Top Obama Adviser Sought Names of Trump Associates in Intel

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1 hour ago, CaliCat said:

 

First we need to know if there was any unauthorized surveillance taking place. In addition, we also need to know what the previous administration learned.

 

 

I agree, it's not like Wikileaks revealed countless government spy programs or anything.. need proof.

 

Meanwhile, Russians hacked elections, power grid, Assange is now a Russian spy, Trump is a Russian spy, any [insert foreign national here] who had anything to do with [insert Trump cabinet member, family member, golf partner, business partner, etc. here] means they are a spy for [insert country here] and Trump needs to be impeached.

 

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Dirty Susan Rice!

 

The Russians made her do it.

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10 hours ago, jg121783 said:

If there were any ties to Russia the Democrats would have let us know by now. Instead they want to keep a lid on the fact that they illegally spied on the Trump campaign because they didn't find anything.

 

   

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16 hours ago, CaliCat said:

I think we all need to know whose names those were, and what ties to Russia they had, and probably still have. I hope they keep digging.

You don't think Susan Rice did a lot of digging already?  If it is true (no one seems to be disputing it) and she leaked Flynn's name to the media with the little actual substance, don't you think she would have given them more information if it was more damaging?  I do hope they keep digging, but they need to be digging into all of this and not just on the Trump side, as we need to know if or how the former Administration acted in spying on the incoming Administration.

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Interesting.  From an interview on PBS a month ago.

 

http://theduran.com/busted-susan-rice-lies-i-know-nothing-about-unmasking-trump-staff-video/

 

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3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

You don't think Susan Rice did a lot of digging already?  If it is true (no one seems to be disputing it) and she leaked Flynn's name to the media with the little actual substance, don't you think she would have given them more information if it was more damaging?  I do hope they keep digging, but they need to be digging into all of this and not just on the Trump side, as we need to know if or how the former Administration acted in spying on the incoming Administration.

Pretty sure that's their intent.

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4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

You don't think Susan Rice did a lot of digging already?  If it is true (no one seems to be disputing it) and she leaked Flynn's name to the media with the little actual substance, don't you think she would have given them more information if it was more damaging?  I do hope they keep digging, but they need to be digging into all of this and not just on the Trump side, as we need to know if or how the former Administration acted in spying on the incoming Administration.

While it is fine to investigate both sides, I do think we need to be honest about the current sources/evidence on either side.

 

One side has a joint intelligence report confirming that Russia was involved in at least attempting to "meddle" with our election (https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf)

 

The claim on the "other side" came from a twitter account run by someone who has a proven track record of making stuff up on way too many occassions to count.

 

So yes while fine we can investigate both, to say they are equal is absolutely a joke.

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55 minutes ago, bcking said:

While it is fine to investigate both sides, I do think we need to be honest about the current sources/evidence on either side.

 

One side has a joint intelligence report confirming that Russia was involved in at least attempting to "meddle" with our election (https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf)

 

The claim on the "other side" came from a twitter account run by someone who has a proven track record of making stuff up on way too many occassions to count.

 

So yes while fine we can investigate both, to say they are equal is absolutely a joke.

considering we can't even get the gary johnson trump supporters here to acknowledge that the calls for investigation into russian 'meddling' aren't actually partisan and that getting to the bottom of the whole thing is actually really important to our national security/democracy (lol) - i seriously doubt this is going to happen. again with the pride, like trump supporters will ever readily admit they were duped by fake news offered up to them by russian bots - that russia knew a good number of americans were dumb enough to eat it all up and put their trust behind a conman?? yeah right. never happen. #winning.

Edited April 4, 2017 by smilesammich

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Just now, smilesammich said:

considering we can't even get the gary johnson trump supporters here to acknowledge that the calls for investigation into russian 'meddling' aren't actually partisan and that getting to the bottom of the whole thing is actually really important to our national security/democracy (lol) - i seriously doubt this is going to happen. again with the pride, like trump supporters will ever readily admit they were duped by fake news offered up to them by russian bots - that russia knew a good number of americans were dumb eat it all up and put their trust behind a conman?? yeah right. never happen. #winning.

