Police arrest at least 20 as protesters clash at pro-Trump rally in Berkeley

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1 minute ago, IAMX said:

It's prominent with small businesses in the US. In Canada Friday is a Stat holiday and companies tend to give Mondays off as well. Sometimes one can pick which is which. 

Ya the UK has both Friday and Monday as bank holidays.

 

In any case, my original point was just that you can't argue one group is a bunch of degenerates with no jobs just because they showed up to the protest on the Friday, but say that it doesn't apply to the other group who are also present on the very same day.

 

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Just now, bcking said:

Ya the UK has both Friday and Monday as bank holidays.

 

In any case, my original point was just that you can't argue one group is a bunch of degenerates with no jobs just because they showed up to the protest on the Friday, but say that it doesn't apply to the other group who are also present on the very same day.

 

Yes you can 

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Just now, Nature Boy Flair said:

Yes you can 

Oh jeez you are so wise and I'm overwhelmed by your impeccably well constructed argument that is not illogical or contradictory at all.

 

I stand corrected

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1 minute ago, bcking said:

Ya the UK has both Friday and Monday as bank holidays.

 

In any case, my original point was just that you can't argue one group is a bunch of degenerates with no jobs just because they showed up to the protest on the Friday, but say that it doesn't apply to the other group who are also present on the very same day.

 

I didn't argue that though.. Good Friday is typically a day decent companies will offer off (US), so it's kinda funny that people would need to take that day off. Not that I think many of these protesting and marching leftists are working to begin with. 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

2 minutes ago, bcking said:

Oh jeez you are so wise and I'm overwhelmed by your impeccably well constructed argument that is not illogical or contradictory at all.

 

I stand corrected

You can stand corrected just dont stand between me and the door 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

In other shocking and impeachment worth news, I hear one of Trumps resorts in Las Vegas had someone slip and fall. Impeach the tyrant now 

You started this thread with some broad strokes labeling liberals some sort of Nazis (not sure how, i guess all intollerant folks are Nazis).  No one backed the AntiFa protestors. Then we showed you some real White Nationalists including one sucker punching a petite lady and it didn't matter, she probably had it coming.  Then we showed anti Semitic posters and the defense is those pro-trump supporters are not as bad as some kid getting his hat knocked off.  

 

So now we are zig zagging over to Trumps impeachment?  It seems like only Trump supporters keep bringing up impeachment. 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

2 minutes ago, IAMX said:

I didn't argue that though.. Good Friday is typically a day decent companies will offer off (US), so it's kinda funny that people would need to take that day off. Not that I think many of these protesting and marching leftists are working to begin with. 

What percent of occupy protesters  vs Tea Party have jobs ?   I don't need a pie chart to tell me when water is falling from the sky and my head is wet, it is raining 

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2 minutes ago, IAMX said:

I didn't argue that though.. Good Friday is typically a day decent companies will offer off (US), so it's kinda funny that people would need to take that day off. Not that I think many of these protesting and marching leftists are working to begin with. 

Yes but I also didn't quote you initially. I was quoting someone else commenting that people they know work for a living so wouldn't be present at the protest.

 

However yet again - I'd say it's equally likely that the "protesting and marching rightests" don't have jobs either. Wasn't the guy who punched the girl just some "student", which is the stereotypical "leftist" protestor persona?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 minute ago, ccneat said:

You started this thread with some broad strokes labeling liberals some sort of Nazis (not sure how, i guess all intollerant folks are Nazis).  No one backed the AntiFa protestors. Then we showed you some real White Nationalists including one sucker punching a petite lady and it didn't matter, she probably had it coming.  Then we showed anti Semitic posters and the defense is those pro-trump supporters are not as bad as some kid getting his hat knocked off.  

 

So now we are zig zagging over to Trumps impeachment?  It seems like only Trump supporters keep bringing up impeachment. 

Darn I scrolled up and I did start this thread.  One thing about the Nature Boy. He starts the hot threads. 

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1 minute ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

What percent of occupy protesters  vs Tea Party have jobs ?   I don't need a pie chart to tell me when water is falling from the sky and my head is wet, it is raining 

With No Jobs, Plenty of Time for Tea Party

By KATE ZERNIKEMARCH 27, 2010

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Tea Party supporters rallied Saturday in Searchlight, Nev., Senator Harry Reid’s hometown.CreditJim Wilson/The New York Times

SOUTH BEND, Ind. — When Tom Grimes lost his job as a financial consultant 15 months ago, he called his congressman, a Democrat, for help getting government health care.

