February 2017 I-129F Filers

[RaptureSongbird 533]

12 minutes ago, Lovemycroatianman said:

Thank you..this whole thing sucks balls and we have a 20 yr gap...me being 40 him 20...I am soooo worried about that...from my research the older woman thing doesn't fly well cause of having kids issue ... that's why older men younger women is more accepted...plus....my stress is already elevated with having 6....yes 6 kids....3 are adults...when this started I had only 4 with me....1 more left then 2 came back and...its caused more stress for me and my fiance cause they r close to his age...plus I have 2 with adhd one of which has  autism and one with aspergers...this has been one of the most difficult things I've had to deal with especially because he doesnt know exactly if he wants to stay...because of the whole leaving his country and my kids....he doesnt know how he'll adapt...

Its an enormous weight on my shoulders and my life has basically stopped...it has left a very negative energy almost a feeling if angst inside of me...I am trying to learn to control it and keeping myself distracted taking classes online....but being an anxious over thinker...sometimes...that is impossible...and this IS my place to vent a bit and also show my empathy or give help when I can....

I understand you and it sounds like you have a lot going on in your life besides just moving through this process.  I'm sure it's also adding stress/negative thoughts for you with your fiance being unsure of moving forward.  It's a very difficult process to go through, first we all have ended up falling in love with someone who lives a great distance from us.  Then, we continue to be with that person, spend time together in person when we can, and our relationship and feelings for each other grow and grow.  Then, we decide to take the plunge and move onto marriage and in order to do that we have to go through this long process with a bunch of paperwork and steps of hurry up and then wait.  I know it was my choice, somewhat, to meet and fall in love with someone who is overseas but I also believe that fate brought us together and we were meant to be.  And that's where I end up getting a bit frustrated, 2 US Citizens can meet one day, get a marriage license the next day, and in some cases get married that same day or the very next day but since I fell in love with someone who is not a US Citizen we have to prove our relationship, prove that we love each other, and let someone else decide our future together.

 

I also understand the worry about the age difference.  That was one of my biggest worries with my fiance as well, I'm 38 and he's 23, and I thought for sure this would cause a hiccup for us during this process, but luckily it didn't.  I haven't shared much about us or our trials here for a number of reasons but it hasn't always been easy for us.  My fiance is from an Eastern European country where homosexuality is still negatively looked at by a majority of society and people don't come out due to fear of harassment/violence/blackmail/etc.  My fiance has only been able to come out to his mom and a few close friends who have kept his sexuality a secret.  He made the choice to move from his home country to the UK so we could meet in person and move our relationship forward.  And now he's sacrificing even more by coming here, where he has no family and no friends, and starting a life with me.  I often feel very guilty about this knowing that I am asking a lot from him to uproot his life just to be with me in a country he's never even been to before.  But then I come here, I see everyone else who is going through this process, I see their love for their partners, their support of complete strangers they've never met before going through the same process, and that helps to make the day a little bit better.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

7 hours ago, Estibaliz said:

You don't need the NVC number to fill in DS-160. It specifically asks for your WAC number.

But that's right. You can fill the form whenever you want, but don't submit it until the case is Ready at the Embassy

 I never referred to a NVC number, I stated a case number from NVC totally different. The case number is NOT the "WAC" number as the WAC number is

 for the Service Center that your petition is at for processing. Once it leaves USCIS and arrives at NVC they assign a Case Number which also starts with 3 letters followed by 10 numbers. The application receipt/petition number is 13 characters long and the first three characters are letters.  So if you were going to have your interview at US Embassy Manila (USEM) the number would be MNL##########.

 

The number you are referring to (WAC) is a receipt number and they start with three letters and follow by a series of numbers, for example EAC-06-123-45678. 

 

Here is how to understand what the numbers mean.

 

The first three letters indicate the USCIS service center which is processing the petition, as follows:
– EAC – Vermont Service Center;
– WAC – California Service Center;
– LIN – Nebraska Service Center; and
– SRC – Texas Service Center.

