For Trump Supporters, the Real Outrage Is the Left’s Uproar Over Comey

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1 hour ago, Teddy B said:

 

You really think that President Trump is doing anything more than President Obama did with respect to being a purported future dictator?  Also, all politicians are narcissists, Hillary more so that President Trump.

 

The country will survive, and hopefully we will have a more conservative federal judicial system.

 

Lastly, you have the admit that the Left is far more organized at throwing well orchestrated tantrums.  When President Obama took office, there were many that were not happy and it wasn't for racial reasons, but I don't remember all the battery, or property damage protests occurring with bused in professional protesters.  The majority of the people not happy with the situation just grinned and bared it.  Sure, they probably made comments and such, but the property damage and physical battery was kept to a minimum. 

Edited May 12, 2017 by Bill & Katya

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46 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Of course we never saw Conservatives ever make derogatory comments about Obama...........Stalin, Hitler, Born in Kenya etc etc 

Comments are not the same as property damage protests or physical battery.  Sure, many people did not like President Obama, and comments were made. I don't remember the Hitler or Stalin references, but I suppose there were some on the far Right that may have done that.  The big difference is that all the vitriol coming from the MDL against President Trump is coming from those in the mainstream as well as the whack jobs on the far Left.  Also, many of the people in the middle or center right simply marginalize the far right kooks and ignore them which is the best way to react when they talk.

[Teddy B 17,252]

16 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

You really think that President Trump is doing anything more than President Obama did with respect to being a purported future dictator?  Also, all politicians are narcissists, Hillary more so that President Trump.

 

The country will survive, and hopefully we will have a more conservative federal judicial system.

 

Lastly, you have the admit that the Left is far more organized at throwing well orchestrated tantrums.  When President Obama took office, there were many that were not happy and it wasn't for racial reasons, but I don't remember all the battery, or property damage protests occurring with bused in professional protesters.  The majority of the people not happy with the situation just grinned and bared it.  Sure, they probably made comments and such, but the property damage and physical battery was kept to a minimum. 

I don't need to think it, the facts dictate it, see below. Not only is Trump blowing away the numbers of EO's signed by previous presidents including Obama, but throw in the firings of the head of the FBI andthe Attorney General and yes you have the makings of a dictator.

 

 

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Donald Trump has been a long-time critic of President Obama’s executive orders having given interviews and speeches on the subject.  He even at one point tweeted, “Why is @BarackObama constantly issuing executive orders” (Trump Twitter).

Let’s take some time to look into how many executive orders Trump has since signed as President compared to Obama, and other former Presidents.

Trump Compared to Obama

As of February 24, 2017, President Trump has signed 13 executive orders (WhiteHouse.gov).  President Obama in his first term signed 147 executive orders.  In Obama’s second term he signed 129 executive orders.  Averaging the numbers together… on average Obama issued 138 executive orders per term and 34.5 executive orders each year (presidency.ucsb.edu).

February 24^th marks Trump’s 36^th day in office, or 9.9% of his first year in office.  36 days into the Presidency, Trump has issued 38% as many executive orders as Obama did on average each year.  If Trump were to continue to issue orders at this pace he would issue 132 executive orders over the course of his first year in office.  That would mean Trump would issue more executive orders than Barrack Obama enacted in his entire second term and a 400% as many executive orders as President Obama per year.(Archives.gov).

Based on this information, although Donald Trump was against Obama issuing executive orders , but much like Trump’s negative opinions on Obama’s vacation spending, Trump seems to be the bigger offender in this area

Trump Compared to Other Presidents

To further investigate let’s see where the former President Obama and President Trump line up against other Presidents in the number of executive orders that they issued.

According to the Executive Orders Disposition Tables Index, to find last President to have a higher average than Trump’s currently projected 132 orders per year we would have to go back to 1933 when Franklin D. Roosevelt started his term and issued a whopping 307.8 executive orders per year average.

 

The average orders issued per year as President starting with FDR was 83.24.  President Obama issued 34.6 orders per year.  Compared to the average, Obama issued 58% less as many orders than the average President; or less than half.

President Trump is currently projecting average of 132 executive orders a year which puts Donald Trump on a pace to issue 157% as many executive orders compared to an average President from 1933.  President Trump is also on pace to issue 400% as many executive orders as former President Obama.

