k-1 evidence

[mike67 0]

Hi everyone!! I'm new here and i just recently returned from my trip to the philippines to meet my now fiancee. now that i've returned and been reading up on all the procedures and learning about this whole process,i've been wondering what sort of evidence do i need to submit as part of my I-129f package? I've been concerned mostly because there wasn't many pics taken that may be of use and perhaps i could submit what i do got. any help or guidance in this would be greatly appreciated.

[TracyTN 237]

Its all in the guides.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...mp;page=k1guide

1. Copies of all airline boarding passes, train passes, itineraries, hotel receipts, passport stamps (make sure you can read the dates on the stamps), and other documentary evidence that you have met within the last two years. You may want to highlight or place post-it notes indicating the dates and locations on the copies (to make the adjudication easier) for the person reviewing your file.

2. Color Photos of you and your fiance(e) together. Make sure you write your names, date, and location on the back of every photo. Provide two to five photo's. If you only have a single copy of the photo, then make a color copy and send that. If it is a digital photo, have it printed at a company such as ofoto.com. You can also make duplicates of photo's at your local photo store (Walgreeens, CVS, etc). Place photo's in a plastic bag or photo sheet and label the sheet. Note that you may not receive originals of photo's back.

3. The following items will not typically show proof of having met in the last two years however will show proof of an ongoing relationship: Copies of phone bills, cell phone bills, emails (you can edit personal info with a marker), letters (edit personal info also), stamps on the letters (to document the date they were sent), and other written documentary proof. Provide a reasonable amount; two to four of each type. Pick a range of dates up to and including the present. You can also include a copy of engagement ring receipt (this is something that is a big optional - do not worry if you do not have a ring yet!)

[mike67 0]

Thank u..for the information there. I've been really concerned about the lack of my real evidence,such as the pics..it was such a fast trip and there wasn't any real opportunities for pics and we spent most of it alone away at a resort.we didn't have any formal engagement party or anything.we are planning to do the whole ring thing later and i just been wondering if i should even be considering filing just because i didn't read about or even think about this all before we really met.I've spoke to my fiancee about this concern and shes alittle emotional because she hopes we won't have to delay just because i was taking things as they came.

[TimsDaisy 0]

Photos aren't the "Real" evidence. Your boarding pass and your stamped passport are the real- the primary - evidence to show.

Include receipts from the resort where you were staying, things like that, and you should be okay.

[Nanusia & Lukaszek 0]

Thank u..for the information there. I've been really concerned about the lack of my real evidence,such as the pics..it was such a fast trip and there wasn't any real opportunities for pics and we spent most of it alone away at a resort.we didn't have any formal engagement party or anything.we are planning to do the whole ring thing later and i just been wondering if i should even be considering filing just because i didn't read about or even think about this all before we really met.I've spoke to my fiancee about this concern and shes alittle emotional because she hopes we won't have to delay just because i was taking things as they came.

Pictures together according to me are a necessity! All other evidence (boarding pass, tickets, receipts) put you in that country at that time. But a photo is worth a thousand words, it proves you have been together & met in the last 2 years. If you send the I129-F packet without any pictures together, it is highly likely you will get an RFE which will cost further delays.

If you do decide to go back to see your fiance before filing, my recommendation is to take a picture of you two together holding a known newspaper that proves you are together, the place, and date of meeting. When my fiance showed our picture like this at his interview, the GC smiled and said they like seeing those pics.

Photos aren't the "Real" evidence. Your boarding pass and your stamped passport are the real- the primary - evidence to show.

Include receipts from the resort where you were staying, things like that, and you should be okay.

I disagree. Boarding pass & tickets acknowledge where you were in place & time, but not that you were there with your fiance. A photo proves you were together and met at that particular place.

[TimsDaisy 0]

Thank u..for the information there. I've been really concerned about the lack of my real evidence,such as the pics..it was such a fast trip and there wasn't any real opportunities for pics and we spent most of it alone away at a resort.we didn't have any formal engagement party or anything.we are planning to do the whole ring thing later and i just been wondering if i should even be considering filing just because i didn't read about or even think about this all before we really met.I've spoke to my fiancee about this concern and shes alittle emotional because she hopes we won't have to delay just because i was taking things as they came.

Pictures together according to me are a necessity! All other evidence (boarding pass, tickets, receipts) put you in that country at that time. But a photo is worth a thousand words, it proves you have been together & met in the last 2 years. If you send the I129-F packet without any pictures together, it is highly likely you will get an RFE which will cost further delays.

If you do decide to go back to see your fiance before filing, my recommendation is to take a picture of you two together holding a known newspaper that proves you are together, the place, and date of meeting. When my fiance showed our picture like this at his interview, the GC smiled and said they like seeing those pics.

Yes, pictures are great - BUT - they are "Secondary Evidence," according to RFEs received by VJers. Pictures alone won't get you through the process. The boarding passes and passport stamps are "Primary Evidence" that can't be faked as easily as a photo (go with it, don't give examples of how they call can be faked or how if you just take a photo holding today's paper, yadda yadda yadda).

File the petition now with all the primary evidence you can - receipts, itineraries, boarding passes, copies of the relevant passport stamps - include some secondary evidence like an email or phone record, etc, and then see what happens.

Read through the RFE discussion pinned at the top of this forum for more insight on problems other members have had with evidence.

[Nanusia & Lukaszek 0]

Yes, pictures are great - BUT - they are "Secondary Evidence," according to RFEs received by VJers. Pictures alone won't get you through the process. The boarding passes and passport stamps are "Primary Evidence" that can't be faked as easily as a photo (go with it, don't give examples of how they call can be faked or how if you just take a photo holding today's paper, yadda yadda yadda).

