Trump's published Immigration policies MEGATHREAD

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Just now, jerni said:

The judge only stayed the removal of people (including greencard holders from those 7 countries) who were already here and being detained or in transit to the US. All others who have not boarded a flight are still blocked from boarding a flight home.

Yes  but I'm sure that before the end of next week, that part of the EO will be reformed. This Executive Order was clearly rushed and not well thought out at all. 

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4 minutes ago, Transborderwife said:

And now to await an executive order stating that Judges cannot overturn executive orders...

Or something of the same nature...

 

But I think that would maybe prompt the Supreme Court to get involved.  

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Just now, Delirium said:

Or something of the same nature...

 

But I think that would maybe prompt the Supreme Court to get involved.  

The notorious RBG and her crew would lay the smackdown for sure

[hasheesha 45]

The EO actually is illegal, it goes against a 1965 congressional law barring discrimination against immigrants based on national origin. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/opinion/trumps-immigration-ban-is-illegal.html

 

So there is hope... unless Trump does what he is wanting to do and actually bans Muslims (the law does not protect discrimination based on religion). I would put nothing past this guy...

Edited January 29, 2017 by hasheesha

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Someone's Twitter is awfully quiet today...

[Delirium 114]

1 minute ago, hasheesha said:

The EO actually is illegal, it goes against a 1965 congressional law barring discrimination against immigrants based on national origin. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/opinion/trumps-immigration-ban-is-illegal.html

 

So there is hope...

Most of the aspects of the EO seem very illegal. 

 

The only thing that's maybe legal is stopping the refugee process. Obama did something similar I believe.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Just now, Delirium said:

Most of the aspects of the EO seem very illegal. 

 

The only thing that's maybe legal is stopping the refugee process. Obama did something similar I believe.

Well according to the mayor of NYC, wording is vague and challengable.  Some question if it was purposely done that way to make it look like things are happening when they really are not.

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6 minutes ago, Transborderwife said:

Well according to the mayor of NYC, wording is vague and challengable.  Some question if it was purposely done that way to make it look like things are happening when they really are not.

So Trump can turn around and say "I never meant LPR's to be included in the EO"? Possibly....easy scapegoat.  

[m&zCAIRO 29]

12 minutes ago, Transborderwife said:

Someone's Twitter is awfully quiet today...

Good observation.........I totally forgot about that 

[geowrian 22,337]

My fiance is currently in Saudi Arabia but is a citizen of the Philippines (and will be traveling to the US from the Philippines once her K-1 is issued). She will be having her interview in the Riyadh embassy.

 

I know SA isn't on the list of countries affected by the ban, but if it were, would there be any impact? More precisely, if somebody plans to interview at an embassy in one of the banned countries but is not a citizen of a banned country, what impacts would the EO have on their case?

[Transborderwife 4,666]

1 minute ago, Delirium said:

So Trump can turn around and say "I never meant LPR's to be included in the EO"? Possibly....easy scapegoat.  

Maybe, but I'm thinking more of the whole illegal immigration issues and how it's fightable for the states

[Delirium 114]

Just now, Transborderwife said:

Maybe, but I'm thinking more of the whole illegal immigration issues and how it's fightable for the states

 

Interesting theory...I wonder how everything is going to play out in the weeks to come. 

[Leo7777 243]

By various means and rules . . . any and all persons (any type of visa holders and green card holders) can be denied entry into USA . . . except citizens of USA.

[amja 18]

My Yemeni husband was issued a visa on Thursday, the day before this Order was signed No words can describe how it feels to be targeted like this for absolutely no reason. You can all sigh in relief if you like, but I do not wish this feeling on anyone. Truly crushed.

[geowrian 22,337]

19 minutes ago, Leo7777 said:

By various means and rules . . . any and all persons (any type of visa holders and green card holders) can be denied entry into USA . . . except citizens of USA.

Yes, but they only be denied for certain reasons. They can't deny somebody because they are a certain gender, religion, nationality, etc. They can deny them because of a reasonable suspicion of a risk to national security, or that they are going to violate US laws, etc. By law, a visa cannot knowingly be issued to anybody who is inadmissible to obtain and use it. CBP can find a reason for inadmissibility given current laws (i.e. if they suspect it will be used beyond the visa's terms, or evidence found at POE indicates it was obtained or is being used via fraud), but they cannot add new visa requirements.

 

"...no person shall receive any preference or priority or be discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of the person’s race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence. "

8 U.S. Code § 1152 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1152)

 

That said, it only applies to immigrant visas. I would assume LPRs are covered under even more strict laws banning discrimination based on those circumstances.

Edited January 29, 2017 by geowrian