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Hello everyone! Hoping someone has had similar experience and can help how they worked it out...

 

The details:

- I-751 pending (November 2016 filer)

- VSC filer (so expecting it to take over a year to be processed)

- NOA1 extension expires Jan 31st, 2018

- plan on traveling from NY to Australia & Malaysia to spend time with family with our newborn infant - for 7 weeks (Dec 4th - Jan 22nd 2018)
- returning to US 9 days before 1 year extension expires
- will be entering US at LAX
 
I understand I should make an InfoPass appointment to get I-551 passport stamp before I go. Anyone share they're experience for doing this in NYC?
 
A few more questions:
- can I make an Infopass appointment to get I-551 passport stamp 2-3 months before GC extension expires?
- what happens if I receive an interview notice or RFE while I am gone? potentially not seeing it if I don't have someone checking my mail regularly. That would be unfortunate timing.
- will I have any issues coming back to US just 9 days before green card extension letter expires?
- if green card is approved and sent to my US home while we are gone, will my NOA1 extension letter/I-551 passport stamp still be good for re-entering the US or is it cancelled, and I will not be allowed in without my current green card to present at immigration?
- does expired green card get taken away when I-551 stamped? If so, would immigration still accept NOA1 extension letter and/or I-551 stamp?
 
Any help greatly appreciated! I will be calling USCIS tomorrow but expect not to get a very helpful answer, through previous experiences with them.
 

 

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Your current plan does not require you to get a stamp, as long as you have the letter and expired card and return before expiry. At any rate, they would be unlikely to issue you a stamp 3 months before expiry of the letter.

 

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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1 hour ago, mindthegap said:

Your current plan does not require you to get a stamp, as long as you have the letter and expired card and return before expiry. At any rate, they would be unlikely to issue you a stamp 3 months before expiry of the letter.

 

What would happen if I come back with 9 days remaining before it expires? Then I have 9 days to schedule myself a Infopass appointment and get the I-551 passport stamp? Unlikely, seeing as appointments seem to be fully booked out 14 days in advance. But how do I not let myself get out of legal status?

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53 minutes ago, KPea said:

What would happen if I come back with 9 days remaining before it expires? Then I have 9 days to schedule myself a Infopass appointment and get the I-551 passport stamp? Unlikely, seeing as appointments seem to be fully booked out 14 days in advance. But how do I not let myself get out of legal status?

You do not need to get the stamp before the expiry of your extension letter.

Unlike the expiry of the green card, when your extension letter expires you are not out of legal status, you just have no proof of that status - for example if you need to travel or renew your DL

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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We're doing something similar. Traveling abroad and coming home one week before letter date expiration (not GC). I plan to make an infopass appointment before we leave- they schedule 14 days out. I'll get him an appointment for a few days after we get home to get the stamp, which will be just a few days before letter "expires".

N-400 May 2017 Google Doc

Full timeline- 

 

Filed from abroad- Costa Rica

NOA1- NOA2: 316 days

Jan 12, 2013: Married!!
Mar 19, 2013: NOA1

Jan 28, 2014: I-130 approved

NVC- Green Card in Hand: 189 days

Feb 3, 2014: TSC sends case to NVC
April 14: Real checklist for AOS (saying tax number was incorrect when it wasn't)
April 30: Another AOS checklist, for proof of employment (which was already sent)
May 1: Checklist for IV- certified marriage certificate (even though I sent a certified one originally)
July 1: INTERVIEW!!! - APPROVED!
July 16: POE through Miami
July 22: SSN card in the mail
August 30, 2014: Green card arrives in the mail!!!
 
ROC: 366 days
April 27, 2016: Sent 300 page ROC packet to VSC via overnight mail
May 16: Check shown as charged online, received NOA 1 dated April 29
June 20, 2016- Biometrics
April 28, 2017: Approval
May 4, 2017: Approval letter arrived
May 15, 2017: GC arrives in mail
 
N-400: 190 days
May 8: Sent packet to Dallas Lockbox
May 12: NOA 1, Credit card charged
June 7: Biometrics
June 16: "In line"
Oct 2: Interview letter arrives (online status still says ''in line'')
Oct 31: Interview- Approved!
Nov 13: Oath ceremony!  Applied for passport & registered to vote on site.
Nov 22: Passport arrives (paid for expedited service and overnight delivery)
 
Journey complete! A total of 1701 days or 4 years, 7 months and 26 days.
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15 minutes ago, lucybelle said:

We're doing something similar. Traveling abroad and coming home one week before letter date expiration (not GC). I plan to make an infopass appointment before we leave- they schedule 14 days out. I'll get him an appointment for a few days after we get home to get the stamp, which will be just a few days before letter "expires".

So you'll be trying to book an Infopass appointment while you are traveling, for a date just after you've returned and before the letter expires?

 

Are you worried about not having the stamp before you go? Or if you receive an interview/RFE notice while you are away?

 

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I went to get a stamp at USCIS office as I am traveling internationally and coming back about 2 weeks before GC expiration.  But the officer refused to give me the stamp as he does not see a good reason and told me to come back after I return to the US, if the new GC is still not here.

He also told me that I can walk in to get the stamp without an appointment.  I am not sure if that's the case with your local USCIS office.  The one I went to looked slow and all time slots were open when I made my appointment. 

 

I actually received an approval letter today.  The letter says to get the stamp if I need to travel before the new GC is received.  I am hoping that I can get the stamp this time as traveling while waiting for a new card seems to be a different situation than traveling while case pending.

