Trump: No Politician in history has been treated WORSE

[Dashinka 24,499]

5 minutes ago, Transborderwife said:

Yeah I didn't get the lack of concession speech.  To be honest I think Trump may have done the same or automatically asked for a recount

He may have, that is hard to tell.  It certainly was more of a surprise to the DNC and Hillary as everyone thought she was going to win.  Trump may have been more prepared for a loss than her, but of course we will never know.

 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

He may have, that is hard to tell.  It certainly was more of a surprise to the DNC and Hillary as everyone thought she was going to win.  Trump may have been more prepared for a loss than her, but of course we will never know.

 

Remember when Hillary was in a snit because she thought the MDR would not recognize her as the legit President.  It's that Hillaryous now

[CaliCat 3,957]

29 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Remember when Hillary was in a snit because she thought the MDR would not recognize her as the legit President.  It's that Hillaryous now

 

 

You're kind of proving her right. Even though she lost the election at the electoral college, you're still talking about her, and using that as a deflection to avoid speaking about the incompetence of the so-called president. 

 

Seems like she's got under your skin. 

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20 hours ago, Teddy B said:

The fact this is all you need to be satisfied is a bit troubling don't you think? I mean what about the actual issues that need to be addressed, they don't matter?

It also makes me feel bad for what his Christmas must be like if that is the standard  Poor guy

[Teddy B 17,252]

1 minute ago, bcking said:

It also makes me feel bad for what his Christmas must be like if that is the standard  Poor guy

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2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

The tantrum that actually required President Obama to get on the phone and tell her to give it up and concede.  Anonymous sources also say she trashed the hotel room and made several racists, homophobic, anti-Semitic statements during her tirade. 

 

What happened to "Anonymous sources are useless" or whatever it is you tend to say in other threads?

 

I don't recall any "official" sources reporting a tantrum, just "anonymous" ones. By the standards we have set on these forums, those should be thrown out.

[Dashinka 24,499]

40 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

 

You're kind of proving her right. Even though she lost the election at the electoral college, you're still talking about her, and using that as a deflection to avoid speaking about the incompetence of the so-called president. 

 

Seems like she's got under your skin. 

The only reason people are still talking about the loser of the last election is that her party and supporters still haven't come to the realization that she lost.  Personally, I wouldn't care if we ever heard or talked about Hillary ever again, but since we are going to perpetuate the whole Russian narrative for at least another year or so, I guess that wish will not happen.

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Also I'm sure it has been mentioned already but on the original topic (since this thread seems to have veered a bit)...

 

"No politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly."

 

Really Trump? In history? 

 

It has been said before but Trump's behavior in many ways reflects that of a toddler or early school age child. Similar to those kids who don't get an ice cream cone and call their mom "the worst mommy in the world!" or they call brocolli "the worst food ever!". They tend to exaggerate and see their situation as the worst it can possibly get, because they don't know any better.

 

We could name quite a few politicians who were treated more unfairly. We can start with the politicians that were murdered.

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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

The only reason people are still talking about the loser of the last election is that her party and supporters still haven't come to the realization that she lost.  Personally, I wouldn't care if we ever heard or talked about Hillary ever again, but since we are going to perpetuate the whole Russian narrative for at least another year or so, I guess that wish will not happen.

Except none of us are bringing her up? At least on these forums the only people who mention her are the "right-leaning" people? You people keep bringing her up.

 

There is a difference between "haven't come to the realization that she lost" and "Don't like the person that won and are seriously concerned he will destroy our country from either the outside or the inside".

 

At least in the conversations on these forums the "left-leaning" folks tend to fall into that second phrase. I don't see anyone here "refusing to believe" that she lost. We know she lost, that is why we don't see the need to keep bringing her up. It's people who support Trump who want to keep bringing her up because that was Trump's crowning achievement and unfortunately the way he is going he won't get anywhere near that again.

