Trump donates first quarter salary to National Park Service

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1 hour ago, SRVT said:

The Fed is the Federal Reserve, so if you mean the Feds (particularly when it comes to security/authorities), adding that one "s" means a world of difference.

 

But yes, taxpayers do fund Trump's detail, along with his family, and along with every current (not including the others) member of Congress and every ex-President. So when Obama goes and has private meetings with globalist big wigs, taxpayers are also funding his security detail. I'll need to know why this is a big deal, if any massive sums of money are being wasted. Otherwise this is really just whining about nothing.

Ah excuse me, yes I didn't intend to reference the Federal Reserve. I just didn't want to write out "Federal Government" at the time.

 

Trump is on track to outspend his predecessor's total 8 year expenditure within 1 year, based on the last estimates I've seen.

 

Obama is estimated to have spent 90 million dollars over 8 years.

Trump spends about 3 million per weekend he travels to Florida and, at least up until mid-March, he had spent every weekend consecutively there. At least 8 in a row I believe. That is already 24 million, more than twice what Obama spent in an entire year.

 

That isn't even including real "vacations", assuming Trump may take at least one a year (which would be expected and more than his right).

 

I think this sort of information is relevent to a discussion of him "donating" a few hundred grand to a federal program. In the same time that he "donated" that money, he has also cost tax payers over 300 times that amount (24 million / 78,333). Seems reasonably relevant to me.

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1 hour ago, SRVT said:

The Fed is the Federal Reserve, so if you mean the Feds (particularly when it comes to security/authorities), adding that one "s" means a world of difference.

 

But yes, taxpayers do fund Trump's detail, along with his family, and along with every current (not including the others) member of Congress and every ex-President. So when Obama goes and has private meetings with globalist big wigs, taxpayers are also funding his security detail. I'll need to know why this is a big deal, if any massive sums of money are being wasted. Otherwise this is really just whining about nothing.

funny the MDL did not care 4 months ago.

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15 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

funny the MDL did not care 4 months ago.

The issue is scale. Shouldn't be a difficult concept.

 

What Obama did, that people complained about, wasn't a vast departure from the past. He took less vacation days than Bush, though spent more (We have numbers on Obama, I couldn't find any on Bush). That isn't unexpected, considering Bush had a large ranch that he spent most of his vacation days to relax on. I'm guessing Obama kept a house in Chicago, but I wouldn't really a consider that as relaxing as a private ranch so I can't judge a guy wanting to take holidays with his family when he likely has one of the most stressful jobs on the planet. Just because Bush owned his ranch, doesn't mean there weren't security costs and travel costs. The actual total number for Bush's 8 year is reported (That I can find), but I highly doubt it is THAT far off from Obama's (perhaps 25% less at most? But I am just guessing).

 

As already stated, and conveniently glossed over, Trump has so far spent TWO YEAR's worth of Obama's "travel expenses" in 8 consecutive weekends going to Florida. That isn't just "slightly more". That is mind boggling more. We have no idea how long that is going to keep up, but there is no expectation that it will stop. He was calling it "The Winter White House", but has more recently stopped probably because it's no longer winter but he wants to keep going. Keep in mind these aren't even vacations. They are just his "working weekends", that he seems to think it is worth spending about 3 million for.

 

I'm not bringing up paying for his wife and child in NYC because I can't judge a family for keeping their kid in the same school until the year finishes. Also I fully support Melania wanted to live as far away from Trump as possible. As a tax payer I will gladly contribute to that for her benefit.

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42 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

funny the MDL did not care 4 months ago.

Does the middle of the road really struggle with mathematics? There is really no comparison between the grand scale at which Donald Trump is blowing through security expenses based on his lifestyle choices and Barack Obama. And The Donald was scathing in his complaining about Obama.

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2 minutes ago, ready4ONE said:

Does the middle of the road really struggle with mathematics? There is really no comparison between the grand scale at which Donald Trump is blowing through security expenses based on his lifestyle choices and Barack Obama. And The Donald was scathing in his complaining about Obama.

Considering the "middle of the road" is an imaginary space on the right hand curb that exists only in the mind, there are no set rules. There the laws of mathematics, and who knows what else, don't necessarily apply. They only apply when convenient. I hear it is where Unicorns are hiding.

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8 minutes ago, bcking said:

Considering the "middle of the road" is an imaginary space on the right hand curb that exists only in the mind, there are no set rules. There the laws of mathematics, and who knows what else, don't necessarily apply. They only apply when convenient. I hear it is where Unicorns are hiding.

My speciality is Lindquist not math

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4 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

My speciality is Lindquist not math

That's okay. Not everyone has to be good at math. I did the math for you and boiled it down to very basic arithmetic. I know you prefer "brief" posts so I'll make this as short as possible:

 

Trump spent in 8 weeks on travel/security what Obama spent in 2 years. That is why it matters. That is an increase of 13 times if it persists, and we have no information to suggest that it will stop.

