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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Morocco
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Listen. You seem hell bent on getting him in trouble, despite the fact we all have said trouble will come his way when he has to remove conditions on his own.

 

Even lying under oath is typically just misrepresenting, but not material misrepresentation which involves documents and actual fraud. 

 

Asking and pressing for money don't equal fraud. It equals what Moroccans call weld maafoun, dirty boys. We have men in America who leech off women as well, it happens all over. Pressing for marriage isn't fraud either, not unless you have the exact words of "I want to marry just to come to America" 

 

IMO, you best just relax on it all and walk away before you start something that you could get sucked into as well in a bad way. You knew about all this with other women. Don't you think uscis would take that into account as well? Like maybe turn an eye to you and think you were a co scammer....I wouldn't want to risk going down with the ship on that one. 

 

 

 

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**Adjusting from initial Q1/changed to B1 then overstay, termination of removal proceedings**

(STAND ALONE i-130/TERMINATION OF REMOVAL)

First met: Totally random by asking for directions, June 2014 while on vacation at Disney World (L)

Engaged: Aug. 21, 2014

Married: Dec. 1, 2014

ICE phone contact: sometime in early Dec. 2014- Co-operated, retained attorney who advised the same.

Filed stand alone i-130: January 2015 (VSC)

ICE home visit, schedule time to go to DHS office and NTA issued, date TBD, was not detained and released on own recognizance within an hour: January, 2015.

NOA1: Feb. 20, 2015.

Transfer to CSC to balance workloads: August 2015

1)First Master Calendar Hearing: Sept. 9, 2015-Continued based on pending i-130, new court date in 6mo.

Congressional Inquiry: Dec 8. 2015

***i-130 APPROVED WITHOUT INTERVIEW: Dec. 21, 2015** :dancing:

2)Second Master Hearing: March 9, 2016- Removal proceedings terminated w/o prejudice based on approved i-130!! Remanded to USCIS to begin AOS process :dance:

(AOS AFTER TERMINATION)

Filed AOS packet: March 16, 2016.

NOA1: March 21, 2016.

Biometrics: April 20, 2016.

RFE Initial evidence: April 21, 2016 for birth cert/translation and Q1/B1 i94s

RFE response received: May 10, 2016.

EAD approval: May 25, 2016- Card arrived at attorney's office! Could not pick up until May 30 because we were at Disney World again :):D

Notice of missing medical exam: July 2016 (Done on purpose to avoid expiration, we will bring it to the interview as stated in notice)

Inquiry about case status: Sept 2016- Case pending interview at local office.

Inquiry about case status again: Oct. 2016- Due to factors not related to your case, anticipate a delay in processing

HAPPY 2YR ANNIVERSARY TO US!!

Infopass #1 at local office: Dec. 19, 2016- Case pending background/security checks, advised when to renew EAD #2

Waiting on interview at local office...... :clock:

Sent EAD renewal: Feb 10, 2016

EAD#2 NOA1: March 3, 2016

INTERVIEW SCHEDULED!!: interview on March 27, 2017

Text notification, new card being produced: March 29, 2017!!!

*~*~*~*818 DAYS TOTAL*~*~*~

"A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor."

 
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1 hour ago, JFH said:

Well you certainly didn't think there was anything suspicious or fraudulent. You married him after all, despite his past. So you were comfortable enough about it all. Why would you expect anyone else to find it suspicious? 

as everyone has said to you - its evidence that you lack.  Of course there is a lot obvious on what's happened- but lacks hardcore evidence.

 

do keep us posted with Infopass on what happens so you can help other women/men in similair situation.

 

Ignoring so many red flags will make you party to his wrongdoing - such as lies under oath

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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Just move on and don't waste your time.  As someone who had pure proof of

fraud it's not high on ICE list to round up people who cheated and yes I had emails and letters from my ex and his friends speaking of flat out fraud and continuing to ask me to commit fraud with him by keeping him here for 2 years and letting him live else where.  Cheating does not equal fraud...lying and begging to get money does not equal fraud.  You can go for the info pass but I'm sure they will tell you what they told me "we don't have the man power to go look for this guy and we will put the info you gave us in his file." I knew where he was living and staying they didn't need man power to go get him.  Just let it go. As someone who went through this it is not worth the time or energy. 