This would suggest now-sitting President Trump no longer feels executive orders are such a bad thing anymore.

https://freepresspolitics.com/2017/02/24/trump-vs-obama/

 

(As for the "tantrum" topic, I believe you've misread what I'm referring to in my previous posts. My comments are directed specifically at one poster who continuously refers to anyone that disagrees with him as "throwing a tantrum".)

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1 hour ago, IAMX said:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/11/heres-a-reel-of-a-bunch-of-liberals-flip-flopping-on-james-comey-video/

 

 

 

Isn't Trump the best example of someone who "Flip-flopped" on Comey? 

I seem to recall he had quite a lot of praise for the man until this issue with Russia came up.

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2 minutes ago, bcking said:

Isn't Trump the best example of someone who "Flip-flopped" on Comey? 

I seem to recall he had quite a lot of praise for the man until this issue with Russia came up.

No doubt. The flip flopping is a DC epidemic.

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1 minute ago, IAMX said:

No doubt. The flip flopping is a DC epidemic.

For me, the only problem I have with the Comey firing is the timing. I agree it is probably best in the long run for him to be gone. I think the way he handled the Clinton investigation in a very public way was a mistake, and if he indeed has told Trump on multiple occasions about his status in the investigation that is also a mistake.

 

So for me, the only issue is why this week. Yes we can make a long list of mistakes Comey has made, or things the FBI has done poorly with him at the helm (see the other thread about that), but all of that had already happened. Nothing new happened in the last 2 weeks (to my knowledge) other than updates on the "Russia investigation". While he may need to go I can't help but think it is a little wrong if the "straw that broke the camels back" was an investigation that the President himself (or his very close allies) may be included in.

 

If he had kept to the story about the letter from the Deputy AG and going off his recommendation it would have been better for him. Unfortunately Trump seemed to think that he couldn't let someone else take the "credit" for the decision, so he had to admit that he was going to fire him anyway. Which brings us back to why now instead of when he took office.

[Teddy B 17,252]

18 minutes ago, bcking said:

For me, the only problem I have with the Comey firing is the timing. I agree it is probably best in the long run for him to be gone. I think the way he handled the Clinton investigation in a very public way was a mistake, and if he indeed has told Trump on multiple occasions about his status in the investigation that is also a mistake.

 

So for me, the only issue is why this week. Yes we can make a long list of mistakes Comey has made, or things the FBI has done poorly with him at the helm (see the other thread about that), but all of that had already happened. Nothing new happened in the last 2 weeks (to my knowledge) other than updates on the "Russia investigation". While he may need to go I can't help but think it is a little wrong if the "straw that broke the camels back" was an investigation that the President himself (or his very close allies) may be included in.

 

If he had kept to the story about the letter from the Deputy AG and going off his recommendation it would have been better for him. Unfortunately Trump seemed to think that he couldn't let someone else take the "credit" for the decision, so he had to admit that he was going to fire him anyway. Which brings us back to why now instead of when he took office.

And that is just one of the reasons Trump is one of the most narcissistic people in politics or any other venue that I can remember.

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2 hours ago, LionessDeon said:

I have yet to see anyone stomp or throw a fit.  I have seen people speak out, protest, and stand up for their beliefs.  I guess that amounts to a "snowflake fit" 

 

Anything that may be construed as dissent it labeled (branded) a fit. 

 

You mustn't dare disagree with the supreme leader, or question his lies. 

[CaliCat 3,957]

46 minutes ago, bcking said:

Isn't Drumpf the best example of someone who "Flip-flopped" on Comey? 

I seem to recall he had quite a lot of praise for the man until this issue with Russia came up.

 

Comey was a exemplar director until he asked for more resources to investigate the so-called president's connections with Russia.

 

Nothing unethical, suspicious, or slightly debased in that.

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47 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

And that is just one of the reasons Trump is one of the most narcissistic people in politics or any other venue that I can remember.

 

Yes he is.

 

[Teddy B 17,252]

Just for the record, I didn't report that.

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, Teddy B said:

Just for the record, I didn't report that.

I did. It was the right thing to do. I could no longer edit my post by the time I saw yours. 

Edited May 12, 2017 by CaliCat

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I wish I had a flippin dollar for everytime i heard the words TANTRUM or SNOWFLAKE.  My beach home in JA would be paid for by now!!

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

5 minutes ago, LionessDeon said:

I wish I had a flippin dollar for everytime i heard the words TANTRUM or SNOWFLAKE.  My beach home in JA would be paid for by now!!

 

 

You'd be rich. And if italics, bold, and color counted as bonus, your stock would outdo Berkshire Hathaway's!