat my mistake in coming interview my bag is full of evidence right now and more saving evidence my wife is writing me letter right now and she will mail to me today we have true love so we will show them we are real 

To be very honest, this will be a very long fight, and by any means, your chances are slim.

Your story is just too much out of the norm that it will be hard to get this going.

I think you need to consider moving to a 3. country with your wife as plan B.

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16 hours ago, Michael2017 said:

To be very honest, this will be a very long fight, and by any means, your chances are slim.

Your story is just too much out of the norm that it will be hard to get this going.

I think you need to consider moving to a 3. country with your wife as plan B.

Unfortunately my wife wants to stay in her own country and she don't want to go to another country she just bought car on installments and also bought house on installments I am so stressed right now 

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12 minutes ago, Sparrow said:

Unfortunately my wife wants to stay in her own country and she don't want to go to another country she just bought car on installments and also bought house on installments I am so stressed right now 

I am sorry for you, but you must face reality. There is a big chance this will not work out for you.

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29 minutes ago, Michael2017 said:

I am sorry for you, but you must face reality. There is a big chance this will not work out for you.

I don't understand what I have to do I am worrying and stress out

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

2 hours ago, Sparrow said:

I don't understand what I have to do I am worrying and stress out

Once your wife has visited and spend some time with you and met at least part of your family she will have fresh ongoing evidence for the NOID letter and can address all points in it also.

There is nothing else you can do now so stop stressing. Focus on the visit. I have seen far worse cases being reaffirmed. 

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3 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Once your wife has visited and spend some time with you and met at least part of your family she will have fresh ongoing evidence for the NOID letter and can address all points in it also.

There is nothing else you can do now so stop stressing. Focus on the visit. I have seen far worse cases being reaffirmed. 

It is ok for her to come to qatar to meet with my mom and my brothers there she is coming in July or August me and my mom is going to qatar and my two elder brothers already living in qatar do you think that help us?

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

6 hours ago, Sparrow said:

It is ok for her to come to qatar to meet with my mom and my brothers there she is coming in July or August me and my mom is going to qatar and my two elder brothers already living in qatar do you think that help us?

Pakistan would be better but if she refuses to go there then Qatar is the chance you have to take. If it's possible for your father to go there with your mother even better.

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4 hours ago, Ebunoluwa said:

Pakistan would be better but if she refuses to go there then Qatar is the chance you have to take. If it's possible for your father to go there with your mother even better.

Depends on where in Pakistan he lives.  My husband  was criticized for bringing me to Quetta..that it was endangering my life.  They also pleaded with me to never go back there while I'm waiting for my case to be complete.  I however am very happy that I went.   I loved being with my husbands family and wish I can go back but since the scrutiny we are fearful so we've vacationed elsewhere during our wait for him to come home.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

14 hours ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

Depends on where in Pakistan he lives.  My husband  was criticized for bringing me to Quetta..that it was endangering my life.  They also pleaded with me to never go back there while I'm waiting for my case to be complete.  I however am very happy that I went.   I loved being with my husbands family and wish I can go back but since the scrutiny we are fearful so we've vacationed elsewhere during our wait for him to come home.

Others have been chastised because they did not go to Pakistan. Of course it depends on the location there but generally speaking
they give beneficiaries a hard time when their fiances/wives have never visited their home country. It depends also on each CO's perspective.

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On 25/02/2018 at 7:04 AM, Ebunoluwa said:

Pakistan would be better but if she refuses to go there then Qatar is the chance you have to take. If it's possible for your father to go there with your mother even better.

My father is no more with us.I lost him in 2013 my wife said she love me from her heart but she scared to come to pakistan I told her that many people telling me you need to come to pakistan but she scared so I am waiting for next trip in qatar 

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21 hours ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

Depends on where in Pakistan he lives.  My husband  was criticized for bringing me to Quetta..that it was endangering my life.  They also pleaded with me to never go back there while I'm waiting for my case to be complete.  I however am very happy that I went.   I loved being with my husbands family and wish I can go back but since the scrutiny we are fearful so we've vacationed elsewhere during our wait for him to come home.

I am from Kohat and its very safe here very peaceful people Your very brave Quetta is most dangerous place in pakistan I can't believe you came there and stay did they give your husband visa?

Edited February 26, 2018 by Sparrow

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Hey friends how are you all I hope everyone is good.I am very disappointed right now.first Us embassy islamabad put our case for 9 months and then return to uscis for recommendations for cancellation or revocation petition to uscis and after uscis recieved our case they told us to wait 180 days to get decision from them.I am really sad that we are living in cruel world.if we married if we are happy in our marriage why they judge us.if in pakistan man 35 age get marry with 15 year old girl that's fine no one will judge them because it's tradition.i don't know why people don't understand that in love no one care about ages race skin colour it's just feelings that came from heart what a cruel world where we are living in.my whole family know about my wife we are happy in our marriage i am really sad today

Edited April 24, 2018 by Sparrow