Report: Trump halted $181 billion in regulatory costs on first day in office

[smilesammich 10,727]

4 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Not sure what exactly you are referring to in regards to scotus and taxpayers. 

Regards to the first part, I get that those people get away with alot but who allows them to? Who enables it by loopholes and weak enforcement? They only enforce the law against the little guy. Why should people even have to pay for an accountant? Tax code could and should be made simple enough that any child can do it. I'm not a big government person so I don't appreciate the overreach into my pocket taxing me at every turn, regardless of whether or not other thieves get away with not paying it. To me they're all thieves - I see no difference between those trying to steal, and those doing whatever in their power to avoid being stolen from.

i'm saying, those that 'allow it' are now the same as those who 'benefit from allowing it". swamp effectively clogged beyond repair.

[OriZ 3,157]

16 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i'm saying, those that 'allow it' are now the same as those who 'benefit from allowing it". swamp effectively clogged beyond repair.

lol. that's one way to look at it.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

41 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I don't mail mine. It's like I drive to work in a very macho manly really great  4 wd truck and Trump rides in a bad a limo  Bottom line we both get in a vehicle and go to work 

I always mail mine.  13 April every year.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

My buddys wife just went in. It was 27K and the wrote it down to 4K something. Not quite as much, but Insurance companies do get a huge break on the going rate. 

OMG, you MUST be making this up to fit your own personal narrative.  Reported!

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

for the life of me i don't understand why you or idwaf believe your personal/business tax situation and dealings are even close to what trump co got going on. seriously - stop. you're not even in the same ball park. he has teams of people who do this stuff, and he weasels his way out of paying legitimate debt whenever possible SO OF COURSE he neglects his tax responsibility whenever possible. i'm not saying he does this illegally. i am saying he's making sure the tax code continues to benefit him and his sort. both of you can spare me the 'lessons' on how taxes work for grownups.

You just contradicted yourself.  If he has TEAMS of people who do this stuff for him, then by definition he cannot weasel his way out of anything.  And I am sure his teams are well versed in tax law, and comply with said laws.  

 

And reducing one's tax liability is NOT the same thing as neglecting tax responsibility.  Unless you are calculating your taxes, and adding an extra $2-300 to what you owe the IRS, then you, too, are doing everything in your power to lower your tax bill.  We all do.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

46 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Not sure what exactly you are referring to in regards to scotus and taxpayers. 

Regards to the first part, I get that those people get away with alot but who allows them to? Who enables it by loopholes and weak enforcement? They only enforce the law against the little guy. Why should people even have to pay for an accountant? Tax code could and should be made simple enough that any child can do it. I'm not a big government person so I don't appreciate the overreach into my pocket taxing me at every turn, regardless of whether or not other thieves get away with not paying it. To me they're all thieves - I see no difference between those trying to steal, and those doing whatever in their power to avoid being stolen from.

Let's start a petition... no tax on tampons, and free tax lawyers for all citizens!!

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, IDWAF said:

You just contradicted yourself.  If he has TEAMS of people who do this stuff for him, then by definition he cannot weasel his way out of anything.  And I am sure his teams are well versed in tax law, and comply with said laws.  

 

And reducing one's tax liability is NOT the same thing as neglecting tax responsibility.  Unless you are calculating your taxes, and adding an extra $2-300 to what you owe the IRS, then you, too, are doing everything in your power to lower your tax bill.  We all do.

i fail to see the contradiction. i didn't say teams of people on payroll independent of trump. i'm glad you have such confidence in trump.

 

its a matter of personal moral and standard. and how much civic value and integrity you align with a rich stranger's personal usage of the tax code to their advantage, speak for yourself.

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, IDWAF said:

Let's start a petition... no tax on tampons, and free tax lawyers for all citizens!!

jeez that's the whole point, the majority of americans don't need tax lawyers - there's no loops for them!

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

It's not a lie if you believe it.

 

And I would most definitely question that story about the insurance payout. Without actually seeing it, I don't believe it. Kinda like your other misnomer about the Canadian nurse who made $150K that only came out to be about $60K American money, I don't believe it. You seem to conveniently come up with bizzarre stories that don't make sense quite often. There's a pattern there.

If I still had the bills in my possession, I would post them.  I don't.  Doesn't make it any less true.  Your lack of belief is your own problem.

[smilesammich 10,727]

13 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

OMG, you MUST be making this up to fit your own personal narrative.  Reported!

also as usual, you're the only one screaming reported 

[bcking 3,157]

12 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

No, I just have a thing about being called a liar.  Something you wouldn't do in person, but the internets makes you brave.  It's a common affliction, I realize, but I don't have to like it.

Sorry is it a lie, or just an alternative fact?

 

Couldn't help myself.

 

EDIT: I didn't actually call you a liar, and think you could very well be telling the truth. I don't really care either way since whether it is a truth or a lie it is still a single anecdote/example which doesn't hurt the point I was trying to make.

Edited February 1, 2017 by bcking

[Teddy B 17,252]

Just now, IDWAF said:

If I still had the bills in my possession, I would post them.  I don't.  Doesn't make it any less true.  Your lack of belief is your own problem.

Allow me to steal a line from Judge Judy, "When something doesn't make sense, it's probably not true". My not believing you isn't a problem for either of us really, it's just words on a discussion board.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

5 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

also as usual, you're the only one screaming reported 

Yep, that's the norm, eh?  SMH

[Teddy B 17,252]

3 minutes ago, bcking said:

Sorry is it a lie, or just an alternative fact?

 

Couldn't help myself.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 minutes ago, Teddy B said:

Allow me to steal a line from Judge Judy, "When something doesn't make sense, it's probably not true". My not believing you isn't a problem for either of us really, it's just words on a discussion board.

Fair enough.  But if you knew me in person, you'd never had made the accusation.  It doesn't even make sense.  There is nothing to gain by putting out false info.  It's not like it affects anyone in any way.  

 

And before this goes any farther, I was definitely rounding numbers for simplicity.  It may have been $47K and $5500, which is closer to 12%.  But since I don't have the bill in front of me, I just winged it.