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1 hour ago, ccneat said:

One is a fact documented in a published US intelligence document, The other a rant. withoutb a shred of evidence promoted by Hannitys need for ratings. Hannity Is not a journalist.   So no comparison 

You do know that US (and all foreign) Intelligence officials are highly trained liars right?  But like I said, both are plausible explanations along with many others I or anyone else can think of.  Heck the US intelligence agencies could have done the hacking themselves with tools they got from foreign sources.  You have to remember the material released was more embarrassing to Hillary than anything else (no real bombshells, even the primary story where Bernie was shafted, as who didn't see that coming :rolleyes:).  I am sure there are actors in the CIA or NSA that weren't all that happy with how Hillary handled Benghazi.  Like I said, all plausible possibilities and all (including the Russian narrative) are worthy of the tin foil hat realm.

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10 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

You do know that US (and all foreign) Intelligence officials are highly trained liars right?  But like I said, both are plausible explanations along with many others I or anyone else can think of.  Heck the US intelligence agencies could have done the hacking themselves with tools they got from foreign sources.  You have to remember the material released was more embarrassing to Hillary than anything else (no real bombshells, even the primary story where Bernie was shafted, as who didn't see that coming :rolleyes:).  I am sure there are actors in the CIA or NSA that weren't all that happy with how Hillary handled Benghazi.  Like I said, all plausible possibilities and all (including the Russian narrative) are worthy of the tin foil hat realm.

So you choose to believe Kim dotcom and Hannity and I choose to believe us intelligence analysis. I do know one thing, those meatheads are not putting their lives on the line to protect this country.

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Just now, ccneat said:

So you choose to believe Kim dotcom and Hannity and I choose to believe us intelligence analysis. I did know one thing, those meatheads are not putting their lives on the line to protect this country.

Yes, and they are also can be very vindictive when the members of their 'family' are injured or killed for political reasons.  I am not saying KDC is credible, just pointing out that their are many many plausible explanations and I like to be open minded.  I realize that it is hard to do that when there is a need to follow the narrative of the MDL/DNC.

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3 hours ago, ccneat said:

One is a fact documented in a published US intelligence document, The other a rant. withoutb a shred of evidence promoted by Hannitys need for ratings. Hannity Is not a journalist.   So no comparison 

Yet it's almost as ludicrous as unnamed sources 

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28 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Yet it's almost as ludicrous as unnamed sources 

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2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Yet it's almost as ludicrous as unnamed sources 

The people working in the intelligence community are working to protect us.They keep our folks in uniform safe and help make them effective. I am sure you can find examples of dodgy characters and spotted histories but I would not make light of a police officer protecting my family, why would I denigrate the the intelligence community that does the same?

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4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yes, and they are also can be very vindictive when the members of their 'family' are injured or killed for political reasons.  I am not saying KDC is credible, just pointing out that their are many many plausible explanations and I like to be open minded.  I realize that it is hard to do that when there is a need to follow the narrative of the MDL/DNC.

Your mind is shut regarding Russia. Obviously, and often repeated. If you are saying KDC is giving a plausible explanation then you are also saying he is credible. Gotta say no on both assertions.

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2 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

Your mind is shut regarding Russia. Obviously, and often repeated. If you are saying KDC is giving a plausible explanation then you are also saying he is credible. Gotta say no on both assertions.

Did I say Russia, or any other state actor couldn't have done this?  I was pointing out the number of different scenarios that are plausible some credible and some not so much.  Just because a bunch of anonymous sources with an agenda say one thing does not make it anymore credible.  They could be creating as much doubt as possible to cover something else.  The investigations so far have focused on the Russians, and apparently nothing else (at least as the political media tells us), and if another hypothesis is brought forward it is instantly shot down by that same media as ludicrous with little proof or logic.  There are many logical/plausible explanations for the information getting to Wikileaks, and I am open minded, the MDL, not so much.

 

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Did I say Russia, or any other state actor couldn't have done this?  I was pointing out the number of different scenarios that are plausible some credible and some not so much.  Just because a bunch of anonymous sources with an agenda say one thing does not make it anymore credible.  They could be creating as much doubt as possible to cover something else.  The investigations so far have focused on the Russians, and apparently nothing else (at least as the political media tells us), and if another hypothesis is brought forward it is instantly shot down by that same media as ludicrous with little proof or logic.  There are many logical/plausible explanations for the information getting to Wikileaks, and I am open minded, the MDL, not so much.

 

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Nothing that Kim dotcom says is credible.  Open minded and gullible are two distinct things.  

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2 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Nothing that Kim dotcom says is credible.  Open minded and gullible are two distinct things.  

So anonymous sources with agendas are more credible?  Seems a bit gullible to me.

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54 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So anonymous sources with agendas are more credible?  Seems a bit gullible to me.

No one said that anonymous sources through the media is the only reason to believe the Russians have and will again attack our election processes.  

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14 minutes ago, ccneat said:

 

No one said that anonymous sources through the media is the only reason to believe the Russians have and will again attack our election processes.  

As asked many times, and through the almost a year investigation, I have not seen anything other than supposition, so where is the hard evidence?  If Comey thought there was some form of collusion he should have mentioned it along with his statements regarding Hillary's emails being found on the Carlos Danger laptop.  Instead, once Hillary lost, the whole Russian narrative took off, and the anonymous sources have just added fuel to keep it going.

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5 minutes ago, Jacque67 said:

Fox News has retracted the story as it was not "initially subjected to the high degree of editorial scrutiny we require for all our reporting" - lol. Meanwhile crackpot Hannity continues tweeting about it!!!!

Rumor has it that the real journalists on the job @ Fox were ready to down-tool over the "lack of initial subjection to the high degree of editorial scrutiny" 

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6 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Rumor has it that the real journalists on the job @ Fox were ready to down-tool over the "lack of initial subjection to the high degree of editorial scrutiny" 

Fox News in third place for first time in 17 years.. Get out the tin foil. Seriously , Hannity is due for an intervention ...

 

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