I unknowingly voted as a permanent resident, HELP!

[cdneh 3,112]

Just now, Nipperswife said:

really?

That's crazy... 

then maybe the judge can rule in his or her favor  and be lenient based on negligence if he or she is from a country that allows residents to vote.

I've seen that tried before, and it doesn't work. What applies there, has no  bearing here.

 

Crazy it might seem, but I am from Canada, resident in NZ when we applied. I am still getting ballot papers in the mail. My flatmate sends them back, calls them, when I was there last year I did, and still they keep coming.

And really, not crazy at all. I lived there,  I worked there, I paid taxes there, why shouldn't I have had a vote? The don't see things the way they do here.

 

None the less, not on topic. She, or he, needs to get their name off that list, and forget about filing an N-400.

[yuna628 9,744]

2 hours ago, Nipperswife said:

 

(speechless)

 

Pardon me...  yea this is bad... 

 

You don't seem sure that you actually voted though.. I don't understand why you would register to vote though.. every country, and I am sure your home country requires years and a process before one is allowed to vote.. america isnt the only country with a procedure

 

It sucks that you will have to face the harsh reality/ consequences of this... this is an offence everywhere.. and like someone said previously especially with this administration in power here... I mean it would be the same with either party, really...

TBH, I hate to tell ya, but back in the day there are cases of the DMV automatically signing literally anyone that comes through their doors up to get a license or ID to vote, even when the immigrant said no (so they are registered either by mistake or deliberately without their consent) and even when the DMV should know better. But there's a difference in registering by mistake (which you can get yourself removed) and actually physically voting. Ignorance of the law is not taken into account. It's the immigrant's responsibility to be sure they know what they are doing, and by voting illegally it is one of the worst things they can do.

[NancyNguyen 1,658]

I am so sorry but you made one of your biggest mistakes.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/02/11/mexican-woman-in-texas-sentenced-to-8-years-in-prison-for-voter-fraud.html

[KurosawaSan 52]

Sadly, ignorance of the law is not an excuse to break the law - if someone steals from a store, gets caught and then says that they didn't know they would get punished for what they did, that would not be forgiven. Neither is voting as a non-USC. There were cases when people were mistakenly registered to vote, but that is forgivable - you can get the papers to show that you are there by mistake, and that you did not vote. We've seen hundreds of cases like that. Your problem is that you actually voted. That pretty much slammed the door shut behind you on any possible way of getting US Citizenship. 

 

I am not sure an attorney can help as there is not much they can do - you effectively fraudulently participated in an election, which is a deportable offense.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

   Actually there is no valid way to claim ignorance of the law unless you came to the US as a minor.  Your welcome to America pamphlet has a warning about not voting and every immigrant is sent one.    I know 2 Nigerian brothers that registered to vote for the last president and one is now back in Nigeria and will never return and the other is a US citizen ( he voted the first time he ran ) . (  It is important how old you were when you got your welcome to America pamphlet)

[llcoolmg 20]

4 hours ago, Sara1990 said:

do you think I should consult with the attorney first before deregister my name ?

3 hours ago, NuestraUnion said:

 

You should remove your name regardless.

1 hour ago, geowrian said:

Yes, it would be best to unregister.

1 hour ago, cdneh said:

 Unregister, and do not apply for naturalization.

 

4 hours ago, f f said:

first thing is get unregistered to vote.

 

I had forgotten how much bad advice there is in this forum.

 

@Sara1990, No, please do not try to "unregister" to vote what ever that means. In most states the only way to be removed from your states voter roll is if you move to another state and register in the new state or if you die and your current state matches the death certificate with the voter roll. Outside of that the process depends on the state but regardless of the state it would require going to a courthouse and or signing an affidavit. Not good in this legal climate. So yes absolutely speak to not just a immigration attorney but a criminal defense attorney because in this climate, non-citizens who are caught voting are not just getting deported but are serving serious time. Sorry about your luck but speak with legal professional asap.

[cdneh 3,112]

19 minutes ago, llcoolmg said:

 

I had forgotten how much bad advice there is in this forum.