 

The case number, for your Embassy is what you need to finish the DS-160 and WAC is not that number. Without the case number you're dead in the water.

 

And when filling out the DS-160 it does not ask for the WAC# it's asking for and I quote from the application help ribbon next to the question.

 

Help: Application Receipt/Petition Number

Your application receipt/petition number was given to you by the Department of Homeland Security’s United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) after you filed your petition application at a USCIS Service Center. The application receipt/petition number is 13 characters long and the first three characters are letters.

Edited September 2, 2017 by Greenbaum

[Lovemycroatianman 278]

4 minutes ago, RaptureSongbird said:

I understand you and it sounds like you have a lot going on in your life besides just moving through this process.  I'm sure it's also adding stress/negative thoughts for you with your fiance being unsure of moving forward.  It's a very difficult process to go through, first we all have ended up falling in love with someone who lives a great distance from us.  Then, we continue to be with that person, spend time together in person when we can, and our relationship and feelings for each other grow and grow.  Then, we decide to take the plunge and move onto marriage and in order to do that we have to go through this long process with a bunch of paperwork and steps of hurry up and then wait.  I know it was my choice, somewhat, to meet and fall in love with someone who is overseas but I also believe that fate brought us together and we were meant to be.  And that's where I end up getting a bit frustrated, 2 US Citizens can meet one day, get a marriage license the next day, and in some cases get married that same day or the very next day but since I fell in love with someone who is not a US Citizen we have to prove our relationship, prove that we love each other, and let someone else decide our future together.

 

I also understand the worry about the age difference.  That was one of my biggest worries with my fiance as well, I'm 38 and he's 23, and I thought for sure this would cause a hiccup for us during this process, but luckily it didn't.  I haven't shared much about us or our trials here for a number of reasons but it hasn't always been easy for us.  My fiance is from an Eastern European country where homosexuality is still negatively looked at by a majority of society and people don't come out due to fear of harassment/violence/blackmail/etc.  My fiance has only been able to come out to his mom and a few close friends who have kept his sexuality a secret.  He made the choice to move from his home country to the UK so we could meet in person and move our relationship forward.  And now he's sacrificing even more by coming here, where he has no family and no friends, and starting a life with me.  I often feel very guilty about this knowing that I am asking a lot from him to uproot his life just to be with me in a country he's never even been to before.  But then I come here, I see everyone else who is going through this process, I see their love for their partners, their support of complete strangers they've never met before going through the same process, and that helps to make the day a little bit better.

I totally feel you....i feel bad a lot of times....I've even told him...I can let you go....I feel so much pain taking him from his family...they are all very close. And I feel so much anxiety about my kids....and him getting along...he has his own anxiety issues....and he tells me he wants to try as hard as he can but just can't say for sure and as much as I get this....after almost 2 years, a divorce, flying to him 4 times and the visa bull....I just can't help but to have a negative vibe and wonder...what the hell am I doing at times.....especially because This is a new love experience for me on a level I've never known and its scary as hell to imagine losing it....and yes...I do have abandonment issues....my dad left when I was 18 months and my mom gave me to my grandparents at 7 when she divorced my stepdad and I was separated from my younger bro....some things leave a whole in your heart...and altho I've come along way....there is still a tender scar if you rub hard enough...thank you for sharing your story...I wish u the best.

[RaptureSongbird 533]

7 minutes ago, Lovemycroatianman said:

I totally feel you....i feel bad a lot of times....I've even told him...I can let you go....I feel so much pain taking him from his family...they are all very close. And I feel so much anxiety about my kids....and him getting along...he has his own anxiety issues....and he tells me he wants to try as hard as he can but just can't say for sure and as much as I get this....after almost 2 years, a divorce, flying to him 4 times and the visa bull....I just can't help but to have a negative vibe and wonder...what the hell am I doing at times.....especially because This is a new love experience for me on a level I've never known and its scary as hell to imagine losing it....and yes...I do have abandonment issues....my dad left when I was 18 months and my mom gave me to my grandparents at 7 when she divorced my stepdad and I was separated from my younger bro....some things leave a whole in your heart...and altho I've come along way....there is still a tender scar if you rub hard enough...thank you for sharing your story...I wish u the best.

