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How long have you guys been dating?
How much time have you spent together in the same place?
Any religion differences?
Any age differences?

When was your interview?


Also when you received the 221g, it said on the paper to submit more relationship proof? And if so, did you confirm the embassy received it? Or did the 221G just state that the case was being sent back to USCIS for more review?

You said your fiance posted 1000 pages worth of things? How did you get the information back to the embassy? Through E-mail, regular mail, courier?


Either way, if it gets sent back to USCIS at almost any point it will just expire. It makes me wonder if they actually put in the system they wanted relationship proof. 221g's asking for more documents usually don't expire for a year, because they give you a year to get what ever documents they asked for. It sounds like you just got a regular 221g, based on the CO not believing your relationship was real. That or again, it's possible that they didn't put in the system that they asked for documentation and immediately returned it to USCIS, but that's rare.

If your K-1 visa expired within 6 months of your interview, then they just immediately sent it off to USCIS. 

Edited by Ash.1101

*More detailed timeline in profile!*
 
Relationship:     Friends since 2010, Together since 2013

 K-1:   2015 Done in 208 days - 212g for Second Cosponsor    

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04/27/15- NOA1 Recieved                                                    
06/02/15 - NOA2 Recieved
09/22/15 - Interview       (221g for more documents (a SECOND cosponsor), see profile for more details!)                                            
11/09/15 -  ISSUED!!                                                              
11/10/15 - Passport received                                                
02/20/16 - Wedding!              

                                         
 AOS:   2016 Done in 77 days - No RFE, No Interview                                                                    

Spoiler

04/08/16 - I-485, I-765, I-131 AOS Application recieved by USCIS
04/12/16 - 3 NOA1's received in mail
05/14/16 - Biometrics for AOS and EAD
06/27/16 - I-485 Case to changed to "New Card being produced"  (Day 77)
06/27/16 - I-485 Case changed to Approved! (Day 77)
06/30/16 - I-485 Case changed to "My Card has been mailed to me!"
07/05/16 - Green Card received in mail! 

 


ROC:   2018 - 2019 Done in 326 days - No RFE, No Interview

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05/09/18 - Mailed out ROC to CSC

05/10/18 - CSC Signed and received ROC package
06/07/28 - NOA1 

06/11/18 - Check cashed

06/15/18 - NOA received in the mail
08/27/18 - 18 month extension received (Courtesy Copy)

09/18/18 - Request for official 18 month extension
10/22/18 - Official 18 month extension received 

02/27/19 - Biometrics waived 

04/29/19 - New card being produced!
05/09/19 - USPS delivered green card! In hand now!

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Iran
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4 hours ago, Ash.1101 said:

How long have you guys been dating?
How much time have you spent together in the same place?
Any religion differences?
Any age differences?

When was your interview?


Also when you received the 221g, it said on the paper to submit more relationship proof? And if so, did you confirm the embassy received it? Or did the 221G just state that the case was being sent back to USCIS for more review?

You said your fiance posted 1000 pages worth of things? How did you get the information back to the embassy? Through E-mail, regular mail, courier?


Either way, if it gets sent back to USCIS at almost any point it will just expire. It makes me wonder if they actually put in the system they wanted relationship proof. 221g's asking for more documents usually don't expire for a year, because they give you a year to get what ever documents they asked for. It sounds like you just got a regular 221g, based on the CO not believing your relationship was real. That or again, it's possible that they didn't put in the system that they asked for documentation and immediately returned it to USCIS, but that's rare.

If your K-1 visa expired within 6 months of your interview, then they just immediately sent it off to USCIS. 

 

we are being together since sep 14. and we met twice at turkey and Azerbaijan. no, we have the similar ideology about religion but he is younger than me.

his interview was on Jan 16 and since the interview was at different country than Iran, he had to send the documents and print of our daily texts through the mail which after 10 days the CO emailed and informed he had received the documents so will review them. but after couple month reviewing he emailed us back that visa is rejected and they are going send the case back to USCIS for further review. the USCIS received our case back on Jun 16 and it was under review by them till Feb 17 that they send me a letter telling it is expired.  

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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7 hours ago, Roxanne&Diako said:

hello everyone,

after the embassy officer rejected my fiancee k1 visa on May 2016 they returned the case to USCIS for more investigations on June 16. so the case was under review since June till Feb 17 for more than 6 months and of the sudden, they sent me a letter that the case has been expired and need to fill the petition all over again! I'm wondering how it is possible if the case being reviewing for that long and then without any explanation, they tell you it's expired? we also hired an attorney after the embassy officer rejected the case but she said can't do anything on this and comments from the officer was strong enough to they expire your case without any reason!

