Yardies, at home and a farrin' (Part 4)

[jawi876 2]

ok....why is everyone lookin at me strange??? could it be cause I am jumpin up and down screamin...doin the cabbage patch and running man at the same time (yeah I know, I am old)

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NOA2....NOA2.....NOA2.....NOA2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONGRATULAIONS JAMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!! I am so happy for you. I would do the cabbage patch with you if my shoulder and neck would get out of this twisted angle. LOL...you go girl! I know you are too excited for this long awaited news!!!!!!! *smooches babes*

[Marlita 0]

NEW TOPIC!!

Anyway, moving on to more pleasant things...

Did anyone see the 'Heroes' Premiere last night? It was off the hook!! I love that show!

Gill

HA! This si hilarious! Girl you crazy!! LOL!

[jawi876 2]

Rhonda,

You seem to be pretty cool in my short period of time here. I do not wish to sound like I am jumping on your case for your opinion, but I feel in this case, we will have to continue to beat a dead horse because I'm coming in late.

With that said, you no longer have the luxury to say you are tired of everyone making things a race issue, or to bury your head in the sand like the racial struggle is of a bygone era buried with our forefathers. You are happily married to a BLACK man, albeit of Jamaican heritage. His skin color AND his nationality will often make him GUILTY before any crime is committed. When you get tired of hearing the racial play on certain situations, try placing your husband in that same situation. This should give you idea of the outrage we feel when these acts of hatred slap us in our BLACK faces. This could have easily happened to your husband just because of the color of skin, before he had a chance to utter a word.

I know that you wish for racial equality and for everyone to just get along (I am assuming because you are in an interracial marriage). However, you have to make yourself aware of the ONGOING struggle your husband will deal with when he leaves the comfort of your home.

I do not think any of the children involved should go without punishment for their deeds and actions. However, the punishment by all means should fit the crime...not the skin. In most states, the mere fact that the White young man pulled a gun, would merit that he be charged with the crime of attempted murder, aggravated assault or the appropriate punishment based on the fact that he initiated a crime and threatened another human being's life...whether he or his friends got hurt as result or not. The Black young men acted in self defense for all intensive purposes.

Moreover, the nooses hanging from a tree were not a childish prank, it was a hate crime through and through. I cannot believe that this fact is not obvious to some. I guess it would not truly be a hate crime unless there was a Black neck in the noose and a body hanging from it...often charred beyond recognition. Again, this was an obvious and omnious threat against another human being's life.

We cannot give it a rest and pretend it doesn't exsist because the struggle and journey is not over simply because our freedom marchers are not marching everyday on Selma or boycotting. We are hit every year with some type of hate crime news...such as the Black man being dragged to his death in Texas..simply for being a BLACK man at the wrong place and time. Or the young BLACK man that was hung from a tree outside his home...that was conveniently explained away as a suicide...although the mystery of how he got himself in the noose on the tree by himself was never explained.

Rhonda, sweetie, your struggle with race relations is FAAAARRR from over...it is actually just beginning. I hope that you love your BLACK Jamaican man for eternity...until death you do part...but growing weary of his JOURNEY is not a option in the equation.

Edited September 25, 2007 by jawi876

[Marlita 0]

well some sad news today in the Francis household.....our likkle guinea pig Rasta died either sometime last night or this morning ..mike noticed his eye was crusted shut so i called the vet yesterday and he was supposed to go this morning but he passed away...i didn't think i would be as upset as i was when i found him...when i called the vet i broke down because he was a likkle baby and i should have acted sooner....

Ohhh Girl I am so sorry. People don't realize that pets become a big part of our family. Don't blame yourself...it was probably just his time and unfortunately, they can't talk to us so you had no way of knowing. Just remember the good times that he shared in the house and how much joy he brought your family. Rasta and your family will be in my prayers today.

Blessed love,

Gill

i get 200 for 20 dollars check out idtcalls.com the posted rate shows somethin else but when i buy my cards it says u have 200 minutes and its like 400 for landline i been using it since feb it appears to be the best one so far the CVS one did not give me as much

Do you really get 200 minutes? Everytime I use calling cards it "says" I have so and so amount of minutes and then all of a sudden that operator comes and says I have one minute remaining after much less than the original time it gave me. I think there are hidden fees on those cards. DO you find that happens to you?

Does the Sprint card have hidden fees?

[Marlita 0]

Before I make a comment why exactly r u tired of Rhonda ?

I'm not even gonna open that can of worms.

You have to look at things like these from an historical perspective. We have to protect black boys from unjust prosecution, you don't want a better demonstration of the unfairness of the system when it comes to black boys than the SERIES OF EVENTS in Jenna. I wish I was there to show my displeasure.

