I-134 Question 38 - Contributions

[ShanghaiSurfer 135]

There is a new form for I-134 to be filled out for K-1 visas.

 

In the previous version it asked if you intend to make any contributions and the sample on VJ said to put "N/A - Filing for K-1 Visa". However they have now changed it to a Yes or No box in the new version of the forms. I don't see any box where you would put this phrase. Any suggestions?

[ZoeUK1989 35]

It asks if you intend to make specific contributions and if you tick yes then state in the bottom on part 7 what contributions you intend to make.

 

If it was me I would have asked the same question but if no one answered I would tick yes to make sure they read part 7 and then I would still write NA K1 visa or whatever it is that people were advising you should write on the previous form. Others may just say no. Because you don't intend to only make specific contributions but support them entirely.

 

That is confusing now isn't it because they used to be lots of answers on what to write but now there isn't. 

hmmmm...

 

Sorry I can't advise you completely but maybe someone else will now come back and say what they would do 

 

[ShanghaiSurfer 135]

2 minutes ago, ZoeUK1989 said:

It asks if you intend to make specific contributions and if you tick yes then state in the bottom on part 7 what contributions you intend to make.

 

If it was me I would have asked the same question but if no one answered I would tick yes to make sure they read part 7 and then I would still write NA K1 visa or whatever it is that people were advising you should write on the previous form. Others may just say no. Because you don't intend to only make specific contributions but support them entirely.

 

That is confusing now isn't it because they used to be lots of answers on what to write but now there isn't. 

hmmmm...

 

Sorry I can't advise you completely but maybe someone else will now come back and say what they would do 

 

Yes confusing indeed. Appreciate the advice. If nobody comes along I'll go with your suggestion. Thanks again.

[USC1961 251]

Question 38 on the I-134 is a trick question.  It is asking if you intend to make "specific contributions" to the person. Since you are planning to be responsible for the total support of the person and for an indefinite amount of time, mark "No."     

[A'n'L 735]

Tick yes, with or without itemized explanation or just leave unticked with n/a. Do not tick no, someone was denied for that at the Sweden consulate and had to supply a new form.

[ZoeUK1989 35]

See, I knew someone would know the consequences of the marked answer somewhere.

The only reason I say to tick yes is because it says underneath to list what you intend to contribute with. That way if you tick yes I would think they will look at the bottom of what you intend to do. That will give you chance to still explain that it is for the K1 visa and you intend to support them entirely rather than making certain contributions. 

 

It sounds like a few people will now come up with this question so whatever you do please make sure you update VJ after the I-134 has been used... I get the feeling it will help a lot of people out  

[ShanghaiSurfer 135]

1 hour ago, ZoeUK1989 said:

See, I knew someone would know the consequences of the marked answer somewhere.

The only reason I say to tick yes is because it says underneath to list what you intend to contribute with. That way if you tick yes I would think they will look at the bottom of what you intend to do. That will give you chance to still explain that it is for the K1 visa and you intend to support them entirely rather than making certain contributions. 

 

It sounds like a few people will now come up with this question so whatever you do please make sure you update VJ after the I-134 has been used... I get the feeling it will help a lot of people out  

Glad I asked like you said. I'm several months away (I'm a planner), but will definitely provide feedback based on ticking yes if there were any negative consequences. 

[ShanghaiSurfer 135]

1 hour ago, A'n'L said:

Tick yes, with or without itemized explanation or just leave unticked with n/a. Do not tick no, someone was denied for that at the Sweden consulate and had to supply a new form.

That was exactly my concern. Thank you for the feedback. 

[DebbieRaney 126]

I wonder when VJ will revise the US-134 form. It seems very confusing.

So, let me see if I understood everything correctly. Should we fill out with the beneficiary's information under the "Dependents Info" (question 10-13), put "none" or "N/a" on the others (if we don't have kids, etc) till we reach question 38 where we tick "yes"?

Thanks!

[Rippy88 11]

On 3/8/2017 at 2:15 PM, DebbieWen said:

I wonder when VJ will revise the US-134 form. It seems very confusing.

So, let me see if I understood everything correctly. Should we fill out with the beneficiary's information under the "Dependents Info" (question 10-13), put "none" or "N/a" on the others (if we don't have kids, etc) till we reach question 38 where we tick "yes"?

Thanks!

 

Hey DebbieWen, I just recently got my NOA2 Approval and now in the process of preparing documents for the next step, including the I-134a. It is confusing, but I think I can help with the research I've done and things I've read from the USCIS website. On the USCIS website, you can view the PDF Instruction file for I-134a. I will copy and paste a line from it regarding your question. 

 

"Answer all questions fully and accurately. If a question does not apply to you (for example, if you have never been married and the question asks “Provide the name of your current spouse”), type or print “N/A,” unless otherwise directed. If your answer to a question which requires a numeric response is zero or none (for example, “How many children do you have” or “How many times have you departed the United States”), type or print “None,” unless otherwise directed."

 

This is a bit different from the I-129F, as if you look at the instructions for that form, it says to leave the space blank.

 

Also, if you notice it says, "Answer all questions fully and accurately". BUT, the example they give "Provide the name of your current spouse" type or print N/A. Their example isn't a question! It's a statement. The form contains questions AND statements throughout, but they obviously consider every line a question. Therefore, DebbieWen, I will be either putting "NA" for non-numeric lines and "None" for the questions that require a numeric response.  

