Evidence of Support

[PWalker 0]

So... packet 3 had 'evidence of support' and a checklist item. No form was specified, just 'evidence'. I got what I felt would work, but now that I have packet 4, it is specifying 'I-864, Federal individual income tax return for the most recent tax year). Why did they not specify the items in packet 3?

 

Also, I noticed that I-864 is almost identify to I-134. Do I need both?

[PWalker 0]

My fiancee's grandfather is supporting us, and he is the sponsor in the I-134. We are not sure how to fill out the I-864.

[NikLR 13,232]

k1 need I-134 along with 2017 tax return transcript (or complete tax return.)  Also good to include pay stubs and/or letter from employer. 

 

I-864 is used for AOS after marriage or other immigrant visas. 

[NikLR 13,232]

Both petitioner and co-sponsor will do the I-134.  Both petitioner and joint sponsor will do an I-864 when it's time for AOS. 

[PWalker 0]

Just now, NikLR said:

k1 need I-134 along with 2017 tax return transcript (or complete tax return.)  Also good to include pay stubs and/or letter from employer. 

 

I-864 is used for AOS after marriage or other immigrant visas. 

but in my packet 4 email it specifically states I-864 as something to bring to the interview.

[NikLR 13,232]

No it states I-134 for fiance which is what the K1 visa class is

 

the P4 is a generic P4 for K1 and k3 visa classes and you DO NOT need the I-864 for interview.  Trust me. 

[KimchiLumpia 315]

4 hours ago, NikLR said:

No it states I-134 for fiance which is what the K1 visa class is

 

the P4 is a generic P4 for K1 and k3 visa classes and you DO NOT need the I-864 for interview.  Trust me. 

I double agree with this.

I-134 form is for K1 Fiance Visa, and the I-864 form will be for the adjustment of status later down the line.

My Canadian fiance just had her interview in Montreal last Weds April 19th, and I attended.  They requested the I-134 form and supporting documents, not the I-864.  

[PWalker 0]

15 hours ago, KimchiLumpia said:

I double agree with this.

I-134 form is for K1 Fiance Visa, and the I-864 form will be for the adjustment of status later down the line.

My Canadian fiance just had her interview in Montreal last Weds April 19th, and I attended.  They requested the I-134 form and supporting documents, not the I-864.  

You went because you wanted to, right? Not because you had to be there..... Right? I thought that the US citizen doesn't have to attend the interview.

[KimchiLumpia 315]

3 minutes ago, PWalker said:

You went because you wanted to, right? Not because you had to be there..... Right? I thought that the US citizen doesn't have to attend the interview.

You are correct. The US citizen is not required to attend the interview.  

We had never traveled to Montreal, so my fiance and I decided to make a vacation of it.

If you do decide to attend, make sure to bring your US passport to the interview with you.  The security officers requested to see my US passport upon entry into the US Embassy in Montreal.  

[freshheir 6]

For the K1 visa you most definitely use the I-134 form. I noticed while helping my fiance and co-sponsor fill it out that they also ask for banking and employment proof/information as support so I had that prepared, but didn't realize until some digging on VJ that you needed the tax return for the I-134 (I thought it was just post-immigration application before that). So make sure you have the tax return as well. I brought the whole thing but they only took the 1040 pages.

 

If you use a co-sponsor, your fiance AND co-sponsor need to do the form and the supporting evidence for themselves separately. My fiance NEEDED his father as a co-sponsor because he is a student. Even with 0 income and a lack luster tax return, he was approved. So don't worry about a main sponsor's information if you are dependent on a co-sponsor. At least, that's how it was in Montreal, Canada.

 

Also a side note: if you use a co-sponsor they'll want ID of the co-sponsor, ideally a passport or birth certificate that clarifies nationality or citizenship. I gave them a license and they took it, but it was apparently it was the least preferred option. 