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2 hours ago, JFH said:

Well you certainly didn't think there was anything suspicious or fraudulent. You married him after all, despite his past. So you were comfortable enough about it all. Why would you expect anyone else to find it suspicious? 

Quite a bit I am sharing was found out way after the fact. So no, I didn't marry knowing all of that 

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1 hour ago, carebearh707 said:

Quite a bit I am sharing was found out way after the fact. So no, I didn't marry knowing all of that 

You are not making sense. You started this whole thread to ask if you are going to have any consequences for knowing about these other relationships and whether you should even mention at the Infopass appointment that you knew about them. Now you are trying to tell us you didn't know about them. You will need to get your story straight if you are planning on reporting him for "fraud".

 

Essentially what has happened is you have fallen for the oldest trick in the book. You've been a fool. You've been sucked in by a man promising you undying love within a very short time of meeting and you have invested a lot of time, emotion, energy and money to bring him into the country. And now you feel stupid that he is laughing at you that you fell for it and he got what he wanted so you want everyone to think you are a victim of fraud, not just a naive person who fell for his game. 

 

USCIS won't do anything. They can spot the difference between real fraud and people wanting revenge to cover up their embarrassment at their naivety.

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

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It is endemic in this area, I know a lady who has spent a lot of time over there finishing a PHD, she was laughing about it, even a term for the men who do it which I forget. Computer Cafe's full of such people.

 

And I certainly thought you were aware of his previous liaisons?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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15 minutes ago, Boiler said:

It is endemic in this area, I know a lady who has spent a lot of time over there finishing a PHD, she was laughing about it, even a term for the men who do it which I forget. Computer Cafe's full of such people.

 

And I certainly thought you were aware of his previous liaisons?

Weld maafoun. Dirty boys, that's the term. 

**Adjusting from initial Q1/changed to B1 then overstay, termination of removal proceedings**

(STAND ALONE i-130/TERMINATION OF REMOVAL)

First met: Totally random by asking for directions, June 2014 while on vacation at Disney World (L)

Engaged: Aug. 21, 2014

Married: Dec. 1, 2014

ICE phone contact: sometime in early Dec. 2014- Co-operated, retained attorney who advised the same.

Filed stand alone i-130: January 2015 (VSC)

ICE home visit, schedule time to go to DHS office and NTA issued, date TBD, was not detained and released on own recognizance within an hour: January, 2015.

NOA1: Feb. 20, 2015.

Transfer to CSC to balance workloads: August 2015

1)First Master Calendar Hearing: Sept. 9, 2015-Continued based on pending i-130, new court date in 6mo.

Congressional Inquiry: Dec 8. 2015

***i-130 APPROVED WITHOUT INTERVIEW: Dec. 21, 2015** :dancing:

2)Second Master Hearing: March 9, 2016- Removal proceedings terminated w/o prejudice based on approved i-130!! Remanded to USCIS to begin AOS process :dance:

(AOS AFTER TERMINATION)

Filed AOS packet: March 16, 2016.

NOA1: March 21, 2016.

Biometrics: April 20, 2016.

RFE Initial evidence: April 21, 2016 for birth cert/translation and Q1/B1 i94s

RFE response received: May 10, 2016.

EAD approval: May 25, 2016- Card arrived at attorney's office! Could not pick up until May 30 because we were at Disney World again :):D

Notice of missing medical exam: July 2016 (Done on purpose to avoid expiration, we will bring it to the interview as stated in notice)

Inquiry about case status: Sept 2016- Case pending interview at local office.

Inquiry about case status again: Oct. 2016- Due to factors not related to your case, anticipate a delay in processing

HAPPY 2YR ANNIVERSARY TO US!!

Infopass #1 at local office: Dec. 19, 2016- Case pending background/security checks, advised when to renew EAD #2

Waiting on interview at local office...... :clock:

Sent EAD renewal: Feb 10, 2016

EAD#2 NOA1: March 3, 2016

INTERVIEW SCHEDULED!!: interview on March 27, 2017

Text notification, new card being produced: March 29, 2017!!!