If justice is not done, it must at least appear to be done, I don't support voilence but whoever shout racial slurs at another is on his own.

The school could have stopped all this long ago. What about the undercover segregation that was going on at the school.

It's not a small matter down there in Jena, we are just trying to protect our kids from prosecuters who threaten to end thier lives with the stroke of a pen.

You know they STILL have segregated Proms in the South?! Its crazy. People think that racial injustice died a long time ago, but it is live and in lving color in the southern states. You cant go no where without the confederate flag posted all over the place. You get the "N" word thrown at you all the time, nothings changed, its just not talked about as much.

[luvtravlin 0]

That is for sure. Have to support the fight for justice no matter the dawg gone color of ur skin

Let me ask you this, how would you feel if you were the mother of the kid who got beat up? Would you want the bully's to get away with it and get no punishment whatsoever? Those 6 boys were in the wrong no matter how you look at it.

I don't think you EVER heard anyone condone the boys for the fighting...nor say that they shouldn't be punished. It is all about the inequality of punishment in society mainly where it involves black males. Don't say you don't want to open up a can of worms then make a statement like this because that is EXACTLY what you wanted to do! In answer to your question...If my son had gotten beaten up I would first be angry and would want the ones involved punished. If the punishment was for attempted murder for a street fight where my son had a black eye and wasn't hospitalized...was able to attend a school function the same night...had no major injuries such as broken or fractured bones then I would want an assault charge filed but not attempted MURDER for teenage boys when the shoe could have easily been on the other shoe being that my son is black also....now IF I WAS WHITE...I may have the feelings of many whites of white priviledge thus yes I would want them tried for ATTEMPTED MURDER and then I would also see nothing wrong with the 3 nooses hanging from the tree and maybe make jokes that "oh, don't take it so seriously...they were only playing" or see no wrong in the incidents of the black boys being charged for theft of a gun because they restled it from the white boy who was threatening to shoot them. I really hope you look further at situations than the surface as to only see that the boys were wrong and that the protest were about them having no punishment!

I wasn't going to add anything to the comments being said....but....please keep in mind that this is from **MY** own personal experience.

I'm 100% caucasian and so is my son. Most of my friends and then also my sons friends are black...male & female. I've liked (and listen to) hip/hop, reggae, soul and R&B music since I think I was in the 3rd or 4th grade. I've gone to a ton of "black" concerts, functions, etc etc. Now, as a white woman, I have personally received tons and TONS of stares, rolling of eyes and have even had comments made to me about the music that I listen to from black....mostly women...... over the many years. I blow it off cause it's stupid. I was raised in a home where the word "n..r" was used almost everyday....still does. I think it again, is just ignorant & stupid!!! I have not raised my son to see color and tell him .... You do NOT like (or not like) a person just because of the color of their skin!!! I never dated a "certain color" (before I got married), I dated ...the guy, didn't matter his color. Now that I'm with (and married) to a black man....so what, just happens to be the color of his skin. We both don't "see color" our different colors.....but....the LOOKS and comments we get, again, from mostly black women totally and absolutely blows my mind !!!!

So I guess the point I'm trying to make ...it is the way we are (or our children) are raised and are being raised. If you are "taught" to fight....than they will fight. If you are "taught" to make racial comments/slurs ....than that's what the child/teenager will do. It is completely UNacceptable in my house, even by his black friends, to make comments OR even say the "n" word. I won't tolerate it at all !!!! They all know it too and completely respect me. If they behave in a way that is inappropriate (or try to, in my home), than I tell them...the acceptable way to act. Even though "I" know that it is totally appropriate in their home/environment. My son will make a comment that someone, say from his high school soccer team (a sophomore) is being a total jerk and that he wants to just "bop" them ....I tell him IGNORE that person and don't give them the satisfaction of being such an a&& !!!

I remember back about 20 yrs ago, I drove from Maryland down to Florida with 2 black friends (guys) ....wow, the BS that was said and looks given to us !!! I remember going to the gas station and the attendant popped open his door JUST to watch us. We were being goofy. I'm sure he thought that "I" was being kidnapped!! We all just laughed about it.

It makes ME sick to DEATH that our country, even today, we still live with these absoLUTELY ridiculous prejudices !!!!! Come on....can't we all just GET ALONG ?????!!!!!!

I'm not trying to offend anyone at all, just giving you *my* personal experiences.

[luvtravlin 0]

Rhonda,

You seem to be pretty cool in my short period of time here. I do not wish to sound like I am jumping on your case for your opinion, but I feel in this case, we will have to continue to beat a dead horse because I'm coming in late.