 

I have no dependents either, so for me, 10.a through 25 will be "NA" or "None" , 26a-29 will be filled in as it should. And 30.a through 37 will be "NA" or "None" 

 

I hope this helped you! The above Q&A really helped me with that confusing question 38! Good luck!

[KimchiLumpia 315]

To answer the OP:

If you follow VJ's example I-134 form dated 2011 - Question #11 regarding contributions yes/no boxes are left "unchecked" and in the explanation section, you are to write "N/A (K1 Visa Process For Permanent Residence)":
http://www.visajourney.com/examples/Form-I-134.pdf

In the new revised I-134 form dated 2018 - Question #38 now regards contributions.  If we are to follow VJ's example, you would still leave the yes/no boxes "unchecked".  But now, your explanation is submitted in Part 7 on page 8 of the new form.  

You will do this:
3.a. "Page 4"

3.b. "Part Number 3"

3.c. "Item Number 38"

3.d. "N/A (K1 Visa Process For Permanent Residence)"

You're basically giving the same information as in the old I-134 form, but, in a different location:

Hope this helps everyone!

Edited March 18, 2017 by KimchiLumpia

[DebbieRaney 126]

Thank you so much Rippy88 and KimchiLumpia for your help! I really appreciate it! 

[KimchiLumpia 315]

8 hours ago, KimchiLumpia said:

To answer the OP:

If you follow VJ's example I-134 form dated 2011 - Question #11 regarding contributions yes/no boxes are left "unchecked" and in the explanation section, you are to write "N/A (K1 Visa Process For Permanent Residence)":
http://www.visajourney.com/examples/Form-I-134.pdf

In the new revised I-134 form dated 2018 - Question #38 now regards contributions.  If we are to follow VJ's example, you would still leave the yes/no boxes "unchecked".  But now, your explanation is submitted in Part 7 on page 8 of the new form.  

You will do this:
3.a. "Page 4"

3.b. "Part Number 3"

3.c. "Item Number 38"

3.d. "N/A (K1 Visa Process For Permanent Residence)"

You're basically giving the same information as in the old I-134 form, but, in a different location:

Hope this helps everyone!

 

I did more research about the question of specific contributions.  And this question was intended for those sponsoring immigrants with short-term stays (student Visa holders) an opportunity discuss specifics details of their support: lodging, food, spending stipend, etc. 

 

By all accounts, this question regarding specific contributions does not apply to K-1 Visas.  

With that being said, I personally do not like to leave sections in forms un-checked or un-marked.  It may look like one has forgot or missed that section.  

As stated by another poster, I like the idea of checking "Yes" to the question, then having an explanation regarding the "Yes" answer vs. leaving the boxes unchecked.  COs are human and make mistakes.  A CO may review a file and deem an unchecked or unmarked section as incomplete.
 

Recently, another VJer answered "Yes" and put "N/A K1 Visa Applicant" on the new forms and had no problems:
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/624498-i-134-new-form-question-38/

This is what I plan to do as well.

 

 

 

Edited March 19, 2017 by KimchiLumpia

[DebbieRaney 126]

On 3/18/2017 at 4:37 AM, Rippy88 said:

 

Hey DebbieWen, I just recently got my NOA2 Approval and now in the process of preparing documents for the next step, including the I-134a. It is confusing, but I think I can help with the research I've done and things I've read from the USCIS website. On the USCIS website, you can view the PDF Instruction file for I-134a. I will copy and paste a line from it regarding your question. 

 

"Answer all questions fully and accurately. If a question does not apply to you (for example, if you have never been married and the question asks “Provide the name of your current spouse”), type or print “N/A,” unless otherwise directed. If your answer to a question which requires a numeric response is zero or none (for example, “How many children do you have” or “How many times have you departed the United States”), type or print “None,” unless otherwise directed."

 

This is a bit different from the I-129F, as if you look at the instructions for that form, it says to leave the space blank.

 

Also, if you notice it says, "Answer all questions fully and accurately". BUT, the example they give "Provide the name of your current spouse" type or print N/A. Their example isn't a question! It's a statement. The form contains questions AND statements throughout, but they obviously consider every line a question. Therefore, DebbieWen, I will be either putting "NA" for non-numeric lines and "None" for the questions that require a numeric response.  

 

I have no dependents either, so for me, 10.a through 25 will be "NA" or "None" , 26a-29 will be filled in as it should. And 30.a through 37 will be "NA" or "None" 

 

I hope this helped you! The above Q&A really helped me with that confusing question 38! Good luck!

I am going to bring up this subject again because I was reading in another website (http://www.***removed***/visitor-visa/affidavit-of-support-form-134-tips.html) and it says to fill out questions 26a to 37 only if you have submitted a visa petition before. And that's also my understanding due to the way it's written, since you've already put the beneficiary's info on part 2. Any thoughts?

Thanks again!

[Rippy88 11]

Hey DebbieWen,

 

26a through 29 should be filled in, for date of filing, question 29, I just used my NOA1 date.

30a through 37 don't worry about. 

38 mark "I intend"

and then on the last page of the I-134a , fill in as Kimchi stated above.

 

3.a. "Page 4"

3.b. "Part Number 3"

3.c. "Item Number 38"

3.d. "N/A (K1 Visa Process For Permanent Residence)"