 

@Sara1990, No, please do not try to "unregister" to vote what ever that means. In most states the only way to be removed from your states voter roll is if you move to another state and register in the new state or if you die and your current state matches the death certificate with the voter roll. Outside of that the process depends on the state but regardless of the state it would require going to a courthouse and or signing an affidavit. Not good in this legal climate. So yes absolutely speak to not just a immigration attorney but a criminal defense attorney because in this climate, non-citizens who are caught voting are not just getting deported but are serving serious time. Sorry about your luck but speak with legal professional asap.

She needs to get off the voters list. She must do. This is no time to lie low and hope for the best.  It isn't luck, it's the law. And there isn't anything a lawyer can do about it.

[Ash.1101 1,756]

One of the very first things ALL voter registration cards ask, is if you are a USC, you have to check yes to it to get the card.

Then before you sign, you sign saying that you attest everything is true under perjury of the law.


It's up to ALL of us to read EVERYTHING we sign, or else things like this happen.

Ignorance of the law does not absolve one of the law.

Edited March 22, 2017 by Ash.1101

[kcrb 24]

4 minutes ago, cdneh said:

She needs to get off the voters list. She must do. This is no time to lie low and hope for the best.  It isn't luck, it's the law. And there isn't anything a lawyer can do about it.

 

 

There have been many instances of people being arrested by ICE at the steps of a courthouse. I'd recommend contacting an immigration attorney as soon as possible, make sure you find a good one. Even if they cannot undo the situation, you need information. Do not unregister to vote until you understand your rights and what you can and cannot do. Not to be rude, but I'd make sure you have a deep understanding of the US and the rights extended to permanent residents before doing anything further. Ignorance is and never will be an excuse for adults in the US. The damage is already done, waiting a little longer to deregister to vote will not hurt you. You've already committed voter fraud, so it won't matter at this point. 

Edited March 22, 2017 by kcrb

[llcoolmg 20]

2 minutes ago, cdneh said:

She needs to get off the voters list. She must do. This is no time to lie low and hope for the best.  It isn't luck, it's the law. And there isn't anything a lawyer can do about it.

@Sara1990 please do not listen to this rubbish. This is no longer a DIY immigration project. Deportation is very likely, almost certain. That is actually not my main concern. My main concern is not federal detention and deportation but instead State jail time for violating state law. Please hire a criminal defense attorney to get proper legal advice. 

[Shiobhan 235]

You need a lawyer I know a guy who only

registered, and he cant say how they knew

at cititzenship interrview, he will never be

qualified for naturalisation they told him

and his GC may be revoked, he says he

was signed up at the MVD and thought

he could vote (he did not) he is now in

immigration court

[weakheart 118]

this is a big criminal offence, this administration or any other, forget about citizenship, lawyer or not , your chances are pretty much 0 to be us citizen, sorry, huge mistake....they will definately put you in removal procedings if they find it out

[weakheart 118]

i know a case where a person was put on removal proceding only for registering to vote, he never even voted....

it is annoying to see why states dont even ask for citizenship proof to register to vote, i mean how come you even got registered to vote

[Becci391 340]

26 minutes ago, weakheart said:

i know a case where a person was put on removal proceding only for registering to vote, he never even voted....

it is annoying to see why states dont even ask for citizenship proof to register to vote, i mean how come you even got registered to vote

I think even if you only register your name to vote you somehow have to verify that you are a US-citizen. And if not than there should be written something like"I hereby declare that I'm a US-citizen and that I'm aware of consequences if I violated the law."

 

Edited March 22, 2017 by Becci391

[weakheart 118]

11 minutes ago, Becci391 said:

I think even if you only register your name to vote you somehow have to verify that you are a US-citizen. And if not than there should be written something like"I hereby declare that I'm a US-citizen and that I'm aware of consequences if I violated the law."

 

definately there is something that asks the person if he/she is us citizen, but shouldnt state verify that ....i mean now i think trump was right that illegals voted illegally....i mean if state just believes if a person is saying he/she is us citizen, state should verify the claim before registering to vote