January 2017 I-129F Filers

[TriloByte 1,818]

 

Technically they do actually have to inform us. That is why they have the whole "current processing dates" in the first place, because it is written policy, just as the restrictions on inquiring about a case newer then those dates. 

It is actually most certainly natural to expect higher service for higher fees paid. At the very least equatable service. So far many of us have received far lower service than those who paid far less. Since they are a Government, not a private agency, they should be using said additional money to higher more workers to increase the output.
Expecting more for paying more is pretty much the standard of how everything works with our monetary system.

I don't really care tbh if you are others don't think its hard evidence, or that USCIS is doing the right thing. I am doing my part and fighting for what I want. My only suggestion to help others in the same situation is to follow through as well, as more voices may cause enough annoyance at USCIS to get answers at least.

 

 

I think there's a difference between knowing 3 - 5 months (communicated up front) and accepting it. for me, a 3 - 5 month waiting period is simply unacceptable. I have worked for 25 years now, paying in hundreds of thousands in taxes and other services on top of the fee I paid. Then my reward is an f* you, you sit in the dark and wait for months with no idea if you will ever see your loved one again. I alternate out between humor and rage over the matter most of the time, trying to balance out so I don't hurt someone.

 

Then I can't stand inefficiency in general. So the US government and its fractal systems of inefficiency are very hard to cope with, immigration aside. When I see others who are content with it all, it just makes me angry and likely takes years off my life.

Edited May 5, 2017 by dbmathis

[sbane12 63]

 

I think there's a difference between knowing 3 - 5 months (communicated up front) and accepting it. for me, a 3 - 5 month waiting period is simply unacceptable. I have worked for 25 years now, paying in hundreds of thousands in taxes and other services on top of the fee I paid. Then my reward is an f* you, you sit in the dark and wait for months with no idea if you will ever see your loved one again. I alternate out between humor and rage over the matter most of the time, trying to balance out so I don't hurt someone.

I agree whole heartedly. In the business I work if we ever had anywhere close to the same production as USCIS has in these cases we would be out of business and I work in data security and so far from what I have gathered most of the actual work done which is making sure no-one with I'll intentions acquires a visa is really done at the embassy level anyway... so they have no excuse

[XavierFR 38]

 

I think there's a difference between knowing 3 - 5 months (communicated up front) and accepting it. for me, a 3 - 5 month waiting period is simply unacceptable. I have worked for 25 years now, paying in hundreds of thousands in taxes and other services on top of the fee I paid. Then my reward is an f* you, you sit in the dark and wait for months with no idea if you will ever see your loved one again. I alternate out between humor and rage over the matter most of the time, trying to balance out so I don't hurt someone.

 

Then I can't stand inefficiency in general. So the US government and its fractal systems of inefficiency are very hard to cope with, immigration aside. When I see others who are content with it all, it just makes me angry and likely takes years off my life.

thank you

[pajobra 1,395]

 

Actually no there wasn't a "bout of speediness" there was many cases throughout last year being approved in 60 days, I even saw quite a few that were less. And those are just the ones I managed to see. Before last year? I personally know people that had their entire process Application to visa in hand take less time then I have currently waited, but that was years ago. 

So far USCIS processing time has been pretty much slowing down for K1s and i think it is mainly CR-1s that see the most fluctuation.

When my friend and her husband went through this in 2006 it took a lot longer than we are waiting now on average and like she told me regardless of the time and wait its all worth it.

[Ermin&Zijada 141]

 

When my friend and her husband went through this in 2006 it took a lot longer than we are waiting now on average and like she told me regardless of the time and wait its all worth it.

Of course it is worth it, but comparing times from 11 years ago doesn't really seem helpful. It seems a lot more reasonable for us to question why our process has slowed down compared to processing times from just a few months ago, even after paying way higher fees. 

 

Unrelated to this quote, but I don't think calling uscis would hurt. The people answering the phones are not the ones processing the petitions. In most cases they are not even located in the processing centers. 

 

I know we are all just really frusterated at this point and it is understandable. I just hope they get back to sending approvals next week. I never imagined waiting this long for the noa2 when we started this process. 

