Showdown looms as Trump demands funding for wall on U.S.-Mexico border

[OriZ 3,157]

50 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

a shame 11% of vermont is brain dead. 

Well, lets not go back to the conversation of not everyone who thinks differently than you is brain dead. Anyway, in VT he did better than that, I was just talking about the burlington area since his rally was about a minute WALKING distance from our shop. But we live in Milton where he got I think like around 38% of the votes. Burlington is by far the most liberal "city" in VT. We actually had a couple of counties in the north east kingdom(right by the border with NH - it is the most conservative area in vt) who voted for him over Clinton.

Edited April 24, 2017 by OriZ

[smilesammich 10,727]

15 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Well, lets not go back to the conversation of not everyone who thinks differently than you is brain dead. Anyway, in VT he did better than that, I was just talking about the burlington area since his rally was about a minute WALKING distance from our shop. But we live in Milton where he got I think like around 38% of the votes. Burlington is by far the most liberal "city" in VT. We actually had a couple of counties in the north east kingdom(right by the border with NH - it is the most conservative area in vt) who voted for him over Clinton.

ok, sorry more than 11% of vermont is brain dead. build that wall!!

[CaliCat 3,957]

56 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

ok, sorry more than 11% of vermont is brain dead. build that wall!!

 

There is also the change that many on the audience were bussed in from other parts of the country. 

[IAMX 3,055]

1 hour ago, OriZ said:

Well, lets not go back to the conversation of not everyone who thinks differently than you is brain dead. Anyway, in VT he did better than that, I was just talking about the burlington area since his rally was about a minute WALKING distance from our shop. But we live in Milton where he got I think like around 38% of the votes. Burlington is by far the most liberal "city" in VT. We actually had a couple of counties in the north east kingdom(right by the border with NH - it is the most conservative area in vt) who voted for him over Clinton.

Science. 

[Shiobhan 235]

If there are no buyers then sellers will die,on  this side drug promotion is

isa culture, a child act up , give them a pill, I feel a bit down take a narcotic,

this is a nation with a culture to dope up. Arrest that problem and attack

the corruption here then we will begin to see some changes,slow but it can

happen, the war on drugs have fail. Give marijuana the same permits as

alcohol and the dealers will lose {Personally I am not for alcohol or weed}

As to those coming over treat Mexico fairly like Canada and with good 

opportunities there many will stay home. Mexico also needs to be locking

the other side of their border from other S American countries where cartels

and gangs are taking over their country adding to their mysery

[IAMX 3,055]

6 minutes ago, Shiobhan said:

If there are no buyers then sellers will die,on  this side drug promotion is

isa culture, a child act up , give them a pill, I feel a bit down take a narcotic,

this is a nation with a culture to dope up. Arrest that problem and attack

the corruption here then we will begin to see some changes,slow but it can

happen, the war on drugs have fail. Give marijuana the same permits as

alcohol and the dealers will lose {Personally I am not for alcohol or weed}

As to those coming over treat Mexico fairly like Canada and with good 

opportunities there many will stay home. Mexico also needs to be locking

the other side of their border from other S American countries where cartels

and gangs are taking over their country adding to their mysery

Well sure, if Canadians want to disregard US law as much as those from Mexico do, I'd indeed suggest treat them the same. Suggesting they be treated equally without regard to actions is simply inane. But that's the left's logic nonetheless. 

Edited April 24, 2017 by IAMX

[OriZ 3,157]

40 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Science. 

I for one am perfectly comfortable with accepting that other people may have a different opinion than I do and oftentimes they can be very intelligent people. It's what makes the world go round. I think it's absurd to create a link between views and intelligence.

[IAMX 3,055]

2 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I for one am perfectly comfortable with accepting that other people may have a different opinion than I do and oftentimes they can be very intelligent people. It's what makes the world go round. I think it's absurd to create a link between views and intelligence.

Well, one political view has aligned themselves with the notion of "science" and "logic", yet with such terrible arguments it's clear this is just a marketing gimmick played out horribly.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, OriZ said:

I think it's absurd to create a link between views and intelligence.

maybe that's why we're in this trump mess, failure to see the correlation between an educated electorate and a capable body of government.

[OriZ 3,157]

25 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

maybe that's why we're in this trump mess, failure to see the correlation between an educated electorate and a capable body of government.

Hmmm nope. I've seen many people in my life educated and uneducated alike. I think it was in high school when I realized people with different views than yours aren't necessarily less educated or less intelligent than you.

[IAMX 3,055]

4 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Hmmm nope. I've seen many people in my life educated and uneducated alike. I think it was in high school when I realized people with different views than yours aren't necessarily less educated or less intelligent than you.

It's funny, I used to be Christian up until high school. 

 

Then I was an atheist. Somewhere between there and being agnostic, I had this thought process that the world would be better without religion.

 

But as I get older, the left constantly remind me that the stupidity associated with religious-like dogma is not something that would go away if religions did.

 

So since that point I'm still happily agnostic but I've grown out of this view that those who don't think like me are uneducated, and wishing they went away. I think in a decade or two the old-man syndrome will probably hit me and I'll just hate everyone equally.

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Hmmm nope. I've seen many people in my life educated and uneducated alike. I think it was in high school when I realized people with different views than yours aren't necessarily less educated or less intelligent than you.

and i have a different view, how i see it - refusing to acknowledge the importance of facts and basic intelligence are why we're in this trump mess. 

but yeah, lets build a wall! it will save us so much money! and mexico is paying for it, whether they pay for it or not! <----you know why trump supporters buy this bs? no respect for facts, no basic ability to hone fact from fiction.

 

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

3 minutes ago, IAMX said:

It's funny, I used to be Christian up until high school. 

 

Then I was an atheist. Somewhere between there and being agnostic, I had this thought process that the world would be better without religion.

 

But as I get older, the left constantly remind me that the stupidity associated with religious-like dogma is not something that would go away if religions did.

 

So since that point I'm still happily agnostic but I've grown out of this view that those who don't think like me are uneducated, and wishing they went away. I think in a decade or two the old-man syndrome will probably hit me and I'll just hate everyone equally.

and i'll call bs here too, since just about every post you make attempts to belittle the intelligence of 'the left' 

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

27 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

and i'll call bs here too, since just about every post you make attempts to belittle the intelligence of 'the left' 

 

Your use of the word attempts is quite lose there. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

Your use of the word attempts is quite lose there. 

comes with the liberal territory