I'm wondering is any other couples have the same issue? because my fiancee is from Iran and iIafraid the new banning orders cause these and even if we try again they would do the same?

Cases that had been rejected at the embassy and returned to the USCIS are not being investigated or reviewed after that. They're pretty much done - denied and will be left to expire so if your case was returned to USCIS after rejection at the embassy you can forget about it. I know USCIS doesn't make it clear so some people wait what happens next but the truth is that nothing happens. It's rejected, you need to fix the issue why it was rejected and start everything over again or look for another path of immigration like marriage etc.

 

6 hours ago, Roxanne&Diako said:

but we were waiting for more than 6 months to they ask me for an interview and provide more documents and they build final decision on the case but they did expire the case!

They can ask for more documentation or second interview only if they give you 221G paper that says that you case is under administrative processing etc., but in this case they don't return petition straight to the USCIS, it stays with the embassy. If it's being returned to USCIS there're no further actions embassy or anyone else will do about it.

 

- Victor from Russia

Edited by Amy_and_Victor

Our timlines K1 visa - Citizenship (06.28.2011 - 08.01.2016)

K1 Visa Timeline (06.28.2011 - 04.07.2012)

  • 06-28-2011: I-129F sent to Dallas
  • 07-05-2011: NOA1 (CSC)
  • 01-05-2012: NOA2 (184 days since NOA1)
  • 01-13-2012: NVC passed
  • 01-19-2012: Embassy received our case
  • 02-14-2012: Interview PASSED! :D K-1 Visa Approved! :D
  • 03-08-2012: POE
  • 04-07-2012: Wedding!

AOS/EAD Timeline (04.26.2012 - 12.13.2012)

  • 04-26-2012: I-485 and I-765 sent to Chicago Lockbox
  • 05-02-2012: NOA1 (both I-485 and I-765)
  • 05-23-2012: Biometrics taken
  • 07-02-2012: Employment Authorization Issued (07-09-2012 - received in the mail)
  • 12-03-2012: Made Service Request for I-485, because case is beyond processing time
  • 12-07-2012: I-485 APPROVED! 219 days since NOA1. No interview/RFE
  • 12-13-2012: GreenCard in the mailbox, done with AOS!

Lifting of conditions Timeline (09.04.2014 - 01.14.2015)

  • 09-04-2014: I-751 sent to CSC
  • 09-08-2014: NOA1
  • 11-10-2014: Biometrics taken
  • 01-07-2015: Approved! Only 122 days since NOA1. No interview/RFE
  • 01-14-2015: GreenCard in the mailbox

Citizenship Timeline (09.03.2015 - 01.08.2016)

- 09-03-2015: N-400 sent to Phoenix

- 09-10-2015: NOA1

- 10-08-2015: Biometrics taken

- 10-28-2015: Case is in line for an interview

- 11-02-2015: Letter with Naturalization Interview Appointment

- 12-07-2015: Interview passed

- 01-08-2016: Naturalization Oath Ceremony, I'm a US citizen now!

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3 hours ago, Roxanne&Diako said:

we are being together since sep 14. and we met twice at turkey and Azerbaijan. no, we have the similar ideology about religion but he is younger than me.

his interview was on Jan 16 and since the interview was at different country than Iran, he had to send the documents and print of our daily texts through the mail which after 10 days the CO emailed and informed he had received the documents so will review them. but after couple month reviewing he emailed us back that visa is rejected and they are going send the case back to USCIS for further review. the USCIS received our case back on Jun 16 and it was under review by them till Feb 17 that they send me a letter telling it is expired.  


 

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they asked for more proof or relationship,

the officer was rude and he did ask each single documents of our corresponds? so my fiancee posted more than 1000 pages of our daily corresponds with more photos of us being together and letters from my family members confirming our relationship is based on honesty 

with all these documents he still rejected the case



Now just as a note, if everything was done very email it is absolutely easy to send 1000 pages of proof. BUT, there are A LOT of cases where too much proof is worse than very little proof.

Ideally instead of sending 1000 pages of conversations, pictures, etc, you probably should have just emailed them scanned copies of signed letters from family members attesting to your relationship, any RELEVANT conversations that you may have had over the time of dating (making plans, talking about family, etc), and then photos that they have not seen before, ideally in that order. Really shouldn't be anything more than 15 pages, 3-5 pages of 3-5 people attesting to your relationship, 5 pages of IMPORTANT conversations across the time of dating, and 5 pages of maybe 2 or three pictures each per page.