*~*~*~*818 DAYS TOTAL*~*~*~

"A smooth sea never made a skilled sailor."

 
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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Vietnam
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2 hours ago, carebearh707 said:

Quite a bit I am sharing was found out way after the fact. So no, I didn't marry knowing all of that 

Either way, it changes NOTHING! There is NOTHING you can do to make things any harder on him than it already will be. By you getting involved, the ONLY thing you can do is make your life harder and actually make it harder to prosecute him. Simple as that. I know you crave revenge, hell if I was in your shoes I would dream of revenge. I would daydream of seeing him thrown in jail to rot for the pain he caused. The truth is, that will just have to remain a dream. That being said, don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Do what you need to do to get his ### kicked out of the country and take solace in that he is an idiot and he is stuck back in the country he so desperately wishes to flee. 

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09/24/2016 - I-129F Packet Submitted, 09/26/2016 - NOA1, 10/27/2016 - RFE Received

11/02/2016 - RFE Reply sent

11/09/2016 - NOA2

11/21/2016 - NVC Receives packet

12/12/2016 - Case left NVC for BKK Consulate

01/10/2017 - After travelling via the slowest route possible (likely via carrier pigeon) BKK Consulate receives packet

01/16/2017 - Packet 3 Instructions received 02/28/2017 - Packet 3 Instructions Completed

03/05/2017 - Packet 4 received (now the fun begins) --> 03/29/2017 - Interview disappears from the schedule on the embassy website -->03/30/2017 - She goes to her interview, is told they need to verify her documents since she is Vietnamese interviewing in Thailand, receives a 221G with 'Verification of Viet documents' as the reason. Gave back her passport.-->03/31/2017-04/04/2017 - Case is being continuously touched. We suspect that our case was approved at this point but they didn't have her passport. --> 04/10/2017 (10 days after interview) - Email emabssy to inquire about updates and if there was anything we could do to move things forward. (3h later) - She is told that she is approved and to expect her passport soon (how when they don't have it in their posession?) After clarification, instructed to send our passport to them. Ship out passport in a rush to beat Songkran (which failed) --> 04/11/2017 - Passport at embassy according to Thai Post Office --> 04/17/2017 - Emailed to confirm they received the passport. They issued an evasive answer about Songkran backlog (they love evasive non-committal answers)--> 04/24/2017  Evening - Case changes from Immigrant Visa to Non-Immigrant Visa and a new case created date is given --? 04/25/2017 morning  (less than 12h later) - Case flies through Ready -->Admin Processing --> Issued

04/26/2017 - Checks mail, passport is there. No mention of it being mailed out. 

05/02/2017 - Arrives in the USA, without Issue

06/17/2017 - Marriage!

AOS

7/01/17- Mailed AOS packet to Chicago

7/03/17- Packet received

07/07/17 - SMS and Email notification of NOA1 for AoS, EAD, and AP

07/13/17 - Received paper copies of NOA1 for AoS, EAD, and AP

07/21/17 - Received Biometrics Appointment Letter

08/02/17 - Biometrics Appointment Completed 

11/04/17 - EAD Approved - New Card Is Ready For Production

11/09/17 - AP Approved, EAD - Card Produced Awaiting Mailing, EAD - Card Has Been Mailed.

11/13/17 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received. 

11/05/2018 - Received SMS Notification that Interview Has Been Scheduled

11/10/2018 - Received Paper Interview Notice

12/11/2018 - Interview Date
12/12/2018 - Approved

ROC

11/18/2020 - Mailed ROC packet

11/20/2020 - Packet received

01/16/2021 - Received NOA1 

05/28/2021 - Biometrics Waived

08/04/2021 - ROC Approved

08/11/2021 - GC received

 

Citizenship

09/15/2021 - N-400 Filed Electronically, NOA-1 received, Biometrics Waiver Received

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5 hours ago, carebearh707 said:

Quite a bit I am sharing was found out way after the fact. So no, I didn't marry knowing all of that 

You have to realize unless you can show documented proof where he said he only married you or entered a relationship for a green card it won't mean anything. I surely would at least report to USCIS that he has left and you know not where. So his case file will be flagged when he does decide to Remove conditions to get 10 year green card it will be  flagged for abandonment or whatever they do from day one.
I know many women who just move on do nothing, not even divorce figuring they don't divorce he's trapped to never be able to file for another or ROC or do anything. Then guess what in 3 years he files and gets to be a US citizen. Not like USCIS cares or verifies.

