DNA Testing to petition my child.

[Boiler 46,141]

So this is all conjecture, after all that.

[Gabriel2001 0]

13 minutes ago, Boiler said:

So this is all conjecture, after all that.

 

Till the DNA Test by the US Embassy confirms it then it is not 100% my child yet.  But I want to do the step by step procedure of doing this legally.

[geowrian 22,338]

5 minutes ago, Gabriel2001 said:

 

Till the DNA Test by the US Embassy confirms it then it is not 100% my child yet.  But I want to do the step by step procedure of doing this legally.

So get the test done first and confirm. Until then, you have no legal relation to the child and any immigration talk is premature.

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

You maybe the biological father  but legally, the stepfather has the legal rights to the child.

You are a sperm donor, that's all. That man who raised your child has all the legal rights.

Hopefully, he will agree to let you take the child he has raised for all these years. So you won't get to the point of getting a DNA test.

 

Try going through that man first.

Edited February 13, 2017 by IcezMan_IcezLady

[Boiler 46,141]

Could they claim backdated child support?

[Gabriel2001 0]

1 hour ago, IcezMan_IcezLady said:

You maybe the biological father  but legally, the stepfather has the legal rights to the child.

You are a sperm donor, that's all. That man who raised your child has all the legal rights.

Hopefully, he will agree to let you take the child he has raised for all these years. So you won't get to the point of getting a DNA test.

 

Try going through that man first.

 

 You maybe the biological father  but legally, the stepfather has the legal rights to the child.  :
True

You are a sperm donor, that's all.  :
That hurts man.    The BC Dad been unemployed for more than 10 years now the BC mother is the one doing all the work.
Their income is around $200 - $300 a month.   With this revelation it could change the future of the children and the parents.  I'm willing to help as much as I can.

 

That man who raised your child has all the legal rights.  :
So True.

 

Hopefully, he will agree to let you take the child he has raised for all these years. So you won't get to the point of getting a DNA test.  :
I will still have to get a DNA test might do 2X.  1st is for my claim or basis   Second is when I get a go signal from the US Embassy to go to a specific center to do the DNA Test

 

 

Try going through that man first.
He is the man.   Though theyv'e been separated for more than 10 years The mother said she will convince him about it and she's positive he'll agree since it'll benefit their entire family in the years to come.

 

Thank you for the reply.

 

[IcezMan_IcezLady 582]

12 minutes ago, Gabriel2001 said:

 

 You maybe the biological father  but legally, the stepfather has the legal rights to the child.  :
True

You are a sperm donor, that's all.  :
That hurts man.    The BC Dad been unemployed for more than 10 years now the BC mother is the one doing all the work.
Their income is around $200 - $300 a month.   With this revelation it could change the future of the children and the parents.  I'm willing to help as much as I can.

 

That man who raised your child has all the legal rights.  :
So True.

 

Hopefully, he will agree to let you take the child he has raised for all these years. So you won't get to the point of getting a DNA test.  :
I will still have to get a DNA test might do 2X.  1st is for my claim or basis   Second is when I get a go signal from the US Embassy to go to a specific center to do the DNA Test

 

 

Try going through that man first.
He is the man.   Though theyv'e been separated for more than 10 years The mother said she will convince him about it and she's positive he'll agree since it'll benefit their entire family in the years to come.

 

Thank you for the reply.

 

 you get her to break the news to him.

Have a conversation with this man.. 

Then, proceed to work to correct the birth certificate.

Then you can start the immigration process from there..You can't submit your own DNA test to the embassy unless they request for one.

 

I understand you are trying to do your best for your child now. But sounds like you knew all this while that was your child. I hope you have been helping this woman financially.

 

You are saying that "it will benefit the whole family"...not really. The other man, who raised your child since childhood until their separation may be out of luck in this deal.

 

And I hope you will also personally have a man-to-man conversation with that man. Because you and this woman intentionally conspired to have another man bare your responsibility. here you are, demanding a DNA test to make it all go away. I would sympathize with you if you didn't know you had a child and the woman did it by herself.

 

 

 

 

[Gabriel2001 0]

13 minutes ago, Boiler said:

So this is all conjecture, after all that.

 

Till the DNA Test by the US Embassy confirms it then it is not 100% my child yet.  But I want to do the step by step procedure of doing this legally.