More likely than not a CO is simply going to ignore most of the things they got sent if they're sent that many. They aren't expected to go through 1000 pages or attachments and it's not their job to dig through it all to find the relevant information.
They're probably used to people sending INCREDIBLE amounts of "proof" only for half of it to be nonsense and just make it look like there's something there. This is why Quality over Quantity is always important.

In this case, the CO probably just rejected the visa because they couldn't make sense of everything they were sent and could have felt that even though the quantity was there, the quality was not.

In the future, bring this evidence with you to the interview and have it in the order of family and friend affidavits, ongoing relationship proof, and pictures. Having a stack of relationship proof in your lap at an interview holds a lot more weight than 1000 pages of proof in an email. 




Also note that the term of it being rejected and sending back to USCIS for further review does mean it was just going back to expire. There was no more review done, it simply wasted away after the CO couldn't approve it with what he had.

Edited by Ash.1101

*More detailed timeline in profile!*
 
Relationship:     Friends since 2010, Together since 2013

 K-1:   2015 Done in 208 days - 212g for Second Cosponsor    

Spoiler

04/27/15- NOA1 Recieved                                                    
06/02/15 - NOA2 Recieved
09/22/15 - Interview       (221g for more documents (a SECOND cosponsor), see profile for more details!)                                            
11/09/15 -  ISSUED!!                                                              
11/10/15 - Passport received                                                
02/20/16 - Wedding!              

                                         
 AOS:   2016 Done in 77 days - No RFE, No Interview                                                                    

Spoiler

04/08/16 - I-485, I-765, I-131 AOS Application recieved by USCIS
04/12/16 - 3 NOA1's received in mail
05/14/16 - Biometrics for AOS and EAD
06/27/16 - I-485 Case to changed to "New Card being produced"  (Day 77)
06/27/16 - I-485 Case changed to Approved! (Day 77)
06/30/16 - I-485 Case changed to "My Card has been mailed to me!"
07/05/16 - Green Card received in mail! 

 


ROC:   2018 - 2019 Done in 326 days - No RFE, No Interview

Spoiler

 

05/09/18 - Mailed out ROC to CSC

05/10/18 - CSC Signed and received ROC package
06/07/28 - NOA1 

06/11/18 - Check cashed

06/15/18 - NOA received in the mail
08/27/18 - 18 month extension received (Courtesy Copy)

09/18/18 - Request for official 18 month extension
10/22/18 - Official 18 month extension received 

02/27/19 - Biometrics waived 

04/29/19 - New card being produced!
05/09/19 - USPS delivered green card! In hand now!

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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Do the CR1. Same thing happened to us and 2 years layer we are STILL waiting for them to finish processing the CR1. It's a jackuped system setup to make you fail. Unfortunately, you'll have to start over.

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Service Center : Texas Service Center
Consulate : Morocco
I-129F Sent : 2014-06-07
I-129F NOA1 : 2014-06-11
I-129F NOA2 : 2014-11-21

NVC Received : 2014-12-09

Date Case #, IIN, and BIN assigned: 2014-12-10

NVC Left: 2014-12-11

Consulate Received: 2014-12-17

Packet 3 Received: 2014-12-29

Interview Date: 2015-01-12

Refusal due to failed drug test, required one year of drug tests

Final Drug Test: 2016-01-21; PASSED

A few days later the embassy called:

PETITION EXPIRED - RETURNED TO USCIS

Service Center : Nebraska Service Center
Consulate : Morocco

Married : May 7, 2016

I-130 Sent : 2016-05-20

I-130 NOA1 : 2016-05-23

Transferred : 2016-10-12

I-130 NOA2 : 2016-11-08

NVC Received : 2016-12-01

Received DS-261 / AOS Bill : 2016-12-03

Pay AOS Bill : 2016-12-03

Send AOS Package : 2016-12-08

Submit Ds-261 : 2016-12-03

Receive IV Bill : 2016-12-03

Pay IV Bill : 2016-12-30

Send IV Package: 2016-12-08

Checklist: 2017-03-31

Case Completed at NVC2017-05-01

Interview Date: 2017-06-06

Interview Result : Administrative Processing 

 

Visa In Hand: September 28, 2017

POE: October 19, 2017 - JFK

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Iran
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Hi,

We were denied as well...Twice! There was an issue I was not aware of with my name still on a prior lease ( long story) but that is now all cleared up but they still denied us when we tried to refile the K1. I tend to think it is due in part to the heightened security since our new POTUS. 

 We are now going to marry in Tbilisi Georgia and then file the CR1. I don't know details of why they denied you guys but the CR1 is viewed differently than the K1. 

A question...did the interviewing officer say anything specific that he doubted or questioned your fiancé about? You need to understand exactly why they denied you so that you will not face the same issue with CR1.

 

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