Thank you for sharing too and I wish you the best too!  It's nice to see someone else have the same thoughts that I've been having.  I know exactly what you mean about a new love experience on a different level and it being scary and amazing, along with fear of losing it.  After my last relationship I wasn't sure that I wanted to try anymore to be with someone.  But then I met my fiance and it was just like WOW, this is what love is supposed to be like, this is what a relationship is supposed to be like, I really had no idea it could be the way it was until I met my fiance.  He has changed my life and my perspective on a number of issues and levels and made me see what true love, sacrifice, and commitment is really like.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

2 hours ago, twinee said:

When should I complete the DS-160? My case is in transit to the consulate. Should I wait for them to receive it first?

 

 

I just read up and I guess I should wait until it is ready at the embassy and send the file to my fiancé to upload since she is the beneficiary.

When you have your case number from NVC you can file the DS-160. Get the Embassy Letter (EL) for Turkey from this link: https://tr.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/91/2017/06/K1K2-Visa-Instructions-EN.pdf

 

Follow the instructions from their website here: https://tr.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/fiancee-visa/the-interview/

 

The Embassy will send you additional information but use the EL as a check list when securing all the documentation that they require. Good luck.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

6 hours ago, RaptureSongbird said:

 

 

@Greenbaum is a great source of information but can also come across as blunt sometimes, at least from my perspective.  I don't know if that is their intention, their personality, their writing style, or just my perspective, but I've read some comments where I've felt that way.  I also don't think it's a fair comparison between waiting for the LPR 10 GC and still waiting for your K1.  For those of us who are still going through the K1 process, we are still waiting to be with our fiance/es while, if you are going through AOS or ROC, you are more than likely with your spouse, living with your spouse, regularly seeing your spouse, and not having to deal with the stress of missing your partner.  Greenbaum said "So I waited a few months longer as not having it was not interfering with anything we were doing" which was great for them but is not the case for those who are going through K1 and waiting to be with their partner.  Being together makes a difference and trying to plan your life and being together while going through K1 does interfere with everything.

 

 

If you refer back to some of my post's I tell you straight up that I don't sugar coat things. Why should I when a bit of information could be important. When I give recommendations or answer questions I do it with links to where the information is available or is stated. I don't give feel good answers.

 

I suppose with any new love there is a tendency to go through the "star struck" period. I get that. Yes I see where you would say that ROC is not like a K1. I have experienced both and in some ways they could be skewed with your interruption, but I see it as another hoop you must jump through, placed by the government, and nothing you can do. The government does see your love or the fact that you are missing each other. You're just a file in their eyes, that they must process and while doing so, MUST keep the American public SAFE. That I can appreciate.

 

 

[RaptureSongbird 533]

15 minutes ago, Greenbaum said:

If you refer back to some of my post's I tell you straight up that I don't sugar coat things. Why should I when a bit of information could be important. When I give recommendations or answer questions I do it with links to where the information is available or is stated. I don't give feel good answers.

 

I suppose with any new love there is a tendency to go through the "star struck" period. I get that. Yes I see where you would say that ROC is not like a K1. I have experienced both and in some ways they could be skewed with your interruption, but I see it as another hoop you must jump through, placed by the government, and nothing you can do. The government does see your love or the fact that you are missing each other. You're just a file in their eyes, that they must process and while doing so, MUST keep the American public SAFE. That I can appreciate.

 

 

And that's why I said you are a great source of information, you do provide great resources with links in helping people and I appreciate that fact.  I also understand that you don't sugar coat anything and get straight to the point and that works with some people and not with others.  Some of us aren't here just for information or resources but for the sense of community and support that happens in offering emotional support/understanding as we make our way through the hoops we go through with this process.  I agree with you that information is important but I also feel like empathy is important as well.  Some people need that outlet of emotional support, some don't, and with everything in life when people have different needs/viewpoints/expectations/perceptions some friction can arise.