File the petition now with all the primary evidence you can - receipts, itineraries, boarding passes, copies of the relevant passport stamps - include some secondary evidence like an email or phone record, etc, and then see what happens.

Read through the RFE discussion pinned at the top of this forum for more insight on problems other members have had with evidence.

Say what you like, but I know from my own experience on photos. I included like 3-5 pics in the I-129F filing, and at interview they asked my fiance why we sent so few! Good thing he had our whole album with him, because they asked to see more pics.

So TimsDaisy theory may/may not be ok while processing at USCIS, but pics are always better to have and less problems at eventual interview.

By saying pics according to me are essential... I am NOT saying not to include boarding passes or tickets, because you should. The more the better.

[Nagishkaw 510]

..."And then see what happens. " ???

[TimsDaisy 0]

But if they don't have photos, is he supposed to delay the process until he has enough time and money to get over there to get some taken?

Next time, I'm sure they'll have their camera in overdrive, but for now, I'm trying to offer some sound advice on how to do the best with what they do have.

[cellarlily 0]

We didn't send in one photo, nor did my huband take any to the visa interview. If you have evidence that you were in the same place at the same time that is dated factual evidence, that trumps pictures big time.

We had Eurostar tickets to prove we went to Paris together. That was way better than any photos we might have taken on our vacation.

Send copies of receipts that you were in the country. Boarding passes with dates. Put in some pictures of you together (that were taken within the last 2 years) and write the date and location on the back, but those alone will not be enough.

[ScottandLoreli 0]

Hi everyone!! I'm new here and i just recently returned from my trip to the philippines to meet my now fiancee. now that i've returned and been reading up on all the procedures and learning about this whole process,i've been wondering what sort of evidence do i need to submit as part of my I-129f package? I've been concerned mostly because there wasn't many pics taken that may be of use and perhaps i could submit what i do got. any help or guidance in this would be greatly appreciated.

Hello Mike,

My wife is from the Philippines and we went through this same process and I seen some other posts here say that you may not need pics and they arent as important.That might be true in the countries thier fiancees live in,but in the Philippines the consuls are pretty strict.You are going to want to be prepared to show them when they ask and trust me,they will ask along with copies of your boarding passes,passport stamp airlines,hotel reciepts,$conversion reciepts.I dont think you can ever have too much evidence.Even if they dont ask for all of it,you want to be prepared just in case.If you dont have pics together,with her and her family in places that are known places or in front of any signs or landmarks,you need to get some before you file your petition.I think that all these things are vital,you dont want an RFE that will delay you even as you start to file.It is better to have peace of mind knowing you covered these,then it should be easy.This whole visa process is to prove your relationship is true and genuine and for the next 8 months at least,it is your job to prove it.

Good luck to you

Scott

[Nikola 0]

Hello everyone! I'm happy to read that many people have managed to do this right and send the right evidence, get their visa and be together. For the rest, i wish you luck and alot of strenght.

I am new in the forums, new to reply, but i've read them alot.

Me and my fiancee have met online like 2 years ago playing an on line game. We still haven't met but we both decided that it's a time when we should get married and live together. She's US sitizen and i'm from Macedonia. We plan to meet this September and complete all the papers we need, make alot of evidence and when she goes back to US to start the K-1 form.

I'm sorry i got alot into my story, but my question and my fiancee's greatest concern is the PRIMARY evidence.

She's been reading on this forum and is still not sure will the plane ticket, passport, hotel receipt, photos, etc will be enough as a primary evidence. I sugested when she's here to report her in the police that she as a foreigner is staying in my house, providing my address there and get a copy of that as an evidence? We also plan to go in the US embassy here, well maybe we can get a copy of a paper claiming we were on a meeting in the embassy together with our names on that.

She's really concerned. I'm asking the people who managed to complete this process and are now together with their loves to give me an advice about the primary evidence.

Thank you all for all the infos on the forums!

[kmplisa 0]

Photos aren't the "Real" evidence. Your boarding pass and your stamped passport are the real- the primary - evidence to show.

Include receipts from the resort where you were staying, things like that, and you should be okay.

actually, thats bad advice, just because he's been to this country and stayed at this resort doesn't mean he met or spent time with his lady. Correct me if i'm wrong but I'm sure her name is not on the hotel reciept. So no, you wont be "okay" just because you have a stamp on your passport and a receipt from your hotel.

TimsDaisy is correct that its secondary evidence, but if your primary doesn't have anything with her name on it, that shows that you two have been in the same place at the same time, then you will get an RFE. You can send it in for the time being but expect an RFE.

Harout

Edited April 15, 2007 by kmplisa

[kmplisa 0]

But if they don't have photos, is he supposed to delay the process until he has enough time and money to get over there to get some taken?

Yes, this is supposed to be a serious matter, therfor it should be correct. Its one thing to forget or mess up on something and find out you got an RFE and its a whole nother thing to send in a packet thats not complete.

When you tell him just to send what he's got, it delays the whole process because he will definately get an RFE.

Harout

[mike67 0]

well, thank u all for your advice and i'm glad i discovered VJ. I've given it some thought and I plan to rethink our plans and make things more official for us both in regards not only to our Visa Journey but also our relationship.so, i won't be updating my timeline just yet until things are more solid.I can manage to take another trip and work out the time to do it sometime soon.I see two positive advantages from this..I get to spend more time with my sweetheart and can avoid time lost due to rushing this and getting a RFE!