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1 hour ago, bcking said:

That's okay. Not everyone has to be good at math. I did the math for you and boiled it down to very basic arithmetic. I know you prefer "brief" posts so I'll make this as short as possible:

 

Trump spent in 8 weeks on travel/security what Obama spent in 2 years. That is why it matters. That is an increase of 13 times if it persists, and we have no information to suggest that it will stop.

Wake me up in 4 years and I'd be glad to compare the numbers, but keep in mind we're still paying for Obama's security even now.

 

Much like many other things, this seems like a usual gimmick the two parties like to play with each other.

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2 minutes ago, SRVT said:

Wake me up in 4 years and I'd be glad to compare the numbers, but keep in mind we're still paying for Obama's security even now.

 

Much like many other things, this seems like a usual gimmick the two parties like to play with each other.

You are absolutely right that this is only based on the last 2 months of Trump's Presidency. We can both try to remember this conversation and see where we are at in a year.

 

However keep in mind that based on the estimate of 3 million per weekend in Florida, we are already past the 2 year mark for Obama's 8 year Presidency. So halfway through 4 years. Even if he stopped unnecessary travel COMPLETELY from now until the end of the year, he would still be ahead by an entire year.

 

If you are implying he is going to "slow down" and even out to Obama...it would be quite hard at this point. Not impossible, but not really practical. 

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2 minutes ago, bcking said:

You are absolutely right that this is only based on the last 2 months of Trump's Presidency. We can both try to remember this conversation and see where we are at in a year.

 

However keep in mind that based on the estimate of 3 million per weekend in Florida, we are already past the 2 year mark for Obama's 8 year Presidency. So halfway through 4 years. Even if he stopped unnecessary travel COMPLETELY from now until the end of the year, he would still be ahead by an entire year.

 

If you are implying he is going to "slow down" and even out to Obama...it would be quite hard at this point. Not impossible, but not really practical. 

i think what he's implying is that he doesn't care how much money trump costs us -  trump is entitled to live as he's accustomed to. he is only bitter that obama was ever president and costs us still.

just a guess.

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5 minutes ago, bcking said:

You are absolutely right that this is only based on the last 2 months of Trump's Presidency. We can both try to remember this conversation and see where we are at in a year.

 

However keep in mind that based on the estimate of 3 million per weekend in Florida, we are already past the 2 year mark for Obama's 8 year Presidency. So halfway through 4 years. Even if he stopped unnecessary travel COMPLETELY from now until the end of the year, he would still be ahead by an entire year.

 

If you are implying he is going to "slow down" and even out to Obama...it would be quite hard at this point. Not impossible, but not really practical. 

Absolutely not. I'm merely taking a wait-and-see approach. If the guy is spending more than Obama, i'd first like to see a justification of why, then weigh if it was really worth the extra costs. I know you probably are expecting a reactionary response but even with Obama my response was the same.. wait and see. I'm already quite used to seeing people from both parties reacting to every single story according to their party line, I don't really care for it. See the above post for the type of partisan reaction I'm talking about.

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4 minutes ago, bcking said:

You are absolutely right that this is only based on the last 2 months of Trump's Presidency. We can both try to remember this conversation and see where we are at in a year.

 

However keep in mind that based on the estimate of 3 million per weekend in Florida, we are already past the 2 year mark for Obama's 8 year Presidency. So halfway through 4 years. Even if he stopped unnecessary travel COMPLETELY from now until the end of the year, he would still be ahead by an entire year.

 

If you are implying he is going to "slow down" and even out to Obama...it would be quite hard at this point. Not impossible, but not really practical. 

So where are you getting your figure for all of Obamas traveled expenses . 

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1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

 

i think what he's implying is that he doesn't care how much money trump costs us -  trump is entitled to live as he's accustomed to. he is only bitter that obama was ever president and costs us still.

just a guess.

He saved a Billion on Air Force one right off the bat. So he is a billion up already 

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1 minute ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

So where are you getting your figure for all of Obamas traveled expenses . 

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-new-obama-travel-costs-bring-eight-year-total-96-million/

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/29/report-obama-family-travel-expenses-cost-taxpayers-96-million-over-8-years/

 

Those are two that you may be a fan of. I may have used 90 or 95 million instead of 96 million, so the math might be slightly off.

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2 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

He saved a Billion on Air Force one right off the bat. So he is a billion up already 

That shouldn't be how it works.

 

I'm all for saving money, and I support Trump in efforts to cut down unnecessary spending. That doesn't justify him unnecessarily spending in other areas.

 

I am part of a committee that monitors and evaluates the supply chain in our units. We review the top expenses on a monthly basis and work on ways to reduce the amount our unit spends. If I save the unit 300,000 dollars, that doesn't mean I can request an additional 10,000 dollars in "party money" for myself.