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Hey awesome people, 

 

complicated situation. I received my conditional greencard (May 2015)through K1. I sent out 751 removal of conditions a few days ago, my job wants me to work overseas for 1-3 years approximately. What do I do?  I got confused reading about the n-470 and I-131 I dont know if I should file for both or just one. The company I work for is an outsourcing company, call center globally ( US company). My concern is I dont want to loose my greencard. I can travel every year to the US to make sure I dont lose it, but what do I do and what should I file before leaving the country. I will have a PO box here because the ultimate goal is to come back to the US, im not abandoning my greencard or anything. I am leaving temporarily ( 1-3 years). Please help,  the company expects me to move in a few months. 

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https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/after-green-card-granted/international-travel-permanent-resident#abroad

 

Forms-wise it looks like you need an approved I-131, and then when you're overseas, apply for SB-1 (returning resident visa) at a US embassy or consulate. You file n-470 if you want to not "lose" residency time for the purposes of obtaining citizenship, but it's not what you need to be able to re-enter the country. 

 

How soon does your company want you to leave? Can it wait for your biometrics appointment? Is your spouse planning on keeping track of your appointment notices from USCIS? What if you get an interview, will you be prepared to travel back to the US on time for that?

05/24/2016 [Day 0] Sent in I-130/I-485

05/26/2016 [Day 2] Package received at Chicago Office

06/01/2016 [Day 8] Received 2 acceptance notification emails

06/03/2016 [Day 10] Received NOA1, priority date 05/26/2016

06/18/2016 [Day 25] Received biometrics letter, 06/27/2016

06/27/2016 [Day 34] Went to Biometrics appointment

07/11/2016 [Day 49] RFIE issued

07/25/2016 [Day 49] Sent RFIE response (total 63 days since start, RFIE paused timer AFAIK)

07/28/2016 [Day 49] RFIE response arrived and signed for by M Sievers; Case updated to 'Response received' (total 66 days)

11/09/2016 [Day 153] Interview scheduled for 12/12/16!!! (total 170 days)

12/12/2016 [Day 186] Approved at the interview (total 203 days)

12/14/2016 [Day 188] Online status update to 'approved' for both I-130 and I-485 (total 205 days)

12/15/2016 [Day 189] Card was sent! (total 206 days)

12/17/2016 [Day 191] Received two I-797s for I-130/I-485 acceptance (total 208 days)

12/19/2016 [Day 193] Card received! (total 210 days)

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30 minutes ago, philipo said:

Hey awesome people, 

 

complicated situation. I received my conditional greencard (May 2015)through K1. I sent out 751 removal of conditions a few days ago, my job wants me to work overseas for 1-3 years approximately. What do I do?  I got confused reading about the n-470 and I-131 I dont know if I should file for both or just one. The company I work for is an outsourcing company, call center globally ( US company). My concern is I dont want to loose my greencard. I can travel every year to the US to make sure I dont lose it, but what do I do and what should I file before leaving the country. I will have a PO box here because the ultimate goal is to come back to the US, im not abandoning my greencard or anything. I am leaving temporarily ( 1-3 years). Please help,  the company expects me to move in a few months. 

if you leave more then a year you abandon it, so you will need to refile.. i would not work outside the usa without a US passport in hand (especially with everything going on). 

if you want to leave and risk it, by all means do it.. are you still married? where is your spouse going? 

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File an I-131 and obtain a re-entry permit. 

 

Maintain US residency (file federal income taxes, maintain a residence/mailbox/insurance policies, etc.) and an SB-1 shouldn't be necessary. 

 

You probably wouldn't get an SB-1 approved anyway. 

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AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

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Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

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find a new job. ask yourself a few questions. is a call center job worth moving ocerseas and potentially losing your residency? are they paying you less and asking you to move overseas? is the company treating you fairly by asking you to move overseas? you don't need to answer them for us just think about them. how will you get work authorization to work in the other country, that is not the type of job the foreigners need to be imported for.

 

coming to visit the us will not allow you to keep your green card you are supposed to live in the us a visit other countries.

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yes I am still married, and my wife will come with me, it's a great opportunity for me to have international experience for the company I work for. I just want to make sure I wont lose my GC, so the I-131 will allow me to be overseas for 2 years without losing my GC? 

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10 hours ago, Cadence said:

https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/after-green-card-granted/international-travel-permanent-resident#abroad

 

Forms-wise it looks like you need an approved I-131, and then when you're overseas, apply for SB-1 (returning resident visa) at a US embassy or consulate. You file n-470 if you want to not "lose" residency time for the purposes of obtaining citizenship, but it's not what you need to be able to re-enter the country. 

 

How soon does your company want you to leave? Can it wait for your biometrics appointment? Is your spouse planning on keeping track of your appointment notices from USCIS? What if you get an interview, will you be prepared to travel back to the US on time for that?

Sorry, but this is bad advice.  An SB-1 is not appropriate and would not be approved -- it is for someone who has remained outside the US for more than a year for reasons that are outside their control (e.g., in an accident and unable to travel, a MI or whose parents kept you outside the US, etc.).  Choosing to work outside the US (unless it'seems something like being in the military and ordered to do so) is not beyond your control.  You need to apply for a re-entry permit prior to leaving the US.

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Personally, I wouldn't do it. Not with what's going on. I know you're not from one of the 7 countries but this just seems like playing with fire. I wouldn't jeopardize my residency status for anything. There are other jobs out there.

ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

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yeah, i would not do 

1 minute ago, Ketsuban said:

Personally, I wouldn't do it. Not with what's going on. I know you're not from one of the 7 countries but this just seems like playing with fire. I wouldn't jeopardize my residency status for anything. There are other jobs out there.

+1 i would not do this at all!  

tell your company you are not a USC and your visa does not allow you to work outside the country! sorry, it isnt worth the risk! i am sure u can get a better new job where you are.  

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A re entry permit is additional evidence that you re maintaining the US as your Permanent Residence.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Speak with your employers HR (Human Resources) Department and ask them to support you in complying with the essential required legal paperwork and filing since they will be responsible for out of the USA work reassignment.  If your employer has call centers located in foreign countries I am certain the corporate HR Department is adept at facilitating the handling of issues such as yours.  Best of luck in your new adventure!      

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1 minute ago, MXcompadre said:

Speak with your employers HR (Human Resources) Department and ask them to support you in complying with the essential required legal paperwork and filing since they will be responsible for out of the USA work reassignment.  If your employer has call centers located in foreign countries I am certain the corporate HR Department is adept at facilitating the handling of issues such as yours.  Best of luck in your new adventure!      

I would NEVER trust HR! they don't know much and definitely dont know immigration....

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21 hours ago, Boiler said:

A re entry permit is additional evidence that you re maintaining the US as your Permanent Residence.

 

I am reading the form but Im not understanding which one I should select: 

 

Part 2 box a I am a permanent resident or a conditional resident of the US and I am applying for a reentry permit 

          box d I am applying for an AP document to allow me to return to the US after a foreign travel

 

Which one is more suitable in my case? 

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