With that said, you no longer have the luxury to say you are tired of everyone making things a race issue, or to bury your head in the sand like the racial struggle is of a bygone era buried with our forefathers. You are happily married to a BLACK man, albeit of Jamaican heritage. His skin color AND his nationality will often make him GUILTY before any crime is committed. When you get tired of hearing the racial play on certain situations, try placing your husband in that same situation. This should give you idea of the outrage we feel when these acts of hatred slap us in our BLACK faces. This could have easily happened to your husband just because of the color of skin, before he had a chance to utter a word.

I know that you wish for racial equality and for everyone to just get along (I am assuming because you are in an interracial marriage). However, you have to make yourself aware of the ONGOING struggle your husband will deal with when he leaves the comfort of your home.

I do not think any of the children involved should go without punishment for their deeds and actions. However, the punishment by all means should fit the crime...not the skin. In most states, the mere fact that the White young man pulled a gun, would merit that he be charged with the crime of attempted murder, aggravated assault or the appropriate punishment based on the fact that he initiated a crime and threatened another human being's life...whether he or his friends got hurt as result or not. The Black young men acted in self defense for all intensive purposes.

Moreover, the nooses hanging from a tree were not a childish prank, it was a hate crime through and through. I cannot believe that this fact is not obvious to some. I guess it would not truly be a hate crime unless there was a Black neck in the noose and a body hanging from it...often charred beyond recognition. Again, this was an obvious and omnious threat against another human being's life.

We cannot give it a rest and pretend it doesn't exsist because the struggle and journey is not over simply because our freedom marchers are not marching everyday on Selma or boycotting. We are hit every year with some type of hate crime news...such as the Black man being dragged to his death in Texas..simply for being a BLACK man at the wrong place and time. Or the young BLACK man that was hung from a tree outside his home...that was conveniently explained away as a suicide...although the mystery of how he got himself in the noose on the tree by himself was never explained.

Rhonda, sweetie, your struggle with race relations is FAAAARRR from over...it is actually just beginning. I hope that you love your BLACK Jamaican man for eternity...until death you do part...but growing weary of his JOURNEY is not a option in the equation.

Very well said !!!

[nyseness 0]

Question????? Please help.

Do pre-existing medical conditions follow from Jamaica to the US? A's daughter is currently hospitalized and may have a heart condition. We want to bring her here...but I'm afraid that she will not be able to be covered under my medical coverage if they find out she already had the heart condition. Do you have any idea on whether the medical exam in Kingston for the visa will include this info?

Never heard of it being included, even if it WERE, there is no way the insurance company could find out from the USCIS.

Thank you for responding. I am freaking out because I feel so helpless. A said he is counting on me to be his rock, he needs me to be strong and be the voice of reason when he is losing it, and I cry as soon as he hangs up. I'm still in pain, and I am a nervous wreck! Our baby girl is suffering, and I can't do anything. *crying*

My sister scared me and told me that medical records follow you no matter what, and that she would not be able to be covered under my insurance because it would be a pre-existing condition.

Also, her mother doesn't want to let her or her older sis come...I told him to try and presuade her with 6 months here and 6 months there. HELP ME!!!!! \o/ /o\ /o\

Jawi, don't worry.

Jamaica doesn't have a centralized medical system, there is no way the insurance company can check even if they tried.

When my husband added me to his insurance, there was no question asked, I guess it depends on the insurance company if they even ask ANY questions....

Being added to an ins plan is ok, but when the person goes to the doctor it can be a different story. Basically it boils down to the ICD9 code (diagnosis). Depending on that it can be part of the pre-existing clause and yes every ins is different. The Benefit Coordinator is the person who will be able to tell you once they screen your benefits.

[Marlita 0]

I wasn't going to add anything to the comments being said....but....please keep in mind that this is from **MY** own personal experience.

I'm 100% caucasian and so is my son. Most of my friends and then also my sons friends are black...male & female. I've liked (and listen to) hip/hop, reggae, soul and R&B music since I think I was in the 3rd or 4th grade. I've gone to a ton of "black" concerts, functions, etc etc. Now, as a white woman, I have personally received tons and TONS of stares, rolling of eyes and have even had comments made to me about the music that I listen to from black....mostly women...... over the many years. I blow it off cause it's stupid. I was raised in a home where the word "n..r" was used almost everyday....still does. I think it again, is just ignorant & stupid!!! I have not raised my son to see color and tell him .... You do NOT like (or not like) a person just because of the color of their skin!!! I never dated a "certain color" (before I got married), I dated ...the guy, didn't matter his color. Now that I'm with (and married) to a black man....so what, just happens to be the color of his skin. We both don't "see color" our different colors.....but....the LOOKS and comments we get, again, from mostly black women totally and absolutely blows my mind !!!!

