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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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How much do you guys know about this I-129F that we sign and the possibility that a judge will grant support because I signed it? Take into account hat we only got married and we did not file any paper work for AOS

Met: Filipino Cupid September 2012
Visited Philippines: January 18, 2015
Engaged: January 22, 2015
NOA1: May 28, 2015

Posted
11 minutes ago, TonyTT said:

How much do you guys know about this I-129F that we sign and the possibility that a judge will grant support because I signed it? Take into account hat we only got married and we did not file any paper work for AOS

An I-129F has nothing at all to do with financial support. The I-134 for the K-1 visa does, but it is not legally enforceable (and it probably wasn't even asked for at the interview...USEM usually doesn't request it). Without an I-864 form AOS being executed, there's no support required due to immigration.

 

That doesn't mean maintenance/spousal support can't be part of a divorce (just like anybody else), though.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline
Posted
Just now, geowriansaid:

An I-129F has nothing at all to do with financial support. The I-134 for the K-1 visa does, but it is not legally enforceable (and it probably wasn't even asked for at the interview...USEM usually doesn't request it). Without an I-864 form AOS being executed, there's no support required due to immigration.

 

That doesn't mean maintenance/spousal support can't be part of a divorce (just like anybody else), though.

Yeah, but I am talking about a judge that does not know that it's not valid. Is it possible that a judge my think it is? 

Met: Filipino Cupid September 2012
Visited Philippines: January 18, 2015
Engaged: January 22, 2015
NOA1: May 28, 2015

Posted
Just now, TonyTT said:

Yeah, but I am talking about a judge that does not know that it's not valid. Is it possible that a judge my think it is? 

Not if you have a remotely competent divorce lawyer.

 

I'm sure a good lawyer could point to something more definitive within the US, but even the official manual the COs use before issuing the visa explicitly say it's not enforceable.

https://fam.state.gov/fam/09fam/09fam030208.html

(3)  (U) Use of Form I-134, Affidavit of Support: 

(a)  (U) Because INA 212(a)(4)(C) and INA 213A require the use of Form I-864 for so many classes of immigrants, the use of Form I-134, has been reduced considerably.  Nevertheless, there still are circumstances when Form I-134 will be beneficial.  This affidavit, submitted by the applicant at your request, is not legally binding on the sponsor and should not be accorded the same weight as Form I-864.  Form I-134 should be given consideration as one form of evidence, however, in conjunction with the other forms of evidence mentioned below.

 

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And from USCIS:

https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/AFM/HTML/AFM/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-12693/0-0-0-13496.html

"Such affidavits, although helpful in judging financial ability, are not legally binding."

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
Timeline
Posted
20 minutes ago, geowriansaid:

Not if you have a remotely competent divorce lawyer.

 

I'm sure a good lawyer could point to something more definitive within the US, but even the official manual the COs use before issuing the visa explicitly say it's not enforceable.

https://fam.state.gov/fam/09fam/09fam030208.html

(3)  (U) Use of Form I-134, Affidavit of Support: 

(a)  (U) Because INA 212(a)(4)(C) and INA 213A require the use of Form I-864 for so many classes of immigrants, the use of Form I-134, has been reduced considerably.  Nevertheless, there still are circumstances when Form I-134 will be beneficial.  This affidavit, submitted by the applicant at your request, is not legally binding on the sponsor and should not be accorded the same weight as Form I-864.  Form I-134 should be given consideration as one form of evidence, however, in conjunction with the other forms of evidence mentioned below.

 

==========

And from USCIS:

https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/AFM/HTML/AFM/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-12693/0-0-0-13496.html

"Such affidavits, although helpful in judging financial ability, are not legally binding."

Wow, you're like the best ever. Thanks :D

Met: Filipino Cupid September 2012
Visited Philippines: January 18, 2015
Engaged: January 22, 2015
NOA1: May 28, 2015

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
Timeline
Posted

Two noncontributory posts have been removed.  Please keep replies relevant to the OP's concerns.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

 
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