Then he found a new full-time occupation: Tea Party activist.

In the last year, he has organized a local group and a statewide coalition, and even started a “bus czar” Web site to marshal protesters to Washington on short notice. This month, he mobilized 200 other Tea Party activists to go to the local office of the same congressman to protest what he sees as the government’s takeover of health care.

Mr. Grimes is one of many Tea Party members jolted into action by economic distress. At rallies, gatherings and training sessions in recent months, activists often tell a similar story in interviews: they had lost their jobs, or perhaps watched their homes plummet in value, and they found common cause in the Tea Party’s fight for lower taxes and smaller government.

The Great Depression, too, mobilized many middle-class people who had fallen on hard times. Though, as Michael Kazin, the author of “The Populist Persuasion,” notes, they tended to push for more government involvement. The Tea Party vehemently wants less — though a number of its members acknowledge that they are relying on government programs for help.

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Mr. Grimes, who receives Social Security, has filled the back seat of his Mercury Grand Marquis with the literature of the movement, including Glenn Beck’s “Arguing With Idiots” and Frederic Bastiat’s “The Law,” which denounces public benefits as “false philanthropy.”

“If you quit giving people that stuff, they would figure out how to do it on their own,” Mr. Grimes said.

The fact that many of them joined the Tea Party after losing their jobs raises questions of whether the movement can survive an improvement in the economy, with people trading protest signs for paychecks.

But for now, some are even putting their savings into work that they argue is more important than a job — planning candidate forums and get-out-the-vote operations, researching arguments about the constitutional limits on Congress and using Facebook to attract recruits.

“Even if I wanted to stop, I just can’t,” said Diana Reimer, 67, who has become a star of the effort by FreedomWorks, a Tea Party group, to fight the health care overhaul. “I’m on a mission, and time is not on my side.”

A year ago, Ms. Reimer’s husband had been given a choice — retire or be fired. The couple had been trying to sell their split-level home in suburban Philadelphia to pay off some debt and move to a small place in the city.

But real estate agents told them the home would sell for about $40,000 less than they paid 19 years ago — not enough to pay off their mortgage.

Then Ms. Reimer saw a story about the Tea Party on television. “I said, ‘That’s it,’ ” she recalled. “How can you get this frustration out, have your voices heard?”

She liked that the Tea Party was patriotic, too. “They said the Pledge of Allegiance and sang the national anthem,” she said.

She had taken a job selling sportswear at Macy’s. But when her husband found her up early and late taking care of Tea Party business, he urged her to take a leave. When the store did not allow one, she quit.

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“I guess I just found my calling,” she said.

Ms. Reimer, now a national coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots, also found a community. Directing protesters to Congressional offices on Capitol Hill before the vote on health care this month, Representative Steve King, an Iowa Republican who has become a Tea Party hero, stopped to welcome her by name. “I should have known you’d be here,” he said, embracing her.

A Tea Party member from North Carolina recognized Ms. Reimer from Massachusetts, where she led crews knocking on doors in the snow for Scott Brown, the state’s new Republican senator. “Our slave master,” the man said, greeting her.

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1 minute ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

What percent of occupy protesters  vs Tea Party have jobs ?   I don't need a pie chart to tell me when water is falling from the sky and my head is wet, it is raining 

The people present at this Berkeley protest aren't Tea Party. Aren't the Tea Party so like...4 years ago? Are they even relevant anymore?

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1 minute ago, bcking said:

The people present at this Berkeley protest aren't Tea Party. Aren't the Tea Party so like...4 years ago? Are they even relevant anymore?

Hush...NB thinks he is on a roll

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

3 minutes ago, bcking said:

The people present at this Berkeley protest aren't Tea Party. Aren't the Tea Party so like...4 years ago? Are they even relevant anymore?

Next you will tell me I need to throw all of these looks out..

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, ccneat said:

Next you will tell me I need to throw all of these looks out..

 

 

 

 

 

The 4th one (2nd from right) is something that you could probably still see on the streets.

 

The rest you should throw out.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

6 minutes ago, bcking said:

The people present at this Berkeley protest aren't Tea Party. Aren't the Tea Party so like...4 years ago? Are they even relevant anymore?

What the people at Berkeley are not  Tea Party. Well shut my mouth. Are you seeing things ? Peyote perhaps. Who said they were ?

 

They were not occupy wall street either.

 

Geez 

Edited April 18, 2017 by Nature Boy Flair