So I guess the point I'm trying to make ...it is the way we are (or our children) are raised and are being raised. If you are "taught" to fight....than they will fight. If you are "taught" to make racial comments/slurs ....than that's what the child/teenager will do. It is completely UNacceptable in my house, even by his black friends, to make comments OR even say the "n" word. I won't tolerate it at all !!!! They all know it too and completely respect me. If they behave in a way that is inappropriate (or try to, in my home), than I tell them...the acceptable way to act. Even though "I" know that it is totally appropriate in their home/environment. My son will make a comment that someone, say from his high school soccer team (a sophomore) is being a total jerk and that he wants to just "bop" them ....I tell him IGNORE that person and don't give them the satisfaction of being such an a&& !!!

I remember back about 20 yrs ago, I drove from Maryland down to Florida with 2 black friends (guys) ....wow, the BS that was said and looks given to us !!! I remember going to the gas station and the attendant popped open his door JUST to watch us. We were being goofy. I'm sure he thought that "I" was being kidnapped!! We all just laughed about it.

It makes ME sick to DEATH that our country, even today, we still live with these absoLUTELY ridiculous prejudices !!!!! Come on....can't we all just GET ALONG ?????!!!!!!

I'm not trying to offend anyone at all, just giving you *my* personal experiences.

Well the reason they stare is a whole nother issue, we won't go into on here. At least not today.

[jawi876 2]

Marlita, your hair is gorgeous in the profile picture. Is it cut like Jada Pinkett's in Jason's Lyrics? I love it. Can I see more wedding pics? Please???

[luvtravlin 0]

I wasn't going to add anything to the comments being said....but....please keep in mind that this is from **MY** own personal experience.

I'm 100% caucasian and so is my son. Most of my friends and then also my sons friends are black...male & female. I've liked (and listen to) hip/hop, reggae, soul and R&B music since I think I was in the 3rd or 4th grade. I've gone to a ton of "black" concerts, functions, etc etc. Now, as a white woman, I have personally received tons and TONS of stares, rolling of eyes and have even had comments made to me about the music that I listen to from black....mostly women...... over the many years. I blow it off cause it's stupid. I was raised in a home where the word "n..r" was used almost everyday....still does. I think it again, is just ignorant & stupid!!! I have not raised my son to see color and tell him .... You do NOT like (or not like) a person just because of the color of their skin!!! I never dated a "certain color" (before I got married), I dated ...the guy, didn't matter his color. Now that I'm with (and married) to a black man....so what, just happens to be the color of his skin. We both don't "see color" our different colors.....but....the LOOKS and comments we get, again, from mostly black women totally and absolutely blows my mind !!!!

So I guess the point I'm trying to make ...it is the way we are (or our children) are raised and are being raised. If you are "taught" to fight....than they will fight. If you are "taught" to make racial comments/slurs ....than that's what the child/teenager will do. It is completely UNacceptable in my house, even by his black friends, to make comments OR even say the "n" word. I won't tolerate it at all !!!! They all know it too and completely respect me. If they behave in a way that is inappropriate (or try to, in my home), than I tell them...the acceptable way to act. Even though "I" know that it is totally appropriate in their home/environment. My son will make a comment that someone, say from his high school soccer team (a sophomore) is being a total jerk and that he wants to just "bop" them ....I tell him IGNORE that person and don't give them the satisfaction of being such an a&& !!!

I remember back about 20 yrs ago, I drove from Maryland down to Florida with 2 black friends (guys) ....wow, the BS that was said and looks given to us !!! I remember going to the gas station and the attendant popped open his door JUST to watch us. We were being goofy. I'm sure he thought that "I" was being kidnapped!! We all just laughed about it.

It makes ME sick to DEATH that our country, even today, we still live with these absoLUTELY ridiculous prejudices !!!!! Come on....can't we all just GET ALONG ?????!!!!!!

I'm not trying to offend anyone at all, just giving you *my* personal experiences.

Well the reason they stare is a whole nother issue, we won't go into on here. At least not today.

Please enlighten me !!!

[Marlita 0]

Marlita, your hair is gorgeous in the profile picture. Is it cut like Jada Pinkett's in Jason's Lyrics? I love it. Can I see more wedding pics? Please???

Thanks Jawi! Girl that was a pic of me smackin' on some chiken at the Island Grill airport. I'll send you a PM

[^KK^ 3]

Marlita, your hair is gorgeous in the profile picture. Is it cut like Jada Pinkett's in Jason's Lyrics? I love it. Can I see more wedding pics? Please???

