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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Japan
Timeline
Posted

Scenario:

  • Husband = USA citizen
  • Wife = Japanese citizen + USA green card holder
  • Children = both born in the USA, neither has ever been to Japan, both hold USA and Japan passports

 

Question:

  • Which passports do we use for the kids in which situations? I've been told the following:
    • Departing the U.S.
      • show the Japanese passports to the airline (so they know the kids are allowed to enter Japan)
      • show the American passports to TSA  (USA doesn't really have exit immigration, it seems, but they check IDs prior to security screening)
    • Arriving in Japan
      • show the Japanese passports to Japanese entrance immigration
    • Departing Japan
      • show the American passports to the airline (so they know the kids are allowed to enter USA)
      • show the Japanese passports to Japanese exit immigration
    • Arriving in the U.S.
      • show the American passports to USA entrance immigration

 

Is that plan valid? It seems kind of shady to me. We just want to do what is most convenient while also preserving their dual citizenship and not violating any immigration laws.

 

IR-1/CR-1 Visa
Service Center : National Benefits Center
Consulate : Tokyo, Japan

UCIS
2012-10-10 : Marriage
2012-11-01 : I-130 Sent
2012-11-06 : I-130 NOA1 [i-797c]
2013-01-04 : I-130 NOA2 [i-797]

NVC
2013-01-30 : Received [DS-3032 | I-864 bill]
2013-01-31 : Sent [DS-3032 mailed | I-864 (AoS) bill paid]
2013-02-07 : Sent I-864 (AoS)
2013-02-13 : NVC acknowledged receipt of DS-3032
2013-02-14 : Received IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-14 : Paid IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : NVC requests IV application (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : Sent IV (DS-230) application
2013-03-12 : NVC sends email [case complete]

EMBASSY
2013-04-08 : Interview scheduled [passed]
2013-04-09 : Visa issued [online notification]
2013-04-11 : Visa received (via mail)

2013-05-12 : Passed through U.S. immigration (LAX)

i-751 Removing Conditions

2015-03-09 : Sent i-751 application

2015-03-16 : Received NOA (i-797)

2015-04-14 : Received NOA (i-797c)

2015-05-01 : Biometrics appointment

2015-10-01 : Notice of Removal of Conditions, NOA(I-797)

2015-10-05 : New Green Card Received

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
Timeline
Posted

With a US passport you can enter and stay in Japan for tourism for up to 90 days I believe.... so why not just use the US passports?

08/15/2014 : Met Online

06/30/2016 : I-129F Packet Sent

11/08/2016 : Interview - APPROVED!

11/23/2016 : POE - Dallas, Texas

From sending of I-129F petiton to POE - 146 days.

 

02/03/2017 - Married 

02/24/2017 - AOS packet sent

06/01/2017 - EAD/AP Combo Card Received in mail

12/06/2017 - I-485 Approved

12/14/2017 - Green Card Received in mail - No Interview

 

   

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Posted

Federal law requires US citizens to enter and exit the US on US passports. 

Widow/er AoS Guide | Have AoS questions? Read (some) answers here

 

AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
Timeline
Posted

And I believe that Japanese law requires Japanese citizens to enter and leave with Japanese passports.  Just hand both passports to the airlines when you check in.

 

Sukie in NY

Spoiler

 

Spoiler

Our Prior Journey

N-400 Naturalization

18-Feb-2018 - submitted N-400 online, credit card charged

18-Feb-2018 - NOA1

12-Mar-2018 - Biometrics 

18-June-2018 - Notice of interview received

26-July-2018 - Interview  - APPROVED!!!

26-July-2018 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled

17-Aug-2018 - Oath Ceremony

 

 

Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Japan
Timeline
Posted

Okay. Thanks everyone.

IR-1/CR-1 Visa
Service Center : National Benefits Center
Consulate : Tokyo, Japan

UCIS
2012-10-10 : Marriage
2012-11-01 : I-130 Sent
2012-11-06 : I-130 NOA1 [i-797c]
2013-01-04 : I-130 NOA2 [i-797]

NVC
2013-01-30 : Received [DS-3032 | I-864 bill]
2013-01-31 : Sent [DS-3032 mailed | I-864 (AoS) bill paid]
2013-02-07 : Sent I-864 (AoS)
2013-02-13 : NVC acknowledged receipt of DS-3032
2013-02-14 : Received IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-14 : Paid IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : NVC requests IV application (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : Sent IV (DS-230) application
2013-03-12 : NVC sends email [case complete]

EMBASSY
2013-04-08 : Interview scheduled [passed]
2013-04-09 : Visa issued [online notification]
2013-04-11 : Visa received (via mail)

2013-05-12 : Passed through U.S. immigration (LAX)

i-751 Removing Conditions

2015-03-09 : Sent i-751 application

2015-03-16 : Received NOA (i-797)

2015-04-14 : Received NOA (i-797c)

2015-05-01 : Biometrics appointment

2015-10-01 : Notice of Removal of Conditions, NOA(I-797)

2015-10-05 : New Green Card Received

Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Japan
Timeline
Posted

Okay, after saying this plan to my wife (i.e. show Japanese passports to Japanese immigration officials and USA passports to USA immigration officials), my wife was concerned that the immigration officials on either end would notice the "missing stamps". That is, when returning to the U.S., CBP officers would examine the USA passports and see there is no record of travel elsewhere and therefore get suspicious. Is that not a concern?

IR-1/CR-1 Visa
Service Center : National Benefits Center
Consulate : Tokyo, Japan

UCIS
2012-10-10 : Marriage
2012-11-01 : I-130 Sent
2012-11-06 : I-130 NOA1 [i-797c]
2013-01-04 : I-130 NOA2 [i-797]

NVC
2013-01-30 : Received [DS-3032 | I-864 bill]
2013-01-31 : Sent [DS-3032 mailed | I-864 (AoS) bill paid]
2013-02-07 : Sent I-864 (AoS)
2013-02-13 : NVC acknowledged receipt of DS-3032
2013-02-14 : Received IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-14 : Paid IV bill (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : NVC requests IV application (DS-230)
2013-02-22 : Sent IV (DS-230) application
2013-03-12 : NVC sends email [case complete]

EMBASSY
2013-04-08 : Interview scheduled [passed]
2013-04-09 : Visa issued [online notification]
2013-04-11 : Visa received (via mail)

2013-05-12 : Passed through U.S. immigration (LAX)

i-751 Removing Conditions

2015-03-09 : Sent i-751 application

2015-03-16 : Received NOA (i-797)

2015-04-14 : Received NOA (i-797c)

2015-05-01 : Biometrics appointment

2015-10-01 : Notice of Removal of Conditions, NOA(I-797)

2015-10-05 : New Green Card Received

Posted (edited)

She gives CBP far too much credit.

 

You only need to have watched the news in the past week to know that they aren't the brightest (a lot of low-level federal employees aren't).

 

If it ever comes up (which the likelihood of is minuscule) then you can simply tell them about your dual citizenships.

 

You're really overthinking this.

Edited by Hypnos

Widow/er AoS Guide | Have AoS questions? Read (some) answers here

 

AoS

Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

Day 6 (1/9/18) Walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX

Day 341 (12/10/18) Interview was scheduled for 1/14/19

Day 376 (1/14/19) Interview

Day 385 (1/23/19) Denied

Day 400 (2/7/19) Denial revoked; N-400 approved; oath ceremony set for 2/14/19

Day 407 (2/14/19) Oath ceremony in Dallas, TX

 
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