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Jrozzler   17

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Hello I just got engaged to my Canadian fiancé. We have been dating for two years.  She is going to move here to the states with me. I spoke with an immigration lawyer and he told me that we could get a marriage license and apply for AOS, here in the states and skip the k1 or. CR1 visa process. I thought that was fraud but he told me as long as we didn't send out wedding invitations and did low key then it would be fine and save us a lot of time and money. This seems sketchy to me. What do you think? And what is trhe cheapest, fastest route to take?  I thought I was set on the k1 but this lawyer just through me for a loop!Thank you! 

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Hypnos
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A complaint to their State Bar for advising you to commit a federal crime may well be in order. 

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Fraud   But the most popular option.

Ontarkie
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Edited to ask is she in the US right now? If not do not listen to that lawyer.

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Edited to ask is she in the US right now?

If not do not listen to that lawyer.

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I don't know why attorneys tell this to people.  When my husband I decided to apply for a visa I called an attorney and had a consultation.  He told me basically the same thing.  He said have him come on a tourist visa and then get married and he can stay.  My thought was "oh great now I know what to do".  I told my husband and he said no no you can't do it that way.  Then doing some research I found VJ and we got married in his country and applied for Cr1 WITHOUT the lawyer.  And you are right, that would be fraud.

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A complaint to their State Bar for advising you to commit a federal crime may well be in order. 

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Day 0 (4/23/12) Petitions mailed (I-360, I-485, I-765)
2 (4/25/12) Petitions delivered to Chicago Lockbox
11 (5/3/12) Received 3 paper NOAs
13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
15 (5/7/12) Did an unpleasant walk-in biometrics in Fort Worth, TX
45 (6/7/12) Received email & text notification of an interview on 7/10
67 (6/29/12) EAD production ordered
77 (7/9/12) Received EAD
78 (7/10/12) Interview
100 (8/1/12) I-485 transferred to Vermont Service Centre
143 (9/13/12) Contacted DHS Ombudsman
268 (1/16/13) I-360, I-485 consolidated and transferred to Dallas
299 (2/16/13) Received second interview letter for 3/8
319 (3/8/13) Approved at interview
345 (4/3/13) I-360, I-485 formally approved; green card production ordered
353 (4/11/13) Received green card

 

Naturalisation

Day 0 (1/3/18) N-400 filed online

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If she enters the US without an immigration visa with the intent to immigrate, then that's fraud.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

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8/15/2017: POE

 

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Fraud

 

But the most popular option.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Unless ofc she is in the US right now. In which case the intent upon her entry was not to get married (if you guys do). In this case she can stay and adjust status...

 

I had never heard of this either before VJ and it seems like a thin line. I mean I guess even if intent was not there, how do you prove that it wasn't? 

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2016-03-19         i-129F Sent
2016-03-24         i-129F NOA1
2016-06-14         i-129F NOA2
2016-07-08         NVC Rec'd
2016-07-12         Case #
2016-07-13         NVC Left
2016-07-14         Consulate Rec'd
2016-07-19         Medical
2016-08-11         Interview Date (approved)
2016-09-06         Issued
2016-09-09         Visa In Hand
2016-10-19         POE Dallas Fort-Worth
2016-10-30         Our Halloween Wedding

2016-11-16         AOS package sent (i-485, i-131, i-765, i-864, g-325a, DS-3025)
2016-11-17         AOS package delivered to Chicago lockbox
2016-11-23         NOA1's by e-mail and text (@ 10:30 pm CT)
2016-11-26         NOA1 hard copies
2016-12-03         Biometrics appointment in mail
2016-12-07         Biometrics (Early walk-in Desoto, appointment was for Dec 13th)

2017-02-17         Notice of card in production by email and text (@8:00 am CT, i-765) - Day 92

2017-02-22         Notice of approval by email and text (@1:00 pm CT, i-765 and i-131) - Day 97

2017-02-22         Notice of card being mailed by email and text (@7:00 pm CT, i-765) - Day 97

2017-02-25         EAD/AP combo card arrived in mail - Day 100

2017-03-03         Notice of green card in production by email and text (@4:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-03         Notice of approval by email and text (@6:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-11          Green card arrived in mail  - Day 113

2018-12-03          First day to file for ROC (i-751)

 

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2 minutes ago, Suss&Camm said:

Unless ofc she is in the US right now. In which case the intent upon her entry was not to get married (if you guys do). In this case she can stay and adjust status...

