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Homophobia and Racism. Both involve discrimination. Which is more widespread  

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  1. 1. Between Homophobia and Racism, which one do you think is more widespread?

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i think that the two usually go hand in hand, in other words, in my experience, people who hold racist views generally also hold similar views when it comes to homosexuals...

as far as institutional discrimination, its hard to say because the discrimination occurs in different ways...i guess they tend to balance out to be equal though

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I think there is less homophobia in the UK than in the USA.

i think it depends where you live. i think the more religious and traditional areas of the country have more homophobia. in nyc no one bats an eye when they see two men kissing or holding hands.

i think people tend to be more vocal about their homophobia, whereas most people aren't even aware of their own racism.

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I'd have to say racism since it's usually easier to detect who is of another race. Just going by skin tone alone, we can isolate Hispanic Americans and African Americans; using distinct features, we can tell who is Asian American as well. The waters tend to get a little murky when we start looking at Jewish Americans (for instance) since anyone can potentially be Jewish through conversion; however, there is a birth line of Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews (which was traditionally passed down through the mother). But once again, it's difficult to tell who is Jewish, since barring blatant stereotypes, there are very few visual cues. In addition, Judaism is a religion, so it's very possible to argue that being Jewish is not so much a racial attribute as it is a religious one.

Whatever the case (in regards to Jews), the fact remains that racism, by and large, is far easier to locate due to pronounced features. Such is not the case with homosexuality and therefore, homophobia. Anyone of any race, religion, or culture could potentially be homosexual. Whether they wish to admit it (to themselves or others) is another case entirely, but it could still happen. Since homosexuality is much more easily hidden from view, I'd have to assume that homophobia (at least any such overt form) occurs less than racism.

Just for clarification, I don't believe homosexuality should be hidden from teenagers and adults, even though it very easily could be done. The reason I emphasize "teenagers and adults" is because I think children (specifically young children) should not be purposefully exposed to sexuality in any form, whether it's ** or hetero. Let kids be kids and enjoy their childhood. They'll have plenty of time to explore their sexuality and worry about "grownup" issues later.

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What do you mean by "exposed"? My brother (6) and my sister (8) have always been around a lot of gay people, including committed couples, and they don't seem to think anything of it. their understanding seems to be that some people, like my dad and stepmom, marry the opposite sex and some people, like my dad's best friend, marry the same sex. they have no concept of "gay" or "straight." probably it will be a shock to them when they grow up and realize how much some people hate homosexuals, but really, it's something that SHOULD be shocking, IMO.

Just for clarification, I don't believe homosexuality should be hidden from teenagers and adults, even though it very easily could be done. The reason I emphasize "teenagers and adults" is because I think children (specifically young children) should not be purposefully exposed to sexuality in any form, whether it's ** or hetero. Let kids be kids and enjoy their childhood. They'll have plenty of time to explore their sexuality and worry about "grownup" issues later.

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What do you mean by "exposed"? My brother (6) and my sister (8) have always been around a lot of gay people, including committed couples, and they don't seem to think anything of it. their understanding seems to be that some people, like my dad and stepmom, marry the opposite sex and some people, like my dad's best friend, marry the same sex. they have no concept of "gay" or "straight." probably it will be a shock to them when they grow up and realize how much some people hate homosexuals, but really, it's something that SHOULD be shocking, IMO.

I wrote "purposefully exposed," which means something a bit different than merely "exposed." What I'm getting at is young children don't need to have sexuality of any kind thrust in their faces. If they see hetereosexual and homosexual couples (and ask questions), then that's fine. But that's different from shoving the concept of sexuality in their faces or lesson plans at school.

As I said before, let kids be kids. Why burden them with adult issues?

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I got this idea after reading another thread. I know this won't prove anything as this is relatively a small community, but I was just curious

Unfortunately,they are equally widespread.

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I think there is less homophobia in the UK than in the USA.

There's probably less racism in the UK as well.

Nah,people in the UK are just as racist as we are in the USA.

May 7,2007-USCIS received I-129f
July 24,2007-NOA1 was received
April 21,2008-K-1 visa denied.
June 3,2008-waiver filed at US Consalate in Panama
The interview went well,they told him it will take another 6 months for them to adjudicate the waiver
March 3,2009-US Consulate claims they have no record of our December visit,nor Manuel's interview
March 27,2009-Manuel returned to the consulate for another interrogation(because they forgot about December's interview),and they were really rude !
April 3,2009-US Counsalate asks for more court documents that no longer exist !
June 1,2009-Manuel and I go back to the US consalate AGAIN to give them a letter from the court in Colon along with documents I already gave them last year.I was surprised to see they had two thick files for his case !


June 15,2010-They called Manuel in to take his fingerprints again,still no decision on his case!
June 22,2010-WAIVER APPROVED at 5:00pm
July 19,2010-VISA IN MANUELITO'S HAND at 3:15pm!
July 25,2010-Manuelito arrives at 9:35pm at Logan Intn'l Airport,Boston,MA
August 5,2010-FINALLY MARRIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 23,2010-Filed for AOS at the International Institute of RI $1400!
December 23,2010-Work authorization received.
January 12,2011-RFE

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