 

I also agree with you that, for the most part, there isn't anything we can do besides wait once we submit the paperwork no matter which step in the process any of us are in.  I see from your timeline that you've been through the whole process, from K1 to AOS to ROC, and you've made it through all of the hoops.  I certainly look forward to the day when we're at the point you are.  My point/perspective, though, is that it's likely a lot easier to make it through the hoops of AOS and ROC because you are already with your partner then it is when you're going through K1 and still waiting to have your partner here.

 

In terms of keeping the American public safe, I do appreciate that this is part of the government's responsibility and part of this process is security checks to make sure we are kept safe and avoid terrorism.  I'll leave my comment on that aspect there as I don't want to diverge too far into political discourse on keeping America safe.

[FindHerKeepHer 244]

1 hour ago, Lovemycroatianman said:

I totally feel you....i feel bad a lot of times....I've even told him...I can let you go....I feel so much pain taking him from his family...they are all very close. And I feel so much anxiety about my kids....and him getting along...he has his own anxiety issues....and he tells me he wants to try as hard as he can but just can't say for sure and as much as I get this....after almost 2 years, a divorce, flying to him 4 times and the visa bull....I just can't help but to have a negative vibe and wonder...what the hell am I doing at times.....especially because This is a new love experience for me on a level I've never known and its scary as hell to imagine losing it....and yes...I do have abandonment issues....my dad left when I was 18 months and my mom gave me to my grandparents at 7 when she divorced my stepdad and I was separated from my younger bro....some things leave a whole in your heart...and altho I've come along way....there is still a tender scar if you rub hard enough...thank you for sharing your story...I wish u the best.

Wow.... I'm sending all the love I can and I will prayer that u find peace in everything. I hope in the end all your trials are turned into greatness and you continue to overcome it all until there is only happiness and peace. I'm sure the 'little' u have said here will help build someone up and remind them that there is never really a reason to be sad cuz there are others facing way more and I hope we can also build u up and continue to be a shoulder for you to lean on through everything... blessings my friend! 

[Estibaliz 3,037]

1 hour ago, Greenbaum said:

 I never referred to a NVC number, I stated a case number from NVC totally different. The case number is NOT the "WAC" number as the WAC number is

 for the Service Center that your petition is at for processing. Once it leaves USCIS and arrives at NVC they assign a Case Number which also starts with 3 letters followed by 10 numbers. The application receipt/petition number is 13 characters long and the first three characters are letters.  So if you were going to have your interview at US Embassy Manila (USEM) the number would be MNL##########.

 

The number you are referring to (WAC) is a receipt number and they start with three letters and follow by a series of numbers, for example EAC-06-123-45678. 

 

Here is how to understand what the numbers mean.

 

The first three letters indicate the USCIS service center which is processing the petition, as follows:
– EAC – Vermont Service Center;
– WAC – California Service Center;
– LIN – Nebraska Service Center; and
– SRC – Texas Service Center.

 

The case number, for your Embassy is what you need to finish the DS-160 and WAC is not that number. Without the case number you're dead in the water.

 

And when filling out the DS-160 it does not ask for the WAC# it's asking for and I quote from the application help ribbon next to the question.

 

Help: Application Receipt/Petition Number

Your application receipt/petition number was given to you by the Department of Homeland Security’s United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) after you filed your petition application at a USCIS Service Center. The application receipt/petition number is 13 characters long and the first three characters are letters.

Exactly, you need the WAC number, which is the number provided by USCIS (the MNL, LND, MDD, etc number is provided by NVC) after you filed the petition application (not the MNL... number that you get after your application was approved).

Actually, it couldn't be clearer to me: APPLICATION RECEIPT.

 

Anyway, I've seen people using any of those numbers, and no one reported an issue with the form at the Embassy

Edited September 2, 2017 by Estibaliz

[TexasHeartsIndia 371]

Wow... there are quite a few snarky remarks these past couple of days. I have been busy so I haven't kept up as much. So... here's my snarky comment in addition to all the snark... because my level of don't-give-a-**** is off the chart these days....

