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3 minutes ago, bcking said:

A democratic election would be, as you state, an election by the populace. 

 

A democratic election therefore would not elect someone who did not obtain a majority of the vote of the populace.

 

Our system allows for that to happen because it is not a purely democratic process. You can try to cover the fact that you were wrong by saying it "doesn't matter", but you not caring doesn't mean the distinction isn't important.

 

I'll just leave it at that since this is going nowhere.

It was Democratic in the sense that he was elected by the majority of the States which is just as important.

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6 minutes ago, bcking said:

A democratic election would be, as you state, an election by the populace. 

 

A democratic election therefore would not elect someone who did not obtain a majority of the vote of the populace.

 

Our system allows for that to happen because it is not a purely democratic process. You can try to cover the fact that you were wrong by saying it "doesn't matter", but you not caring doesn't mean the distinction isn't important.

 

I'll just leave it at that since this is going nowhere.

https://www.ait.org.tw/infousa/zhtw/DOCS/whatsdem/whatdm5.htm

What Are Democratic Elections?

Jeane Kirkpatrick, scholar and former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, has offered this definition: "Democratic elections are not merely symbolic....They are competitive, periodic, inclusive, definitive elections in which the chief decision-makers in a government are selected by citizens who enjoy broad freedom to criticize government, to publish their criticism and to present alternatives."



 

What do Kirkpatrick's criteria mean? Democratic elections are competitive. Opposition parties and candidates must enjoy the freedom of speech, assembly, and movement necessary to voice their criticisms of the government openly and to bring alternative policies and candidates to the voters. Simply permitting the opposition access to the ballot is not enough. Elections in which the opposition is barred from the airwaves, has its rallies harassed or its newspapers censored, are not democratic. The party in power may enjoy the advantages of incumbency, but the rules and conduct of the election contest must be fair.

 

Democratic elections are periodic. Democracies do not elect dictators or presidents-for-life. Elected officials are accountable to the people, and they must return to the voters at prescribed intervals to seek their mandate to continue in office. This means that officials in a democracy must accept the risk of being voted out of office. The one exception is judges who, to insulate them against popular pressure and help ensure their impartiality, may be appointed for life and removed only for serious improprieties.

 

Democratic elections are inclusive. The definition of citizen and voter must be large enough to include a large proportion of the adult population. A government chosen by a small, exclusive group is not a democracy--no matter how democratic its internal workings may appear. One of the great dramas of democracy throughout history has been the struggle of excluded groups--whether racial, ethnic, or religious minorities, or women--to win full citizenship, and with it the right to vote and hold office. In the United States, for example, only white male property holders enjoyed the right to elect and be elected when the Constitution was signed in 1787. The property qualification disappeared by the early 19th century, and women won the right to vote in 1920. Black Americans, however, did not enjoy full voting rights in the southern United States until the civil rights movement of the 1960s. And finally, in 1971, younger citizens were given the right to vote when the United States lowered the voting age from 21 to 18.

 

Democratic elections are definitive. They determine the leadership of the government. Subject to the laws and constitution of the country, popularly elected representatives hold the reins of power. They are not simply figureheads or symbolic leaders.

 

That's the widely understood criteria. Says nothing about pluralities, majorities, nor safeguards against majority tyranny that the US employs federally. It even includes state level direct democracy which is prevalent in every single state. Quite a number of countries democratically elect their leaders and they do so in a plurality, so under your narrow criteria they wouldn't fall under this category either. Not smart.

 

So while I would agree that the US is a Constitutional Republic, the notion of democratically electing people has it's own meaning separate of the technicalities you wish to pedant upon. You aren't gonna win vs the entire world, but I wish you luck.

 

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