[aaron2020 11,651]

4 hours ago, Gabriel2001 said:

 

Till the DNA Test by the US Embassy confirms it then it is not 100% my child yet.  But I want to do the step by step procedure of doing this legally.

You can't get into the US Embassy until you get the BC fixed first.  The US Embassy is not going to order a DNA test because you want one.  There must be a legal basis for the DNA test . . .  a fixed birth certificate which warrants a DNA test.

[Ontarkie 14,501]

Get your own DNA test done. If it is your son fix the birth certificate.

 

You would not be the first guy that thought a kid was his to find out it was all a lie.

Think about it, you become a USC the mother finally tells her husband the kid is not his, but only a month ago. Now they are all planning their way to the US. This screams like you're being played. I really hope it's not the case but it doesn't look good.

 

Get the DNA now.

Edited February 14, 2017 by Ontarkie

[Pinkrlion 2,724]

Unfortunately u will not have a case.  She was married and he claims child as his, and so did she.  You have no proof of being the father regardless of their financial circumstances, USCIS is not going to view u as the father and approve the petition.  As someone else said, u were the sperm donor from an extra marital affair, who has not provided care for the child and someone else has, therefore, they can continue to live in their current living environment.  

 

If you choose to go through the DNA test, and changing the BC, then you need to start sending money to take care of ur child every month, and visit your child every year.  After a period of time, then u can file.

[aaa2zzz 27]

The DNA test has to be done through an approved provider. That is, there is a short list of people that can do it. I know there is one in Monrovia, California.

 

I completely disagree on the matter of the birth certificate. Of course, if the mother was married to the other man at the time the child was born, the father is going to be on it. The way to fix it is not to re-issue the birth certificate, but first verify paternity. 

The problem is not the birth certificate. The problem is that you were not a citizen at the time the child was born. So, the child was not born a citizen, no matter what.

Since the child was not living in the USA as a resident,  in your custody with you when you got citizenship, he has no derivative citizenship.

The only way is to sponsor as an immediate relative. 

Since the mother was married to someone else, I don't think you can legitimize the child (that can only happen if she were not married, and this is required before he is 18) or establish a father/son relationship before he is 21 AND unmarried. That would be established  by concrete expressions of concern, or financial support. 

https://www.uscis.gov/family/family-us-citizens/children/bringing-children-sons-and-daughters-live-united-states-permanent-residents

"from the horse's mouth"

you need a good lawyer, sir.

 

[Gabriel2001 0]

10 minutes ago, aaa2zzz said:

The DNA test has to be done through an approved provider. That is, there is a short list of people that can do it. I know there is one in Monrovia, California.

 

I completely disagree on the matter of the birth certificate. Of course, if the mother was married to the other man at the time the child was born, the father is going to be on it. The way to fix it is not to re-issue the birth certificate, but first verify paternity. 

The problem is not the birth certificate. The problem is that you were not a citizen at the time the child was born. So, the child was not born a citizen, no matter what.

Since the child was not living in the USA as a resident,  in your custody with you when you got citizenship, he has no derivative citizenship.

The only way is to sponsor as an immediate relative. 

Since the mother was married to someone else, I don't think you can legitimize the child (that can only happen if she were not married, and this is required before he is 18) or establish a father/son relationship before he is 21 AND unmarried. That would be established  by concrete expressions of concern, or financial support. 

https://www.uscis.gov/family/family-us-citizens/children/bringing-children-sons-and-daughters-live-united-states-permanent-residents

"from the horse's mouth"

you need a good lawyer, sir.

 

 

I have been sending money and met the kid twice.  I could just continue what I am doing and not get my son to go here and wait till I retire and maybe be with him in the Phils.  Great Advice.  Thank you very much.  

[Ontarkie 14,501]

 

 

So you're sending money to help with a child that you're not even sure is yours. Please please please get your own DNA test done before you plan anything else.

 

 I'm sorry but you cannot go by how the child looks. Not one of my 6 kids looks like me, and I gave birth to them. Do not get scammed out of more money, time and energy.

If he is not yours then think of the damage that this will cause him, being torn away from a father twice. If he is yours after a DNA test then you can step in and be that father.  

 

Once establish you then can explain that you just found out he is yours and start the process. 

Edited February 15, 2017 by Ontarkie