I was thinking the same thing about Jada.....

Marlita...you hair is so cute......

[jawi876 2]

That is for sure. Have to support the fight for justice no matter the dawg gone color of ur skin

Let me ask you this, how would you feel if you were the mother of the kid who got beat up? Would you want the bully's to get away with it and get no punishment whatsoever? Those 6 boys were in the wrong no matter how you look at it.

I don't think you EVER heard anyone condone the boys for the fighting...nor say that they shouldn't be punished. It is all about the inequality of punishment in society mainly where it involves black males. Don't say you don't want to open up a can of worms then make a statement like this because that is EXACTLY what you wanted to do! In answer to your question...If my son had gotten beaten up I would first be angry and would want the ones involved punished. If the punishment was for attempted murder for a street fight where my son had a black eye and wasn't hospitalized...was able to attend a school function the same night...had no major injuries such as broken or fractured bones then I would want an assault charge filed but not attempted MURDER for teenage boys when the shoe could have easily been on the other shoe being that my son is black also....now IF I WAS WHITE...I may have the feelings of many whites of white priviledge thus yes I would want them tried for ATTEMPTED MURDER and then I would also see nothing wrong with the 3 nooses hanging from the tree and maybe make jokes that "oh, don't take it so seriously...they were only playing" or see no wrong in the incidents of the black boys being charged for theft of a gun because they restled it from the white boy who was threatening to shoot them. I really hope you look further at situations than the surface as to only see that the boys were wrong and that the protest were about them having no punishment!

I wasn't going to add anything to the comments being said....but....please keep in mind that this is from **MY** own personal experience.

I'm 100% caucasian and so is my son. Most of my friends and then also my sons friends are black...male & female. I've liked (and listen to) hip/hop, reggae, soul and R&B music since I think I was in the 3rd or 4th grade. I've gone to a ton of "black" concerts, functions, etc etc. Now, as a white woman, I have personally received tons and TONS of stares, rolling of eyes and have even had comments made to me about the music that I listen to from black....mostly women...... over the many years. I blow it off cause it's stupid. I was raised in a home where the word "n..r" was used almost everyday....still does. I think it again, is just ignorant & stupid!!! I have not raised my son to see color and tell him .... You do NOT like (or not like) a person just because of the color of their skin!!! I never dated a "certain color" (before I got married), I dated ...the guy, didn't matter his color. Now that I'm with (and married) to a black man....so what, just happens to be the color of his skin. We both don't "see color" our different colors.....but....the LOOKS and comments we get, again, from mostly black women totally and absolutely blows my mind !!!!

So I guess the point I'm trying to make ...it is the way we are (or our children) are raised and are being raised. If you are "taught" to fight....than they will fight. If you are "taught" to make racial comments/slurs ....than that's what the child/teenager will do. It is completely UNacceptable in my house, even by his black friends, to make comments OR even say the "n" word. I won't tolerate it at all !!!! They all know it too and completely respect me. If they behave in a way that is inappropriate (or try to, in my home), than I tell them...the acceptable way to act. Even though "I" know that it is totally appropriate in their home/environment. My son will make a comment that someone, say from his high school soccer team (a sophomore) is being a total jerk and that he wants to just "bop" them ....I tell him IGNORE that person and don't give them the satisfaction of being such an a&& !!!

I remember back about 20 yrs ago, I drove from Maryland down to Florida with 2 black friends (guys) ....wow, the BS that was said and looks given to us !!! I remember going to the gas station and the attendant popped open his door JUST to watch us. We were being goofy. I'm sure he thought that "I" was being kidnapped!! We all just laughed about it.

It makes ME sick to DEATH that our country, even today, we still live with these absoLUTELY ridiculous prejudices !!!!! Come on....can't we all just GET ALONG ?????!!!!!!

I'm not trying to offend anyone at all, just giving you *my* personal experiences.

I understand your experiences, and to be stared at just because you are married to a Black man is crazy...and it is not cool. You stated that if a child is "taught" to fight or sees certain things done in their household...then their actions will reflect the same. However, you are contradicting yourself because you came from the same "said" environment...but you are convinced that you are different from your parents, and race does not matter to you. Care to clarify? You made an assumption that the Black boys were taught to fight at home. That may or may not be true, but you can't make that assumption without the same assumption being made about you because of your family background. Just a thought.

[nyseness 0]

NEW TOPIC!!

Anyway, moving on to more pleasant things...

Did anyone see the 'Heroes' Premiere last night? It was off the hook!! I love that show!

Gill

No I didn't get a chance b/c I had to work last night. I do have it on my DVR to I will watch it later this week along w/ Prison Break.