Kent school halts out-of-country trips

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

2 minutes ago, IAMX said:

I'll just get in their favor by taking them on a drive with my new wife.

 

 

 

New wife. New Canadian daughter new hybrid SUV.  Wow 

[IAMX 3,055]

Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

New wife. New Canadian daughter new hybrid SUV.  Wow 

Canadian milk bags.

[CaliCat 3,957]

2 hours ago, Mr&Mrs G. said:

Maybe that's all the documentation they needed previously to bring the kids on trips to Canada but it's a little risky to chance it now. Wonder how were they planning to get them to Osaka and back? 

 

Not too long ago, all you needed to cross into Canada and back was a driver's license. We spent time in upstate NY, and crossing into Quebec and back was a breeze. Good times. 

[IAMX 3,055]

I believe those changes to visiting Canada occurred around the time I immigrated to Canada, though I could be mistaken. It made no sense that Canadians visiting the US were subject to far more scrutiny than Americans visiting Canada. That, and "security reasons". While they do the customs processing and such at the Canadian destination, passport or equivalent NEXUS is definitely required to board an international flight away from the US..

 

http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/planning-a-trip/international-travel/traveling-from-the-u-s.html

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A passport is required for ALL international travel. If you're traveling anywhere overseas, even to Canada, the Caribbean or Mexico, you need a passport to board an international flight and to enter any country. In general, your passport must be valid for at least six months beyond the period of intended stay in a foreign country.

 

Don't think it's more clear than that.

Edited May 3, 2017 by IAMX

[IAMX 3,055]

And..

 

https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/travel-info/check-in/id-requirements

Each country on your itinerary may have different entrance and exit requirements and all are strictly enforced. It's your responsibility to ensure the documents you use to leave are sufficient to get you back home. If you do not have documentation that will allow entry for you or your children to all countries on your reservation, you will not be allowed to board your flight.

 

Verified by other travelers at Tripadvisor:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g1-i10702-k8811113-When_to_Show_Passport_for_International_Flight-Air_Travel.html

 

- Can use ID to check in and pass security

- Must show passport and potentially other documents to board

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

46 minutes ago, IAMX said:

I believe those changes to visiting Canada occurred around the time I immigrated to Canada, though I could be mistaken. It made no sense that Canadians visiting the US were subject to far more scrutiny than Americans visiting Canada. That, and "security reasons". While they do the customs processing and such at the Canadian destination, passport or equivalent NEXUS is definitely required to board an international flight away from the US..

 

http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_US/traveling-with-us/planning-a-trip/international-travel/traveling-from-the-u-s.html

 

Don't think it's more clear than that.

If you are not flying into Canada you can use an Enhanced drivers license from most of the border states 

[IAMX 3,055]

7 minutes ago, ccneat said:

If you are not flying into Canada you can use an Enhanced drivers license from most of the border states 

Yep. My post solely dealt with flying in. I think I might have mentioned different restrictions for entering on ground. My daughter, who is entitled to US citizenship (but I've been too lazy to get it), entered the US on the ground on her Canadian long form birth certificate. That of course was when we lived in Ontario, where flights to destinations in the US were infinitely cheaper driving to Buffalo and flying from there rather than flying out from Pearson (YYZ). The nearest airport in the US to Calgary that goes anywhere in the US and is even slightly a hub for cheaper flights is probably Great Falls. Still, every time I've looked I've seen prices comparable to flying out of Calgary (YYC). So since moving to Alberta have used flights and had to get daughter her passport as, as of our last flight, they haven't accepted birth certificate like they do on the ground border entries (both sides).

Edited May 3, 2017 by IAMX

[Dashinka 25,365]

7 hours ago, CaliCat said:

 

Not too long ago, all you needed to cross into Canada and back was a driver's license. We spent time in upstate NY, and crossing into Quebec and back was a breeze. Good times. 

Didn't this happen pretty much right after 9/11?  I used to travel to Ontario all the time for work and never needed a passport to enter Canada, or to return to the US, if memory serves, it was soon after 9/11 that this changed.

[Dashinka 25,365]

10 hours ago, CaliCat said:

 

There is no passport control on the way out. The airlines will check your passport for identification and visas for the destination country. There is no USCIS check on the way out.

When I fly to Russia via China I get checked no fewer than four times by airline employees.  Every time I have to explain to them, I am not staying in China, only transiting and also having to explain China's transit rules for US citizens.  Often times I get asked multiple times by the same person.

 

So I agree the US has no passport control to exit the country, the airlines do perform a similar role when traveling internationally.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

When I fly to Russia via China I get checked no fewer than four times by airline employees.  Every time I have to explain to them, I am not staying in China, only transiting and also having to explain China's transit rules for US citizens.  Often times I get asked multiple times by the same person.

 

So I agree the US has no passport control to exit the country, the airlines do perform a similar role when traveling internationally.

So in other words you can't leave the country on an international flight without a passport 

[Dashinka 25,365]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So in other words you can't leave the country on an international flight without a passport 

That is my understanding.  And the airlines also pay very close attention to the requirements of the country you are traveling to. 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

9 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

That is my understanding.  And the airlines also pay very close attention to the requirements of the country you are traveling to. 

And ladies and gentlemen just like that. , 3 pages later we are back where we started 

[IAMX 3,055]

13 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So in other words you can't leave the country on an international flight without a passport 

Pretty much. I would point out for others that neither of us said the USCIS does this, that part was fabricated by another a few posts into the thread.

[Dashinka 25,365]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

And ladies and gentlemen just like that. , 3 pages later we are back where we started 

[IAMX 3,055]

3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Gotta keep in mind when debating the left, they tend to insert their own narrative into a debate when arguing with you. It's pretty sad that this narrative insertion completely derailed the thread and had to be corrected. But.. that's life.

Edited May 3, 2017 by IAMX