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1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

If its the hottest its been in 1000's of years, what made it that hot back then. 

not sure I understand the question 

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When we had dinosaurs   there was lots of CO2 and Texas was underwater.  So this is not and hopefully will not be the hottest. 

 

 The issue today is that the rate of change is very fast and there is a distinct possibility we will have problems adapting in farming, our cities in the path of floods and storms, the areas where folks are living being submerged in a relatively short time, forest fires, drought. 

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3 hours ago, ccneat said:

Seriously?  Let me restate: in the 90s , 60 % of the studies backed the man-made climate change. In this decade 97% of the studies back the premise. There is no 58% and there is no reeking..although I suspect there has been some partaking around here.

Sure many of the climate scientists today write favorably with respect to AGW because that is where the money is at and they need the fund to keep their jobs.

 

Show me the money!  

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49 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Sure many of the climate scientists today write favorably with respect to AGW because that is where the money is at and they need the fund to keep their jobs.

 

Show me the money!  

Not only this but the practice of peer review is a shadow of its former self. It's to a point where opposing papers have difficult time making it into journals. Likewise the standard of publishing papers before they can be reviewed is becoming commonplace. The purpose of this is to throw political weight behind a paper and justify the money it receives.. which too often is taxpayers money, but think tanks are out spending taxpayers now I believe to have their version of science published. 

 

The depth of political inanity from the left is to use the clout science had built up to hijack it and try and get their way. But instead of making people more trusting of science they're creating more skeptics. 

 

If anyone ever tells you things like the debate is over, that's not science. When they try and make it a numbers game to suggest they have overwhelming support for their cause, that's not science. Science is not a political tool yet the left attempt to do as much with it, which is why less people trust the motivations of journals now. Because of the lefts stupidity resonating less and less with their peers, they shift to other tactics like trying to silence others, trying to bully them, preaching doomsday scenarios, all stuff that reeks of desperation from people now on their last leg to stand on. It's unfortunate that the left in their failure are going to take science down with them. If the issue of AGW was as cut and dry as is being pushed by the left, there would be uniformity with the science to show comprehensive understanding, but there isn't. Not even close. It's clear we don't know that much about climate and with the lefts attempts to prevent climatology and related sciences from progressing we may never have that grasp. 

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Just now, IAMX said:

Not only this but the practice of peer review is a shadow of its former self. It's to a point where opposing papers have difficult time making it into journals. Likewise the standard of publishing papers before they can be reviewed is becoming commonplace. The purpose of this is to throw political weight behind a paper and justify the money it receives.. which too often is taxpayers money, but think tanks are out spending taxpayers now I believe to have their version of science published. 

 

The depth of political inanity from the left is to use the clout science had built up to hijack it and try and get their way. But instead of making people more trusting of science they're creating more skeptics. 

 

If anyone ever tells you things like the debate is over, that's not science. When they try and make it a numbers game to suggest they have overwhelming support for their cause, that's not science. Science is not a political tool yet the left attempt to do as much with it, which is why less people trust the motivations of journals now. Because of the lefts stupidity resonating less and less with their peers, they shift to other tactics like trying to silence others, trying to bully them, preaching doomsday scenarios, all stuff that reeks of desperation from people now on their last leg to stand on. It's unfortunate that the left in their failure are going to take science down with them. 

“Science isn’t a democracy. It’s a dictatorship. Evidence does the dictating.”

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Just now, IAMX said:

'% people agree with me.. debate is over"

 

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So how long will we wait for meaningful data to continue this debate you keep talking about? 

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1 hour ago, IAMX said:

Not only this but the practice of peer review is a shadow of its former self. It's to a point where opposing papers have difficult time making it into journals. Likewise the standard of publishing papers before they can be reviewed is becoming commonplace.

This, sadly, is accurate.

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1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

This, sadly, is accurate.

Getting this thread back on topic ( you are welcome)   This is accurate to the point that dissenting views on Climate Change are suppressed ?  97% off all papers agree with the prevailing premise.   

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I definitely read that.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

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09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

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