I130 May 2017 filers

[SDandAkom 13]

14 minutes ago, Muhammadsheikhale said:

Hello Elisa, 

 

it seems you have some experience here. I want to verify something. so is the birth certificate needed if a copy of the naturalization document included? I did not include it since I am from outside the US originally (Syria) and it is kind of difficult to get one now! I hope that document suffice !  

Yes! Your birth certificate is a required document. Every document you file will require both. If you are Natural born American, your birth certificate serves two purposes.

1. Evidence of identity which proves your live birth and where you were born.
2. As proof of citizenship.

When you are an immigrant, the birth details are not on your Naturalization certificate so it can serve for the second point but no the first.

[Muhammad&Mansory 117]

2 minutes ago, SDandAkom said:

Yes! Your birth certificate is a required document. Every document you file will require both. If you are Natural born American, your birth certificate serves two purposes.

1. Evidence of identity which proves your live birth and where you were born.
2. As proof of citizenship.

When you are an immigrant, the birth details are not on your Naturalization certificate so it can serve for the second point but no the first.

That is strange! their instructions on the USCIS website says other wise. the following options mention that ONLY one is needed because it says OR at the last option given!  right? 

I am cutting and pasting what is on the website: 

What documents do you need to show that you are a U.S. citizen?
A. A copy of your birth certificate, issued by a civil registrar, vital statistics office, or other civil authority showing that you were born in the United States;
B. A copy of your naturalization certificate or certificate of citizenship issued by USCIS or the former Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS);
C. A copy of Form FS-240, Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA), issued by a U.S. Embassy or U.S. Consulate;
D. A copy of your unexpired U.S. passport; or
E. An original statement from a U.S. consular officer verifying that you are a U.S. citizen with a valid passport. If you do not have any of the above documents and you were born in the United States, see the What if an official document is not available section of these Instructions.

[SDandAkom 13]

Just now, Muhammadsheikhale said:

That is strange! their instructions on the USCIS website says other wise. the following options mention that ONLY one is needed because it says OR at the last option given!  right? 

I am cutting and pasting what is on the website: 

What documents do you need to show that you are a U.S. citizen?
A. A copy of your birth certificate, issued by a civil registrar, vital statistics office, or other civil authority showing that you were born in the United States;
B. A copy of your naturalization certificate or certificate of citizenship issued by USCIS or the former Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS);
C. A copy of Form FS-240, Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA), issued by a U.S. Embassy or U.S. Consulate;
D. A copy of your unexpired U.S. passport; or
E. An original statement from a U.S. consular officer verifying that you are a U.S. citizen with a valid passport. If you do not have any of the above documents and you were born in the United States, see the What if an official document is not available section of these Instructions.

Your birth certificate is not used to proof united states citizenship. It is used to supplement your identity since your naturalization certificate does not have parents information POB and other vital information on it.

[SDandAkom 13]

23 hours ago, AliceKS said:

Thank you for your response. I called and were told 6 months but I will start getting all my papers together to make the applications next week.

 

Six months is what NVC will tell you but it will be good for one year at the embassy level.

[Monique2013 8]

9 minutes ago, SDandAkom said:

Six months is what NVC will tell you but it will be good for one year at the embassy level.

Thank you. This is great news, eliminate some of my worries

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47 minutes ago, Muhammadsheikhale said:

Hello Elisa, 

 

it seems you have some experience here. I want to verify something. so is the birth certificate needed if a copy of the naturalization document included? I did not include it since I am from outside the US originally (Syria) and it is kind of difficult to get one now! I hope that document suffice !  

Hello! Well, actually we sent both, my husband is the us citizen and we were told by the attorney we should send both birth certificates and also his naturalization certificate, but it depends of the officer who will check for your case. Keep calm, and wait, if they send you the RFE at least you will know which is the misssing document. 

[SDandAkom 13]

4 minutes ago, Elisa Segovia said:

Hello! Well, actually we sent both, my husband is the us citizen and we were told by the attorney we should send both birth certificates and also his naturalization certificate, but it depends of the officer who will check for your case. Keep calm, and wait, if they send you the RFE at least you will know which is the misssing document. 

Most RFEs are for birth certificates even though Naturalization certificates are added.  USCIS considers the petitioner's birth certificate as an initial evidence.

[Muhammad&Mansory 117]

Just now, SDandAkom said:

Most RFEs are for birth certificates even though Naturalization certificates are added.  USCIS considers the petitioner's birth certificate as an initial evidence.

Thanks for the info. I will try to work on getting this document from now. it does not hurt to try early. at least I can buy sometime in case they ask for it.  

Good luck. 

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1 minute ago, SDandAkom said:

Most RFEs are for birth certificates even though Naturalization certificates are added.  USCIS considers the petitioner's birth certificate as an initial evidence.

Yes but here at visa journey I have seen lot of cases approved without the birth certificate of the petitioner. So it's probably they get a RFE but it's not 100% for sure. It depends... 

[SDandAkom 13]

3 minutes ago, Muhammadsheikhale said:

Thanks for the info. I will try to work on getting this document from now. it does not hurt to try early. at least I can buy sometime in case they ask for it.  

Good luck. 

Either way, your spouse will need the original at her Consular interview so its not a bad thing to plan for.

[yekabeltre 9]

1 hour ago, SDandAkom said:

Oh wow! I didn't know an RFE will make us all feel this good. But that is a good news. We should be getting good news soon. You will be approved witin a week if you send the evidence requested.

When I saw the RFE I got so excited 😀 I'm a us citizen and my attorney  didn't add my birth certificate but my naturalization instead so they sent me the RFE. My husband is sending me my birth certificate tomorrow so I can get it by Monday. Hopefully  will get approved soon. Good luck guys!!

[No-Where-Man 147]

Indeed good news for everyone. I was confident they were working on May. I do remember I sent my naturalization certificate and my passport. Not sure they will need my birth certificate but guess will sit and wait.....keep your timelines updated guys

[aywang 169]

2 hours ago, no_where_man said:

Indeed good news for everyone. I was confident they were working on May. I do remember I sent my naturalization certificate and my passport. Not sure they will need my birth certificate but guess will sit and wait.....keep your timelines updated guys

I am also a May filer petitioning for my husband.  I also just sent in my naturalization certificate and my current passport.  Hopefully they don't need my birth certificate.  I am in slooooooooooooooooooooooooooow Nebraska though.  Hopefully, I will hear something by next Jan.  My priority date is May 8th.

[Lewismicheals 42]

6 hours ago, yekabeltre said:

Hi.. Go to the Uscis website and write your receipt number. Let me know☺

No update yet.  But will sure post when it has been

[yekabeltre 9]

Good morning guys! I read online that the uscis will send a RFE if they see that you don't make enough money. That's when they'll ask for an affidavit.