[MrMizo 144]

So I got in contact with USCIS and reached the first representative with all the vanilla responses, so I requested to speak to a officer, 2 hours later i receive a callback and spoke to her. I was very cool and collective about the situation and she sounded a bit irate and couldn't give a straight answer. She sounded a bit nervous on her responses and claimed that they are doing everything they can to process and it was good that I haven't received a RFE yet. She also mentioned the system has been upgrading each day (which I feel is another vanilla answer along with the time it takes to process a petition.) From her voice, it sounds like they aren't admitting to whatever fault they have, they are definitely not saying something...

[David&Femke 91]

 

Technically they do actually have to inform us. That is why they have the whole "current processing dates" in the first place, because it is written policy, just as the restrictions on inquiring about a case newer then those dates. 

It is actually most certainly natural to expect higher service for higher fees paid. At the very least equatable service. So far many of us have received far lower service than those who paid far less. Since they are a Government, not a private agency, they should be using said additional money to higher more workers to increase the output.
Expecting more for paying more is pretty much the standard of how everything works with our monetary system.

I don't really care tbh if you are others don't think its hard evidence, or that USCIS is doing the right thing. I am doing my part and fighting for what I want. My only suggestion to help others in the same situation is to follow through as well, as more voices may cause enough annoyance at USCIS to get answers at least.

yes but if it is a goverment agency, you can just as well hold the voters responcible, that pick a repubican goverment, that are all for paying less taxes, witch means that more of that mony needs to come from the individuals extually using the service.
If you want to let your voice hear for the betterment of public services you start in politics.
Just saying its not just the USCIS that is respocible for how it goes, for a large part they just have to make it work with wat they get to, and are not all powerfull in that desition. the population of voters has a respocibilety in that to, and that responcebilety does not nesseserly lie with calling the uscis after the fact. becasue the person on the phone does not have any say in these desitions and at most can give the message to the next lvl, but thee are many levels to go trough, before you reach a person that can actually make a change in the burocrasy, and there are alternative sulutions to there direct problem with is people calling to much, and that solution might not be in your favor. 
 

CONCLUSION no matter if you are right or wrong, importent is the result, and there is a lot to say against your stragegy

Edited May 5, 2017 by David&Femke

[David&Femke 91]

 

So I got in contact with USCIS and reached the first representative with all the vanilla responses, so I requested to speak to a officer, 2 hours later i receive a callback and spoke to her. I was very cool and collective about the situation and she sounded a bit irate and couldn't give a straight answer. She sounded a bit nervous on her responses and claimed that they are doing everything they can to process and it was good that I haven't received a RFE yet. She also mentioned the system has been upgrading each day (which I feel is another vanilla answer along with the time it takes to process a petition.) From her voice, it sounds like they aren't admitting to whatever fault they have, they are definitely not saying something...

ther always not saying a lot of things on the phone, that does not mean they are hiding something. They also do that because they dont want to make any staments that might result in you trying to get any rights from that statement resulting in a lawsuit.

That even if they win cost mony and time and they have many unsidified costumers and you live in te coutry were you can get mony for pooping in your car when you get in an accident. if you do that here you get laught out of the court room

Edited May 5, 2017 by David&Femke

[sbane12 63]

 

yes but if it is a goverment agency, you can just as well hold the voters responcible, that pick a repubican goverment, that are all for paying less taxes, witch means that more of that mony needs to come from the individuals extually using the service.
If you want to let your voice hear for the betterment of public services you start in politics.
Just saying its not just the USCIS that is respocible for how it goes, for a large part they just have to make it work with wat they get to, and are not all powerfull in that desition. the population of voters has a respocibilety in that to, and that responcebilety does not nesseserly lie with calling the uscis after the fact. becasue the person on the phone does not have any say in these desitions and at most can give the message to the next lvl, but thee are many levels to go trough, before you reach a person that can actually make a change in the burocrasy, and there are alternative sulutions to there direct problem with is people calling to much, and that solution might not be in your favor. 
 

CONCLUSION no matter if you are right or wrong, importent is the result, and there is a lot to say against your stragegy

Listen I'm not here to debate your argument especially not one filled with logical fallacies. I do not come on here to debate politics. 

 

There is nothing to say against "my strategy". Think of it like the saying "You miss 100% of shots you don't take ".  There is nothing negative that can come out of us at least causing an annoyance by us mass calling USCIS on a daily basis

 Surely the person you speak to has no power but somewhere above them is the power to get at least something done

 My strategy if you want to call it that is push that ####### hard enough so it rolls up hill rather than down. Maybe enough of an annoyance to the low level person will eventually equate to an annoyance to the higher level person. Typically when a person capable of making decisions gets annoyed enough, decisions to get made.

