January 2017 I-129F Filers

[RJandHamid 1,133]

13 minutes ago, dbmathis said:

I agree. The way the government handles this is unethical IMO. If the case is to be sitting for 5 months, why not reach out and set an expectation. 

 

I think the widely accepted assumption on this forum is that there are a bunch of workers who are given a "stack" of cases to work on. I mentioned this a few days ago and will mention it again. Why in the age of such awesome technology are we processing applications by papers in "stacks" in the first place?

 

What they COULD do, theoretically, is have one main center that processes incoming petitions. The receipt numbers would be entered (ordered by date received) into a master database that's shared across all service centers. All documents would be scanned electronically into a database and linked to each receipt number in the master database. Only valid petitions make it into the database. The people processing the incoming would immediately reject any petitions that had incorrect fees, etc. Nobody has a "stack" on their desk. Then, when any worker at any service center finished the petition they were working on, they would query this master database for the next petition in line. This way there never would be a situation where someone who got a receipt at the end of the month gets movement before someone at the start. There would still be situations where an RFE delays a person and causes someone who got a receipt at the end of the month to get APPROVED before someone at the start, but that's acceptable! haha. 

 

With this type of approach, there could be very precise statistics on where the processing is currently at and what the wait time should be. 

You are making too much sense. The government doesn't always like to think in logical ways. 

I would like to imagine that they will eventually adopt a process similar to the one you are describing. I would think that like many other organizations, they are trying to move away from paper documents and shift to mostly digital applications. As you said, that would make it much easier to track and complete cases. I don't think we will see a modernization in the USCIS process anytime soon, but I do hope that filers in the future will have an easier time getting case updates and be able to enjoy a more efficient case timeline. 

[pardiiix 18]

3 hours ago, eastcoastgroove said:

We forgot to print 2 copies of ours and we just filled it out again at a later date and printed it off. 

so did you send it all over to USCIS? Did they accept it? 

Or are you just waiting for the interview?

[pardiiix 18]

56 minutes ago, SkruDe said:

But in our lottery, we are nearly guaranteed to be a winner

Wow! Never thought of it in this way! Eventually we all win! You just boosted my patience. Thank you for making my day 

[Patricia & Ola 129]

57 minutes ago, SkruDe said:

Good morning all!

 

Another week starts today!  No more long, unproductive, useless weekend feelings until 5 consecutive days of approvals and RFE's arrive first!  It should be a good week for a lot of you.  I can feel it.

 

I just got back from my trip to Colombia to see my fiance.  It turned out to be a perfectly planned trip as we got our NOA2 last week and celebrated together.  She was in much better spirits and we both now can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.

 

I've noticed a lot of emotions building up in a lot of you and wanted to share my quick advice/experience.  The weeks leading up to my NOA2 I was beginning to become a mess.  I waited 109 days and past the estimated time by two weeks. The wait and the checking and the tracking was interfering with my daily life, my work, my happiness.  It is easy to blame the USCIS and get upset over their methods, but in reality we are nothing but 1 small stack of papers among thousands and thousands of stacks of papers. 

 

It wasn't till after I got my NOA2 approval that I realized that all my pain and suffering leading up to the NOA2 was not a product of the USCIS, but instead a self inflicted pain and misery.  I was doing it to myself.  We like to think our petition is the most important one.  The only one that matters to us.  Why is MY petition taking this long?  What did I do wrong?  Why are they skipping MINE?  When will I be approved?  But as I said, each one of us is 1 among thousands being processed.  And given the unconventional approval system, it is like a lottery of sorts.  But in our lottery, we are nearly guaranteed to be a winner as it is really hard to be rejected at this stage of the process.  You would know if you would be rejected and never would have submitted the petition in the first place.  Everyone here will receive approval, or RFE then approval.

 

The best things in life are worth waiting for.

Never give up on a dream just because of the time it takes to achieve it.

 

It's like torture being away from the one you love.  But a few months will be minuscule when compared to the lifetime of happiness that follows.  And I think we all can sacrifice a few months for a lifetime of happiness.