 

Side note I never understood how someone you never meet can force you into paying money or marriage (talking about what you said about these other women). And how were you able to get all the intel on them yet you continued with this man?

 

Remember he can always flip it on you and say he left because of abuse (mental, physical) you would be surprised. It really is he said/she said.

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2/27/2020: Combo Interview (ROC and Citizenship)
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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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Carebear - I get it that you are angry and that you are hurting.  I'd probably be in jail if I were in your shoes, because I'd hunt down the "dirty boy" and show him what "dirty" means.

 

But you don't have that option.  File for divorce.  Now.  Get it over with before ROC comes up.  If you go to InfoPass, then state what YOUR experience has been.  If other women have filed for him, it's in his record.

 

You are neither the first or last wo/man this has happened to.  Get yourself in the clear, and then move on.  Do not contact him, do not accept emails from him.  Make sure you have all the important documents in YOUR hands.

 

What I am advocating is self-preservation on your part.  Getting the InfoPass appointment might be helpful to you - to tell your story.  It will go in his file.  But it won't get him deported.  Yet.

 

I'm sorry - it sucks.  But it happens.  To more than one person!

 

Best of luck to you in the future.

 

Sukie in NY

 

 

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5 hours ago, JFH said:

You are not making sense. You started this whole thread to ask if you are going to have any consequences for knowing about these other relationships and whether you should even mention at the Infopass appointment that you knew about them. Now you are trying to tell us you didn't know about them. You will need to get your story straight if you are planning on reporting him for "fraud".

 

Essentially what has happened is you have fallen for the oldest trick in the book. You've been a fool. You've been sucked in by a man promising you undying love within a very short time of meeting and you have invested a lot of time, emotion, energy and money to bring him into the country. And now you feel stupid that he is laughing at you that you fell for it and he got what he wanted so you want everyone to think you are a victim of fraud, not just a naive person who fell for his game. 

 

USCIS won't do anything. They can spot the difference between real fraud and people wanting revenge to cover up their embarrassment at their naivety.

Clearly you didn't read the whole thread. I added information here and there. All I said I was aware of before marrying was previous relationships. Not in depth info on those relationships and his application to another country. My story is straight, thanks. I am not a fool, I am a forgiving person who believed people change and had good intentions. And you don't even know my timeline to make the comment that I met him within a short time of meeting. I tried my best to ensure he didn't use me and was very skeptical. And he's not laughing, he's having a horrible time here because America isn't what it's cracked up to be.

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To OP, all you can do is NOT sign any papers regarding your husband anymore, he will need you later anyways, and move on with your life. Revenge is a bad advisor, and except you have proof of him exactly saying "I only did this/that for theGC" then you have no way to prove the fraud.

 

OT: Too many posts of OP to quote, and me still trying to figure out how to multiple quotre within the same reply :wacko:

 

You will never know until you try.

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4 hours ago, PedroDaGr8 said:

Either way, it changes NOTHING! There is NOTHING you can do to make things any harder on him than it already will be. By you getting involved, the ONLY thing you can do is make your life harder and actually make it harder to prosecute him. Simple as that. I know you crave revenge, hell if I was in your shoes I would dream of revenge. I would daydream of seeing him thrown in jail to rot for the pain he caused. The truth is, that will just have to remain a dream. That being said, don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Do what you need to do to get his ### kicked out of the country and take solace in that he is an idiot and he is stuck back in the country he so desperately wishes to flee. 

That's all I'm wanting is to get him stuck back in his own country.

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