[NatO23 235]

 

Listen I'm not here to debate your argument especially not one filled with logical fallacies. I do not come on here to debate politics. 

 

There is nothing to say against "my strategy". Think of it like the saying "You miss 100% of shots you don't take ".  There is nothing negative that can come out of us at least causing an annoyance by us mass calling USCIS on a daily basis

 Surely the person you speak to has no power but somewhere above them is the power to get at least something done

 My strategy if you want to call it that is push that ####### hard enough so it rolls up hill rather than down. Maybe enough of an annoyance to the low level person will eventually equate to an annoyance to the higher level person. Typically when a person capable of making decisions gets annoyed enough, decisions to get made.

My dad once told me "If you annoy someone enough, they will give you whatever you want just to make you go away". He's a smart man, I'm happy to take that advice. 

[David&Femke 91]

 

Listen I'm not here to debate your argument especially not one filled with logical fallacies. I do not come on here to debate politics. 

 

There is nothing to say against "my strategy". Think of it like the saying "You miss 100% of shots you don't take ".  There is nothing negative that can come out of us at least causing an annoyance by us mass calling USCIS on a daily basis

 Surely the person you speak to has no power but somewhere above them is the power to get at least something done

 My strategy if you want to call it that is push that ####### hard enough so it rolls up hill rather than down. Maybe enough of an annoyance to the low level person will eventually equate to an annoyance to the higher level person. Typically when a person capable of making decisions gets annoyed enough, decisions to get made.

what you say is one of the things that could come out of it.
 

what can also come out of it is:

longer prossesing times ( coused by increased workload on the phone)

Higher phonecall charges  ( to compensate for the increased budged needed for phonecalls )

Longer waiting times on the phones ( for poeple with extual questions they have an asnswer to)

Stress at work fro USCIS employes ( with can couse laps in evciency and even increase in deniels) beacouse bad moods and tempers are proven to be contagiues and might not stop with the phone workers.

 

And you can say that all of these point are speculation withs it is, but so is your conclusion. its just one of the results on a long list of posible results

 

[David&Femke 91]

 

My dad once told me "If you annoy someone enough, they will give you whatever you want just to make you go away". He's a smart man, I'm happy to take that advice. 

If you anoy soemone enough and they have power over your fate they can also be spitefull instead of give you wat you want, or make it more dificult for you to anoy them

[sbane12 63]

 

what you say is one of the things that could come out of it.
 

what can also come out of it is:

longer prossesing times ( coused by increased workload on the phone)

Higher phonecall charges  ( to compensate for the increased budged needed for phonecalls )

Longer waiting times on the phones ( for poeple with extual questions they have an asnswer to)

Stress at work fro USCIS employes ( with can couse laps in evciency and even increase in deniels) beacouse bad moods and tempers are proven to be contagiues and might not stop with the phone workers.

 

And you can say that all of these point are speculation withs it is, but so is your conclusion. its just one of the results on a long list of posible results

 

No and no.... the call center you call is not the same office as the CSC....  

 

Increased phone call charges? Do you even know how a telecommunications contract for a toll  free even works?

 

 

Again the people that answer the phones are not in anyway the same people that handle the cases.   Any other off base assumption you would like to make?

Edited May 5, 2017 by sbane12

[David&Femke 91]

 

No and no.... the call center you call is not the same office as the CSC....  

 

Increased phone call charges? So you even know how a telecommunications contract for a toll  free even works?

 

 

Again the people that answer the phones are not in anyway the same people that handle the cases.   Anything other off base assumption you would like to make?

they stilll talk to ohther officers.
and just becasue they cant charge you in one way does not mena they wont get that mony from us or future petitioners in another way. they people still need to be payed. just because a call can be free does not mena the people answering your call work for free.
and liek i says yes they are all uuussumptions that im making, youdont give a comeback for all of them by the way . and only one of them needs to be placible to counter your also plousible theory. and that is just what i can think of at the top of my head but im shure there are many more. yours is no different.

Edited May 5, 2017 by David&Femke

[TriloByte 1,818]

Man, I am disappointed. Nobody has asked me why I think the processing slowed down because workers were taken off the cases to build a pyramid.