 

And for those of you with faith, let me add my favorite words of wisdom that has gotten me thru many situations in my life.  "God has perfect timing.  Never too early, never too late.  When it happens, it will be the exact right time, and it will be perfect."

 

Good luck to everyone this week!!!!

 

Thank you so much for the inspiration you've given me........Congratulations on your approval!!!

[David&Femke 91]

A lot of people seem to think its strange that the uscis does not work in exact order. I dont think that is strange at all and like to share with you why.
the petitions come in in huge stacks stored in huge racks and then taken to one of the many desks. i see it like a grain dispenser you put the new in the top and you pull out from the bottum, it does not go in perfect order, just aprocamatly. and it realy does go in order atleast a little bit.
Keeping all these petitions in perfect order would just cost a lot of extra time in comeparenson to just shoving them in to the closest. taking them out oin perfet order would cost a lot of extra time in finding out what the longest running number is. and then finding it, in comparison to just grabbing the ones from the clsoest that has been stashed the longest ago.
ANd looking at other desks to see if they still have petitions lying around that have an older date would be complete insanety.

[RJandHamid 1,133]

I don't think anyone is asking that the cases be processed in perfect order, but I don't think it is unreasonable for the November cases to be completed before moving onto January/February. Almost no outstanding (there are still around 80 or untouched Nov cases) are being touched, as they do about 1 November case a day on average. If we at least saw some movement on those cases, I would be a lot less frustrated. 

[lcfreshful 8]

5 hours ago, pardiiix said:

Do we have to keep the I -129F form? I seem to have lost it 😔. If I print it all over and sign it again, will that cause problems later on? 

98 days and I still haven't received NOA 2.

I believe you're supposed to send the actual I-129f itself as apart of the whole packet.

 

I mean otherwise it's just information from you and they won't know what to do with it. 

 

You'll more than likely get an RFE. 

[David&Femke 91]

9 minutes ago, RJandHamid said:

I don't think anyone is asking that the cases be processed in perfect order, but I don't think it is unreasonable for the November cases to be completed before moving onto January/February. Almost no outstanding (there are still around 80 or untouched Nov cases) are being touched, as they do about 1 November case a day on average. If we at least saw some movement on those cases, I would be a lot less frustrated. 

yes i do unthersand that, and i feel really bad for the poeple that get left behind really far, like you. But that are just a few . i hope im not offending or hurting anyones feelings with this statement. but in the big picture not using time sorting and unstorting, makes the prosses times shorter. not for everyone but the most.

[djhead 14]

Hi guys finally got confirmation come through from the nvc. 

 

I was hoping for some advice on the next steps. It says they have forwarded it on to the London consulate and to wait to hear from them in a few weeks.

 

I was under the impression that I could start the application online. Can anyone help? Do I need to hear from the consulate first or can I apply online now?

 

Thanks all

[TriloByte 1,818]

1 hour ago, David&Femke said:

yes i do unthersand that, and i feel really bad for the poeple that get left behind really far, like you. But that are just a few . i hope im not offending or hurting anyones feelings with this statement. but in the big picture not using time sorting and unstorting, makes the prosses times shorter. not for everyone but the most.

 

 

 

 

Within the current strategy/paradigm they are using, yes, you're correct, it would take longer to sort. But if the process was designed from the ground up to be efficient and in order, utilizing current technology, it would actually take up fewer resources because there would be fewer people phoning up USCIS for updates, freeing the phone answering people up to be moved into the processing department. They could even have an automated phone system that would send out phone calls and texts to waiting applicants, updating them where they are in the queue.

 

I understand that not every person will have a computer in order to start off the process in digital, but that's where my hypothetical initial processing center comes into play.