2013-01-12 Married!
2013-07-25 I-130 shipped
2013-07-29 NOA1
2014-01-13 Case transferred to CSC
2014-01-21 NOA2
2014-01-31 NVC received
2014-02-10 Case# assigned
2014-02-11 IIN assigned
2014-02-12 DS-261 available & completed
2014-02-14 AOS bill available
2014-02-14 Case transferred to Embassy
2014-02-15 DS-260 available
2014-02-20 DS-260 completed
2014-02-22 Medical
2014-02-25 Interview date email received
2014-03-17 Interview and APPROVED
2014-03-18 CEAC status 'issued' and Passport shipped out
2014-03-19 Passport received
2014-05-08 US entry

2016-02-20 I-751 shipped

2016-02-24 I-751 delivered to VSC

2016-03-01 Check is cashed

2016-03-02 NOA received in mail (NOA date 02-25)

2017-03-22 Approval letter received (Approval date 03-17)

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21 hours ago, KPea said:

So you'll be trying to book an Infopass appointment while you are traveling, for a date just after you've returned and before the letter expires?

 

Are you worried about not having the stamp before you go? Or if you receive an interview/RFE notice while you are away?

 

 

Yes, it will be for a date after we return but before letter expires.

 

I am not worried at all.  My husband travels frequently and he was not asked for extension letter until after GC expired.  And technically that letter should extend his GC date, which is in July.

 

We'll only be gone for a week so I'm not too worried about an interview/RFE notice.

N-400 May 2017 Google Doc

Full timeline- 

 

Filed from abroad- Costa Rica

NOA1- NOA2: 316 days

Jan 12, 2013: Married!!
Mar 19, 2013: NOA1

Jan 28, 2014: I-130 approved

NVC- Green Card in Hand: 189 days

Feb 3, 2014: TSC sends case to NVC
April 14: Real checklist for AOS (saying tax number was incorrect when it wasn't)
April 30: Another AOS checklist, for proof of employment (which was already sent)
May 1: Checklist for IV- certified marriage certificate (even though I sent a certified one originally)
July 1: INTERVIEW!!! - APPROVED!
July 16: POE through Miami
July 22: SSN card in the mail
August 30, 2014: Green card arrives in the mail!!!
 
ROC: 366 days
April 27, 2016: Sent 300 page ROC packet to VSC via overnight mail
May 16: Check shown as charged online, received NOA 1 dated April 29
June 20, 2016- Biometrics
April 28, 2017: Approval
May 4, 2017: Approval letter arrived
May 15, 2017: GC arrives in mail
 
N-400: 190 days
May 8: Sent packet to Dallas Lockbox
May 12: NOA 1, Credit card charged
June 7: Biometrics
June 16: "In line"
Oct 2: Interview letter arrives (online status still says ''in line'')
Oct 31: Interview- Approved!
Nov 13: Oath ceremony!  Applied for passport & registered to vote on site.
Nov 22: Passport arrives (paid for expedited service and overnight delivery)
 
Journey complete! A total of 1701 days or 4 years, 7 months and 26 days.
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Just called USCIS, surprised I actually got a callback from a Tier 2 officer. I asked for a badge number so I could reference the enquiry and he said he didn't have one, need to reference my receipt number.

 

These were the questions/answers:

 

- visa fee waived message on website - its a glitch in the system (as expected)
- when does extension expire - 1 year from expiration of GC or receipt date on NOA letter? - date on letter (that would be 10th November 2017)
 
This threw me off...I was expecting him to say 1 year from GC date. It actually works better if it is date on letter so I can be guaranteed to get I-551 stamp before I go.
 
- what happens if I receive interview notice or RFE while I am gone? - they can't tell me either way, would need to address it either way so need someone checking mail regularly while I'm gone
- what happens after the letter expires and I have not received my 10 year green card? - if temporary green card and letter is both expired, I cannot work, drive, travel etc. Need I-551 stamp
- can I make an Infopass appointment to get my green card extension extended further, 2-3 months before it actually expires? - need to make appointment at least 30 days before it expires
- if green card is sent/received while we are gone, will my extension still be good for re-entering the US or is it cancelled?- stamp is still valid, its good for entry
- does expired green card get taken away when I-551 stamped? - no, they put a sticker on it
 
Please let me know if you have or have been provided any contradicting information on this!
 
I know the 1 year from GC expiration or letter seems to change depending on who you're talking to...

 

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With immigration officers spreading BS like that, is it any wonder that people get confused about this whole process?

 

 

27 minutes ago, KPea said:

- what happens after the letter expires and I have not received my 10 year green card? - if temporary green card and letter is both expired, I cannot work, drive, travel etc. Need I-551 stamp

Many issues with what you have been told, but this specifically is such rubbish (aside from travel) it deserves a special mention.

Your status, lawful presence, or right to work is not affected when the letter expires. 

The stamp serves as proof of your status - it doesn't dictate it. 

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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If I understood correctly, you have a valid extension letter.  You do not need a i-555 passport stamp.  It serves the same as a valid extension letter. One or the other. My only worry is to receive a letter requesting your presence and you are out of the country.  My advise is to avoid if at all possible any travel while processing your papers. If the letter is about to expire then request a second letter or passport stamp.

 

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My point precisely Kpea.  Try to avoid travel while your are in the process of submitting all the pertinent info. You will have plenty of time afterwards.

Archie

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