 

It's amusing to see the volume of voters who allegedly have not voted for Trump, but are ready to defend him to the end. Whistling by the graveyard, as it were.

 

The winning never stops! LOL.

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1 minute ago, CaliCat said:

 

It's amusing to see the volume of voters who allegedly have not voted for Trump, but are ready to defend him to the end. Whistling by the graveyard, as it were.

 

The winning never stops! LOL.

i just think about it in these terms, if obama had cost taxpayers that much going to hawaii..if michelle had cost taxpayers that much maintaining a home in il so the girls could stay in their home schools..(we won't get into the crazy that is..if michelle had done some lightly pornographic photo shoots in her college days - can you imagine? but that's got nothing to do with money..lol)

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6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

considering we can't even get the gary johnson trump supporters here to acknowledge that the calls for investigation into russian 'meddling' aren't actually partisan and that getting to the bottom of the whole thing is actually really important to our national security/democracy (lol) - i seriously doubt this is going to happen. again with the pride, like trump supporters will ever readily admit they were duped by fake news offered up to them by russian bots - that russia knew a good number of americans were dumb enough to eat it all up and put their trust behind a conman?? yeah right. never happen. #winning.

My most recent "favorite event" in his saga was when Flynn came out asking for immunity. I forget which one pulled it up but one of the comedy news shows had a good bit replaying a video of Flynn himself saying only like 6 months earlier that "You don't ask for immunity unless you are guilty". Followed by Trump saying the same thing to a crowd.

 

People seem to have selective memory, even when video clips are played. You'd think the technology we have would make it easier for people to be informed, but instead they just stick their heads in the sand and pretend like things that are on video never happened.

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Just now, bcking said:

My most recent "favorite event" in his saga was when Flynn came out asking for immunity. I forget which one pulled it up but one of the comedy news shows had a good bit replaying a video of Flynn himself saying only like 6 months earlier that "You don't ask for immunity unless you are guilty". Followed by Trump saying the same thing to a crowd.

 

People seem to have selective memory, even when video clips are played. You'd think the technology we have would make it easier for people to be informed, but instead they just stick their heads in the sand and pretend like things that are on video never happened.

oh but flynn is going to give the dirt on OBAMA, that's why he wanted immunity. its all a ruse, he ain't really turning..obummer and hilary are going down. putin? lift him up! great leader! strong!

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This thing is getting ugly.. The MDl is going to struggle to deflect this

 

Report: Susan Rice Ordered ‘Spreadsheets’ of Trump Campaign Calls

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/04/report-susan-rice-ordered-spreadsheets-trump-campaign-calls/

 

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3 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

This thing is getting ugly.. The MDl is going to struggle to deflect this

 

Report: Susan Rice Ordered ‘Spreadsheets’ of Trump Campaign Calls

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/04/report-susan-rice-ordered-spreadsheets-trump-campaign-calls/

 

 

 

I don't think so. The American people, including the MDL and many independent-thinking MDRs are interested in finding out what the Obama administration knew about Trump and his team.

 

I am hoping someone is forced to spill out the beans and let us know what they found out.

 

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1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

i just think about it in these terms, if obama had cost taxpayers that much going to hawaii..if michelle had cost taxpayers that much maintaining a home in il so the girls could stay in their home schools..(we won't get into the crazy that is..if michelle had done some lightly pornographic photo shoots in her college days - can you imagine? but that's got nothing to do with money..lol)

 

I recall some people were upset, because Michelle's mother spent time in the WH. I can only imagine if Obama had openly demonstrated the same level of nepotism Trump has done recently. He's paying everyone back with jobs and free rides on the taxpayers' money. 

 

But then, I think people who voted for Trump realize they were sold the Brooklyn bridge, which explains why they are disowning him, and trying to make excuses for his behavior.

Edited April 4, 2017 by CaliCat