[Dashinka 24,499]

4 minutes ago, bcking said:

What happened to "Anonymous sources are useless" or whatever it is you tend to say in other threads?

 

I don't recall any "official" sources reporting a tantrum, just "anonymous" ones. By the standards we have set on these forums, those should be thrown out.

I was making a joke.  I have no idea what her utterances were or who she yelled at, but given this current state of political media, I think I may just become an anonymous source and make up anything about any political leader.  I mean there is no ramifications to me as I will be anonymous, so whatever I say and whatever my agenda can be whatever I wish. 

[yuna628 9,676]

8 minutes ago, bcking said:

It also makes me feel bad for what his Christmas must be like if that is the standard  Poor guy

[Dashinka 24,499]

1 minute ago, bcking said:

Except none of us are bringing her up? At least on these forums the only people who mention her are the "right-leaning" people? You people keep bringing her up.

 

There is a difference between "haven't come to the realization that she lost" and "Don't like the person that won and are seriously concerned he will destroy our country from either the outside or the inside".

 

At least in the conversations on these forums the "left-leaning" folks tend to fall into that second phrase. I don't see anyone here "refusing to believe" that she lost. We know she lost, that is why we don't see the need to keep bringing her up. It's people who support Trump who want to keep bringing her up because that was Trump's crowning achievement and unfortunately the way he is going he won't get anywhere near that again.

You can't help it as I said.  Everything being discussed now regarding the whole Russian investigation narrative is traced back to the election. 

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

I was making a joke.  I have no idea what her utterances were or who she yelled at, but given this current state of political media, I think I may just become an anonymous source and make up anything about any political leader.  I mean there is no ramifications to me as I will be anonymous, so whatever I say and whatever my agenda can be whatever I wish. 

The correct explanation, again based on your opinion of anonymous sources, would be "I have no idea IF she yelled at anyone". If we can't go off anonymous sources at all, to my knowledge we have no idea how she responded to the loss that night.

 

I agree that anonymous sources need to be taken with suspicion, but I understand why they exist and I wouldn't automatically assume they are all made up and false. If I worked at the White House and wanted to talk about what was happening, I would for sure only do so anonymously. Most people want to keep their jobs even when they hate them, because they need the money.

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

You can't help it as I said.  Everything being discussed now regarding the whole Russian investigation narrative is traced back to the election. 

You're right I can't help it. I can't help that fact that you, and people like you, keep feeling the need to talk about Hillary. It makes me wonder who really is her fan club.

 

In my mind the "Russian investigation" at this point traces back to people like Flynn, Manafort and the others that we have already shown to have real connections that are highly questionable. Beyond that I don't know details because none of us do. That is why it's an investigation. No rational person truly believes that the Russian influence was solely responsible for Trump's victory. That would be silly. However, just because it wasn't solely responsible doesn't mean we shouldn't want to have a clear understanding of the ways in which they meddled so we can stop them in the future. I for one don't want anyone (whether it is the President, the National Security Advisor or anyone else) beholden to the Russians in government.

[Dashinka 24,499]

3 minutes ago, bcking said:

The correct explanation, again based on your opinion of anonymous sources, would be "I have no idea IF she yelled at anyone". If we can't go off anonymous sources at all, to my knowledge we have no idea how she responded to the loss that night.

 

I agree that anonymous sources need to be taken with suspicion, but I understand why they exist and I wouldn't automatically assume they are all made up and false. If I worked at the White House and wanted to talk about what was happening, I would for sure only do so anonymously. Most people want to keep their jobs even when they hate them, because they need the money.

I guess I am just a bit more skeptical than you are.  Everyone in DC has an agenda, so if I want to hurt someone politically, I just have to make something up and let the proverbial chips fall.  No ramifications to me even if I made it up, no ramifications to the reporters as the are protected.  So if it smells like a rat...  If I worked at the WH and wanted to talk about what is happening, and I was on the other side, I would leave.  No amount of money is worth that much.