Police arrest at least 20 as protesters clash at pro-Trump rally in Berkeley

[OriZ 3,157]

1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

Yep. That's how low we as a nation have sunk. It's disgusting.

I guess some people would these days. But I wonder how many of them could look their wives and daughters in the eye and tell them ''nah it's okay to let that Nazi punch you, you probably deserved it anyway for telling them how horrible they are.. you surely did something to provoke a Nazi that would be perfectly happy to murder us all where we sleep" I tend to think there's a lot of big talk around these parts, but when 'push comes to shove' they'd do anything they could to protect their women, at least I hope so.

...or anyone for that matter. But the fact that there are some in society that say it's totally okay to punch a woman for whatever reason they see fit, really speaks volumes.

It is never warranted to assault someone. No one should be touching each other. Usually that type of thing should end you up in jail. How many immigrants are on the effects forum claiming ''she made me do it and now she's threatening me with jail, will it effect my status?" No one made you use physical force. You don't touch one another. Period. If someone touches you, you don't touch them. If they have a weapon and you can successfully disarm/disable them sure. But punch them in the face because their words hurt your feelings? No. And I am continually disappointed that on this forum no one can ever once take a step back and stop defending the most despicable of these supporters, even if the people they assault have viewpoints you don't agree with. Because had we as a nation been like that during WWII, none of us would be alive right now.

We live in an eye for an eye society apparently, which is just how the fascists would want it.

No. There are no appropriate situations. You and the ''boys'' got into an argument with rednecks? Okay? Why? Was it worth it? How about doing the right thing and walking away. How about not escalating the situation? What provoked the lady to pull the gun? Did someone get all threatening that she felt the need to protect her kin? Did anyone go to jail? Redneck brawls happen weekly around these parts - threatening with weapons and assaulting people usually lands both parties in jail for a sobering up.

My wife or daughter would know better than to behave that way so there would be no need to tell them anything. I personally, and I started my first post on this with that, don't advocate punching a woman, nor anyone for that matter. Throughout my life I have not been very violent and not gotten into many fights at all. I also said I personally would not hit someone back unless I had to defend myself. That said, again, I believe people should be judged based on their actions. So you can't go around acting all tough among men and thinking that being born a "woman" is going to shield you. The behavior to me is alot more important than the anatomy. If you think you can take on men, don't whine when you face consequences. So many feminists out there want to eat the cake and have it too. Ladies should be treated like ladies and should never be touched. Men should be treated like men, even if it's a woman acting like a man. 

 

I never said anybody should punch someone in the face because their words hurt them, man or woman. I was only talking about actions. And I'm not sure what you mean by no one can stop defending the most despicable of the supporters, most of us never even defended them in the first place. 

[yuna628 9,665]

5 minutes ago, IAMX said:

Why would anyone need to take off Good Friday? 

 

Because there are many people that are required to work on Good Friday. I can't ever remember a time that has been a day off of work.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 minute ago, IAMX said:

FTFY

I wasn't going in that direction..but hey it looks like this is you lucky day 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 minute ago, OriZ said:

 . And I'm not sure what you mean by no one can stop defending the most despicable of the supporters, most of us never even defended them in the first place. 

but many on this thread did, go back and read it.  

[OriZ 3,157]

5 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

 

11 minutes ago, ccneat said:

but many on this thread did, go back and read it.  

I just did. I see cyberfx saying she had it coming. OK, that's probably the closest to anybody defending it, but he even still didn't say it was the right thing or the awesome thing to do or that the guy's a hero(unlike some on the left who would consider someone a hero for punching an alt right person in the face although I wonder how they would feel if they were a woman? hmmmmmmm). Other than that - Bill and I both clearly said and started our sentence with "I don't advocate violence against women". Others did not come out and outright condone nor condemn it. Kinda hard to call that "defending them".

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, OriZ said:

I just did. I see cyberfx saying she had it coming. OK, that's probably the closest to anybody defending it, but he even still didn't say it was the right thing or the awesome thing to do or that the guy's a hero(unlike some on the left who would consider someone a hero for punching an alt right person in the face although I wonder how they would feel if they were a woman? hmmmmmmm). Other than that - Bill and I both clearly said and started our sentence with "I don't advocate violence against women". Others did not come out and outright condone nor condemn it. Kinda hard to call that "defending them".

Why are we focused on one incident..a woman getting punched in the face, when we are talking about the fact that folks on this thread have doubled down in support of Anti-Semitic White Supremacist groups who ran the show in the Berkeley protest instead of disavowing them.  Are they really apart of this MAGA movement?  I thought we were past this with Bannon half way out the door. 

[OriZ 3,157]

6 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Why are we focused on one incident..a woman getting punched in the face, when we are talking about the fact that folks on this thread have doubled down in support of Anti-Semitic White Supremacist groups who ran the show in the Berkeley protest instead of disavowing them.  Are they really apart of this MAGA movement?  I thought we were past this with Bannon half way out the door. 

Ok, I still don't see where me, naitch, Bill, or really most here support anti semitic white supremacist groups - it's simply not true. 

[spookyturtle 9,465]

9 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Ummm, does 2009 through 2011 ring any bells?  This is how the ACA was passed with not a single GOP vote.

Off topic, but isn't it ironic that the GOP abhorred the ACA and now they control all three branches of the government and can't  even bring a replacement to the floor? 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, spookyturtle said:

Off topic, but isn't it ironic that the GOP abhorred the ACA and now they control all three branches of the government and can't  even bring a replacement to the floor? 

Off topic, but funnier than all get out

[OriZ 3,157]

2 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

Off topic, but isn't it ironic that the GOP abhorred the ACA and now they control all three branches of the government and can't  even bring a replacement to the floor? 

You're a couple weeks late, we already said what we think about that in its own thread dude. Get with the program will ya.

[OriZ 3,157]

Here's some more insanity...oh wait it's Fox so it must be fake.

 

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/04/12/student-calls-out-university-dorms-white-privilege-checklist-board

[IAMX 3,055]

10 minutes ago, ccneat said:

Why are we focused on one incident..a woman getting punched in the face, when we are talking about the fact that folks on this thread have doubled down in support of Anti-Semitic White Supremacist groups who ran the show in the Berkeley protest instead of disavowing them.  Are they really apart of this MAGA movement?  I thought we were past this with Bannon half way out the door. 

Trump was called every name in the book (racist, misogynist, Islamophobic, etc.) well before Bannon was in the picture. That's an issue for the left to deal with. 

[IAMX 3,055]

4 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Here's some more insanity...oh wait it's Fox so it must be fake.

 

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/04/12/student-calls-out-university-dorms-white-privilege-checklist-board

these are hilarious. 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

12 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Ok, I still don't see where me, naitch, Bill, or really most here support anti semitic white supremacist groups - it's simply not true. 

Here are some shots from this weekend...but maybe these are the antifa folks in disguise

 

 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

12 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Here's some more insanity...oh wait it's Fox so it must be fake.

 

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/04/12/student-calls-out-university-dorms-white-privilege-checklist-board

How is that related to the events in Berkeley ?