Edited April 27, 2017 by freshheir

[PWalker 0]

14 minutes ago, freshheir said:

For the K1 visa you most definitely use the I-134 form. I noticed while helping my fiance and co-sponsor fill it out that they also ask for banking and employment proof/information as support so I had that prepared, but didn't realize until some digging on VJ that you needed the tax return for the I-134 (I thought it was just post-immigration application before that). So make sure you have the tax return as well. I brought the whole thing but they only took the 1040 pages.

 

If you use a co-sponsor, your fiance AND co-sponsor need to do the form and the supporting evidence for themselves separately. My fiance NEEDED his father as a co-sponsor because he is a student. Even with 0 income and a lack luster tax return, he was approved. So don't worry about a main sponsor's information if you are dependent on a co-sponsor. At least, that's how it was in Montreal, Canada.

 

Also a side note: if you use a co-sponsor they'll want ID of the co-sponsor, ideally a passport or birth certificate that clarifies nationality or citizenship. I gave them a license and they took it, but it was apparently it was the least preferred option. 

I wish this stuff was listed in the emails. The i134 has his social security number, and birthday. Is that really not good enough? Will a photocopy of our sponsor's birth certificate be enough? 

Edited April 27, 2017 by PWalker
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[freshheir 6]

5 minutes ago, PWalker said:

I wish this stuff was listed in the emails. The i134 has his social security number, and birthday. Is that really not good enough? Will a photocopy of our sponsor's birth certificate be enough? 

For the banking and employment info, they ask for that in the form itself, but they never took it at my interview. Because the form asks for it I would recommend having it just in case its a case-by-case or consulate-feels-like-it kind of document. 

 

If you are only using a sponsor and no cosponsor, than you should only need the ID documentation you've used in the past (either a passport or birth certificate). I only mentioned the co-sponsor because they don't say that ANYWHERE EVER but I got asked for it, and was only sort of prepared thanks to VJers in the past. 

[NikLR 13,232]

8 hours ago, PWalker said:

I wish this stuff was listed in the emails. The i134 has his social security number, and birthday. Is that really not good enough? Will a photocopy of our sponsor's birth certificate be enough? 

It's all listed on the NVC website. 

For a co-sponsor or petitioner, no it's not good enough.  They need to a) prove they are domiciled in the USA, b) prove they have enough assets or income to sponsor and in the case of a co/joint sponsor c) prove they are a USC or LPR.   Lots of people who are not LPR or USC have SSN.  That means nothing. 

[PWalker 0]

1 minute ago, NikLR said:

It's all listed on the NVC website. 

For a co-sponsor or petitioner, no it's not good enough.  They need to a) prove they are domiciled in the USA, b) prove they have enough assets or income to sponsor and in the case of a co/joint sponsor c) prove they are a USC or LPR.   Lots of people who are not LPR or USC have SSN.  That means nothing. 

Okay, here's my situation. My sponsor, is my fianceé's grandfather. He is living with my fianceé's mother. I have proof of the mother's house deed, and proof of the grandfather's financial support. How do I link these?

[NikLR 13,232]

9 hours ago, PWalker said:

Okay, here's my situation. My sponsor, is my fianceé's grandfather. He is living with my fianceé's mother. I have proof of the mother's house deed, and proof of the grandfather's financial support. How do I link these?

Mothers deed doesnt matter. It would only matter if she was co-sponsor and was using assets.  Then she would need the house professionally appraised and any mortgage owing would be subtracted.  Assets not in a petitioner's or beneficiary's names need to be 5x the difference between income and the poverty guidelines. (Poverty guideline for 2 people is about 20k so you need 60k total for petitioner or 100k for a joint/co-sponsor if they have no income)

 

Financial support how? Is he using assets? Income? How is he able to supersede the poverty guidelines? 

Your sponsor is your fiancee.  Her cosponsor, and probably also joint sponsor, is her grandfather.   If she doesnt make 20k a year how are you guys going to live? You wont be able to work for 90 days after filing AOS after marriage.  So thats 90+days of either supporting yourself with savings or depending on someone else.