Polyamorous marriage and permanent residence

[AdamEve&Steve 1]

12 hours ago, geowrian said:

Your obligation will be to prove that the marriage is bona fide. That's just how it works.

That's my main question. Is it my obligation to prove that our marriage is bona fide or immigration's obligation to prove that our marriage is fake? I mean, can immigration deny the petition just because they THINK the marriage is not legitimate?

[KULtoATL 1,551]

Just now, AdamEve&Steve said:

That's my main question. Is it my obligation to prove that our marriage is bona fide or immigration's obligation to prove that our marriage is fake? I mean, can immigration deny the petition just because they THINK the marriage is not legitimate?

It's always the applicants' burden to prove.

[AdamEve&Steve 1]

5 minutes ago, Ortolan said:

Remember also, OP, that you're going to have to prove mingling of finances, insurances, wills, and other things down the road when you Remove Conditions, in order for Steve to get a 10-year green card. Are you going to be prepared to do these things, as a married couple? Just a reminder that there's still a long path ahead. Good luck!

Yes, I'm willing.

[geowrian 22,338]

1 minute ago, AdamEve&Steve said:

That's my main question. Is it my obligation to prove that our marriage is bona fide or immigration's obligation to prove that our marriage is fake? I mean, can immigration deny the petition just because they THINK the marriage is not legitimate?

It's the beneficiary's obligation to prove that they are qualified for the immigration benefit being pursued. So they have to prove the marriage is bona fide. They can (and will) deny benefits if they think the relationship is not legitimate.

[AdamEve&Steve 1]

2 minutes ago, KULtoATL said:

It's always the applicants' burden to prove.

So when they find out I have a relationship outside marriage, can they just deny the petition?

[Ortolan 381]

Think of the proof process as if you were proving it in a mail-in court . That's what you need to do: prove it with paper, with tangible evidence that it is indeed a bonafide relationship and marriage.

[Lemonslice 4,991]

3 minutes ago, AdamEve&Steve said:

So when they find out I have a relationship outside marriage, can they just deny the petition?

When will they find out? You have to prove bona fide marriage to Steve.

[AdamEve&Steve 1]

3 minutes ago, Ortolan said:

Think of the proof process as if you were proving it in a mail-in court . That's what you need to do: prove it with paper, with tangible evidence that it is indeed a bonafide relationship and marriage.

I'm willing to go to any extent including mingling our finances and everything else to prove that our marriage is indeed legitimate. I'm also willing to have sex with him in front of them if it comes to that. But when they discover my already existing relationship, can they just deny the petition THINKING that that marriage is not bonafide? I mean, this is too much of a risk for me. Because if it comes to that, Steve would be deported just because of the opinion of immigration.

[BethyWink 96]

If your marriage is your primary, (from the sounds of it, you guys do not do hierarchy poly) I feel like they should have no say in the matter, since swinging is technically legal... 

[Ortolan 381]

I think you're kind of jumping the gun here; he can't be deported if they don't admit him in the first place. Slow down, concentrate on your impending marriage to Steve, and forget about the rest. If they ask you, whatever you do and whatever it is, tell them the truth.

[AdamEve&Steve 1]

18 minutes ago, Ortolan said:

I think you're kind of jumping the gun here; he can't be deported if they don't admit him in the first place. Slow down, concentrate on your impending marriage to Steve, and forget about the rest. If they ask you, whatever you do and whatever it is, tell them the truth.

Steve is already here, he lost his immigration status some years ago.

[Boiler 46,312]

What is your status? The issue is whether the relationship is not real but to provide an immigration benefit.

[AdamEve&Steve 1]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

What is your status? The issue is whether the relationship is not real but to provide an immigration benefit.

I am a citizen.

[Ontarkie 14,565]

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[Ontarkie 14,565]

The side guy could be a problem, the new guy can be a problem. You never said what status he had lost? Immigration could very well believe he is using you to regain legal status.