 

This has been an incredibly calm, respectful, supportive, encouraging community. We vent, we share joy, we share sorrow, we share non-visa-related cool stories. I have REALLY appreciated all the comments. We're all cheering for one another and it's awesome. We all filled together and share a similar path.

 

@j N j You are not a February filer (by your timeline) but we welcome comments from all. However, I have a HUGE issue with someone coming into our forum and being disrespectful and negative toward my fellow February filers. So if you cannot be compassionate and understanding like the rest of us, I would ask that you please find another forum to troll. We got this... we got each other. We don't need your comments to the contrary. If you decide to continue following this forum, then please do so with respect.

 

I am sure others share my sentiment when I say that we wish you the best.

 

End of snarky-snark. Peace.

[Lovemycroatianman 278]

1 hour ago, FindHerKeepHer said:

Wow.... I'm sending all the love I can and I will prayer that u find peace in everything. I hope in the end all your trials are turned into greatness and you continue to overcome it all until there is only happiness and peace. I'm sure the 'little' u have said here will help build someone up and remind them that there is never really a reason to be sad cuz there are others facing way more and I hope we can also build u up and continue to be a shoulder for you to lean on through everything... blessings my friend! 

Thank you for this.....I am the usual suffer in silence person...but I have learned, its easier to refuel and feel less alone in a community...but you have to share and equally help....this has def drained my energy but the ones on here who truly listen and try to sympathize/empathize go a long way to helping me refuel some of that lost energy that I need to keep my hope alive and keep trucking on. Thanks again for your kind words and I am so happy that you guys are finally together.

Edited September 2, 2017 by Lovemycroatianman

[Lovemycroatianman 278]

I think we have all got enough reality in this process and truly don't need anymore....especially in this community. I don't need ANYONE telling me reality of American government when I lived here my whole life and deal with them. Its very obvious they don't care. However....I do feel this forum and this particular posting area was made for us to help each other, not put each other down...no matter of factly stuff and hiding behind truth to prove some point. If your personality isn't even enough for showing human compassion and comfort...then be what you are...informational only and pass on trying to help anyone in any emotional aspect. Just stick to what your geared for...no excuses needed. Thanks. There are others here who are quite good at it and we don't need anyone giving us truths or realities...cause truly....we LIVE it. Just help where you can and leave the rest to the others. We all serve different purposes. Lets not make anything any worse for someone just because it isn't our strong suit. I have enough negative feelings without someone making it worse. That being said..everyone carry on with their role in a positive aspect. 

Edited September 2, 2017 by Lovemycroatianman

[Joshua Song 5]

Well I just got a notice on my noa1 and got a RFE.  Does it take long for the after I resend the RFE? 

[GyaBran 40]

7 hours ago, Lovemycroatianman said:

Thank you for this.....I am the usual suffer in silence person...but I have learned, its easier to refuel and feel less alone in a community...but you have to share and equally help....this has def drained my energy but the ones on here who truly listen and try to sympathize/empathize go a long way to helping me refuel some of that lost energy that I need to keep my hope alive and keep trucking on. Thanks again for your kind words and I am so happy that you guys are finally together.

I haven't said much in this forum but I have been a part of it. I send you positive energy! <3 It's been so hard for many of us, almost at the brink of even losing ourselves and our fiancee because of the pressure. And it is quite a challenge when you are dealing with so much more than just this Visa. I find myself taking care of our 4 month old baby and he is far away from me. I am raising my child without his father because of this Visa. And this forum has kept my hope up and has made me more patient. And I AM SO happy I get to find some peace of mind in this forum. Outside of this forum, I am alone. THANK YOU and EVERYONE HERE that has shared so much with everyone!

[RaptureSongbird 533]

12 hours ago, Joshua Song said:

Well I just got a notice on my noa1 and got a RFE.  Does it take long for the after I resend the RFE? 

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a consistent time to processing RFE responses right now.  Sometimes it's 2-3 weeks, sometimes it's 2 months, it's just hard to say based on what we've see happen to others in this thread.