 

My Gold Standard Processing Protocol

 

One main center that processes incoming petitions. The receipt numbers would be entered (ordered by date received) into a master database that's shared across all service centers. All documents would be scanned electronically into a database and linked to each receipt number in the master database (This happens at this center because some people may not have the resources for this step). Only valid petitions make it into the database. The people processing the incoming would immediately reject any petitions that had incorrect fees, etc. Nobody has a "stack" on their desk. Then, when any worker at any service center finished the petition they were working on, they would query this master database for the next petition in line, which would be delivered to their computer digitally. This way there never would be a situation where someone who got a receipt at the end of the month gets movement (notice, not approval) before someone at the start of the month or someone before them. There would still be situations where an RFE delays a person and causes someone who got a receipt at the end of the month to get APPROVED before someone at the start of the month or someone before them, but that's acceptable! haha. 

 

Flow chart to follow! 

 

None of this would be difficult to do, other companies do it all the time. Doesn't seem insane at all in the technological reality that we exist in today. However, in the current paradigm, which we are in, yes, sorting does seem insane.

Edited May 1, 2017 by dbmathis

[David&Femke 91]

41 minutes ago, dbmathis said:

Within the current strategy/paradigm they are using, yes, you're correct, it would take longer to sort. But if the process was designed from the ground up to be efficient and in order, utilizing current technology, it would actually take up fewer resources because there would be fewer people phoning up USCIS for updates, freeing the phone answering people up to be moved into the processing department. They could even have an automated phone system that would send out phone calls and texts to waiting applicants, updating them where they are in the queue.

 

I understand that not every person will have a computer in order to start off the process in digital, but that's where my hypothetical initial processing center comes into play.

 

My Gold Standard Processing Protocol

 

One main center that processes incoming petitions. The receipt numbers would be entered (ordered by date received) into a master database that's shared across all service centers. All documents would be scanned electronically into a database and linked to each receipt number in the master database (This happens at this center because some people may not have the resources for this step). Only valid petitions make it into the database. The people processing the incoming would immediately reject any petitions that had incorrect fees, etc. Nobody has a "stack" on their desk. Then, when any worker at any service center finished the petition they were working on, they would query this master database for the next petition in line, which would be delivered to their computer digitally. This way there never would be a situation where someone who got a receipt at the end of the month gets movement (notice, not approval) before someone at the start of the month or someone before them. There would still be situations where an RFE delays a person and causes someone who got a receipt at the end of the month to get APPROVED before someone at the start of the month or someone before them, but that's acceptable! haha. 

 

Flow chart to follow! 

 

None of this would be difficult to do, other companies do it all the time. Doesn't seem insane at all in the technological reality that we exist in today. However, in the current paradigm, which we are in, yes, sorting does seem insane.

that is true, the problem ith this is that you need to implement it and that cost time and mony. and that is something that always is a hurdle in burocracy, all of the mmanegment want it done, but none of them want to do it in there term and budged, because they look at short term when it comes to profed becasue that is what they will be judged on.

[TriloByte 1,818]

10 minutes ago, David&Femke said:

that is true, the problem ith this is that you need to implement it and that cost time and mony. and that is something that always is a hurdle in burocracy, all of the mmanegment want it done, but none of them want to do it in there term and budged, because they look at short term when it comes to profed becasue that is what they will be judged on.

 

 

 

I say take the government out of the picture altogether and put the smart people in charge (engineers, scientists, programmers etc). Whole other subject (technical inefficiency on planet Earth in general). 40,000 children don't starve to death each day because of a lack of resources. They starve because human beings use poor strategies to meet needs (work for a living, cooperative monetary system versus competitive, etc). Some have called it structural violence (where the system itself restricts people from getting what they need). Anyway, getting way too deep too fast here. Over and out!

Edited May 1, 2017 by dbmathis

[Antriksh 12]

Hey Guys, my fiance (in US) has been trying to call NVC but she can't get beyond the answering machine.

[Ermin&Zijada 141]

Anxiously waiting until 9PM 😁🙏

[TriloByte 1,818]

Good luck tonight everyone. I hope all of the nice people I have met on here, who are waiting on NOA2, get approved.