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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Hi there, 

 

I'm a U.S. citizen with a girlfriend who is a Canadian citizen.  We have been dating for 4+ years (Throughout college) and have decided that we want to take the next step and live together in the US.  We initially tried to go the TN route, but she was unable to find a company who wasn't afraid of the phrase "TN Status".  We're now looking at marriage based visas, and I've carved out two paths:  

 

Option A) Filing I-130 (For a CR-1 Visa) WITHOUT I-485.  Get married in Canada.  She comes to visit me for a couple months over the summer (July - August) and then returns to Canada until the CR-1 has been processed and she receives her Green Card.

 

Option B) Filing I-130 (For a CR-1 Visa) WITH an I-485.  She comes to the US, and I propose.   We get married and send in the I-130 and I-458 at the same time, and she stays here for the entire duration of the document processing.

 

My question is: Are both of these options legal? Does one have a benefit over the other? Appreciate any insight! 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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8 minutes ago, XPeter3994 said:

Hi there, 

 

I'm a U.S. citizen with a girlfriend who is a Canadian citizen.  We have been dating for 4+ years (Throughout college) and have decided that we want to take the next step and live together in the US.  We initially tried to go the TN route, but she was unable to find a company who wasn't afraid of the phrase "TN Status".  We're now looking at marriage based visas, and I've carved out two paths:  

 

Option A) Filing I-130 (For a CR-1 Visa) WITHOUT I-485.  Get married in Canada.  She comes to visit me for a couple months over the summer (July - August) and then returns to Canada until the CR-1 has been processed and she receives her Green Card.

 

Option B) Filing I-130 (For a CR-1 Visa) WITH an I-485.  She comes to the US, and I propose.   We get married and send in the I-130 and I-458 at the same time, and she stays here for the entire duration of the document processing.

 

My question is: Are both of these options legal? Does one have a benefit over the other? Appreciate any insight! 

I may be reading that wrong, but option b sounds incorrect as you cannot enter the US with a preconceived intent to stay.

 

My husband is the USC and I'm Canadian.  We applied for a K1 visa.  It was quick (6 months from filing to US entry) and then about another 4 months before I received an EAD/AP and about a month after that I received my green card. 

 

It was the best and quickest way for us to be together, though those 4 months not being able to work were a bit tough. 

 

The CR1 visa would mean she would have to wait out the process in Canada (visiting allowed) but would not be able to live in the US until she has an IV.  The benefit to the CR1 route is you get green card upon entrance so no delay in looking for work, but again, it's more time apart. 

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: India
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22 minutes ago, XPeter3994 said:

Option B) Filing I-130 (For a CR-1 Visa) WITH an I-485.  She comes to the US, and I propose.   We get married and send in the I-130 and I-458 at the same time, and she stays here for the entire duration of the document processing.

 

Option B likely constitutes visa fraud. You can't enter on the visa waiver or short-term visa program with the intent of getting married and adjusting your status; perhaps others can chime in.

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Option A is fine, option B is illegal. 

 

As others have mentioned, K1 visa might also be a possibility.

If it isn't difficult, it isn't worth it.

 

K1 process

9/24/15: I129f sent

9/30/15: NOA1

11/2/15: NOA2

Delayed processing due to work

3/15/16: Medical

4/28/16: Interview (approved)

Delayed entry due to work

8/12/16: POE Detroit

 

9/4/16: Wedding!

 

AOS process:

9/9/16: I485/I131/I765 sent

9/14/16: Received 3xNOAs by text/e-mail (day 2)

9/14-18/16: Received 3xpaper NOAs 

9/23/16: Received biometrics appointment letter (day 11)

10/3/16: Biometrics appointment (day 19)

11/4/16: EAD+AP approved (day 53)

11/16/16: EAD status changed to card shipped (day 65)

11/17/16: EAD/AP combo card received (day 66)

12/30/16: Notice of interview scheduled (day 109)

2/1/17: AOS interview (day 142) - APPROVED

2/8/17: GC received (day 150)

 

ROC process:

11/3/2018: ROC window opens

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Thanks for the replies! 

 

Looks like Option B is out of the question then, we want to remain legal at all times.  Since getting her a Green Card/Work authorization is top priority, would a K-1 be any faster than a CR-1? Sounds like I'm looking at 10-12 months either way.  

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
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33 minutes ago, XPeter3994 said:

Thanks for the replies! 

 

Looks like Option B is out of the question then, we want to remain legal at all times.  Since getting her a Green Card/Work authorization is top priority, would a K-1 be any faster than a CR-1? Sounds like I'm looking at 10-12 months either way.  

 

Well, it all depends on how much time you want to spend together and what work plans in the meantime are.

 

If she wants to work in Canada up until she gets ready to move to the US, then get married first and do the CR1. The average wait is 10-12 months but could be longer. When she arrives after getting the visa she will have her conditional green card already and can start looking for work right away.

 

With the K1 she could still work in Canada until she moved here, but she'd have to wait 3-4 months for the employment authorization afterwards. The K1 visa takes about 6-9 months, but after you get married she gets to stay while going through the green card process (you file for green card and employment authorization simultaneously. AOS takes up to a year, the EAD takes about 3-4 months). On the plus side, not working for 3-4 months would give her a chance to adjust to life in the US.

 

What I'm doing with my Canadian fiancée is the K1. Just like Cryssiekins and her husband.

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No, a K1 would not necessarily (given current processing times) be the fastest route to work authorization (and even longer until GC). Some choose this option because they want to be together as fast as possible, working in the US is less important or because they specifically want to marry in the US (not everyone can obtain a visitor visa). 

If it isn't difficult, it isn't worth it.

 

K1 process

9/24/15: I129f sent

9/30/15: NOA1

11/2/15: NOA2

Delayed processing due to work

3/15/16: Medical

4/28/16: Interview (approved)

Delayed entry due to work

8/12/16: POE Detroit

 

9/4/16: Wedding!

 

AOS process:

9/9/16: I485/I131/I765 sent

9/14/16: Received 3xNOAs by text/e-mail (day 2)

9/14-18/16: Received 3xpaper NOAs 

9/23/16: Received biometrics appointment letter (day 11)

10/3/16: Biometrics appointment (day 19)

11/4/16: EAD+AP approved (day 53)

11/16/16: EAD status changed to card shipped (day 65)

11/17/16: EAD/AP combo card received (day 66)

12/30/16: Notice of interview scheduled (day 109)

2/1/17: AOS interview (day 142) - APPROVED

2/8/17: GC received (day 150)

 

ROC process:

11/3/2018: ROC window opens

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Thanks for the advice everyone :) 

 

Since she's a Canadian citizen and can visit with relative ease, I think we'll go with the CR-1 since she'll get her green card the fastest.  One last question: Let's say we get married in June in Canada, and then both travel back to my home in US -- Can we submit the I-130 while she is physically in the U.S. visiting? 

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23 minutes ago, XPeter3994 said:

Thanks for the advice everyone :) 

 

Since she's a Canadian citizen and can visit with relative ease, I think we'll go with the CR-1 since she'll get her green card the fastest.  One last question: Let's say we get married in June in Canada, and then both travel back to my home in US -- Can we submit the I-130 while she is physically in the U.S. visiting? 

Do not take the 'relative ease" for granted.  There are many folks on here who were denied entry due to an American spouse myself included.  Be sure that she always travels with good ties to her home country.  Also more time out than in is important.  And yes you can file it while she's here 

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Moved from IR-1/CR-1 Process & Procedures to What Visa Do I Need - Family Based Immigration forum.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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As a Canadian I can say that yes, I used to move with ease between the 2 countries before I met my now husband. When you're going through a visa process however, things will change. Canadians are the largest group of visa overstayers in the US.

 

2015-03-07: Got engaged (L)

2015-03-30: Sent I-129F to Dallas lockbox

2015-04-14: NOA1 Packet received, sent to CSC

2015-05-07: NOA2 Approved!

2015-06-15: Received Packet 3 by mail

2015-06-17: Sent Packet 3 to Consulate

2015-07-14: Received Packet 4

2015-08-10: Medical in Toronto

2015-08-16: Received medical envelope

2015-08-24: Montreal interview- APPROVED!

2015-08-27: Visa arrives at Loomis location

2015-08-28: Visa in hand!

2015-09-17: Entered USA

2015-10-23: Married!

2016-01-11: Sent AOS Package I-485, I-765, I-131

2016-01-21: NOA1 Package received

2016-02-19: Biometrics

2016-04-01: AOS interview- APPROVED!

2016-04-07: 2 yr cond green card in hand

2018-03-12: sent ROC

2018-03-19: NOA date, 2018-03-24 letter rec'd

2018-05-18: Biometrics appt waived

2019-06-04 New biometrics letter received

2019-06-10 Biometrics

2019-06-18 ROC Approved
2019-06-25 10 year Green Card in hand

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