 

I had never heard of this either before VJ and it seems like a thin line. I mean I guess even if intent was not there, how do you prove that it wasn't? 

 

Intent is nor a factor by then

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Suss&Camm   2,213

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

 

Intent is nor a factor by then

Not even if they suspect you of committing visa fraud...? I mean I get it and I don't I guess hahahaha

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2016-03-19         i-129F Sent
2016-03-24         i-129F NOA1
2016-06-14         i-129F NOA2
2016-07-08         NVC Rec'd
2016-07-12         Case #
2016-07-13         NVC Left
2016-07-14         Consulate Rec'd
2016-07-19         Medical
2016-08-11         Interview Date (approved)
2016-09-06         Issued
2016-09-09         Visa In Hand
2016-10-19         POE Dallas Fort-Worth
2016-10-30         Our Halloween Wedding

2016-11-16         AOS package sent (i-485, i-131, i-765, i-864, g-325a, DS-3025)
2016-11-17         AOS package delivered to Chicago lockbox
2016-11-23         NOA1's by e-mail and text (@ 10:30 pm CT)
2016-11-26         NOA1 hard copies
2016-12-03         Biometrics appointment in mail
2016-12-07         Biometrics (Early walk-in Desoto, appointment was for Dec 13th)

2017-02-17         Notice of card in production by email and text (@8:00 am CT, i-765) - Day 92

2017-02-22         Notice of approval by email and text (@1:00 pm CT, i-765 and i-131) - Day 97

2017-02-22         Notice of card being mailed by email and text (@7:00 pm CT, i-765) - Day 97

2017-02-25         EAD/AP combo card arrived in mail - Day 100

2017-03-03         Notice of green card in production by email and text (@4:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-03         Notice of approval by email and text (@6:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-11          Green card arrived in mail  - Day 113

2018-12-03          First day to file for ROC (i-751)

 

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Boiler   45,525

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2 minutes ago, Suss&Camm said:

Not even if they suspect you of committing visa fraud...? I mean I get it and I don't I guess hahahaha

In which case you would not have been allowed entry.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Suss&Camm   2,213

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

In which case you would not have been allowed entry.

Ah... ok so this is decided at the border...gotcha.. thnx :)

K1 Visa & AOS

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2016-03-19         i-129F Sent
2016-03-24         i-129F NOA1
2016-06-14         i-129F NOA2
2016-07-08         NVC Rec'd
2016-07-12         Case #
2016-07-13         NVC Left
2016-07-14         Consulate Rec'd
2016-07-19         Medical
2016-08-11         Interview Date (approved)
2016-09-06         Issued
2016-09-09         Visa In Hand
2016-10-19         POE Dallas Fort-Worth
2016-10-30         Our Halloween Wedding

2016-11-16         AOS package sent (i-485, i-131, i-765, i-864, g-325a, DS-3025)
2016-11-17         AOS package delivered to Chicago lockbox
2016-11-23         NOA1's by e-mail and text (@ 10:30 pm CT)
2016-11-26         NOA1 hard copies
2016-12-03         Biometrics appointment in mail
2016-12-07         Biometrics (Early walk-in Desoto, appointment was for Dec 13th)

2017-02-17         Notice of card in production by email and text (@8:00 am CT, i-765) - Day 92

2017-02-22         Notice of approval by email and text (@1:00 pm CT, i-765 and i-131) - Day 97

2017-02-22         Notice of card being mailed by email and text (@7:00 pm CT, i-765) - Day 97

2017-02-25         EAD/AP combo card arrived in mail - Day 100

2017-03-03         Notice of green card in production by email and text (@4:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-03         Notice of approval by email and text (@6:00 pm CT, i-485) - Day 106

2017-03-11          Green card arrived in mail  - Day 113

2018-12-03          First day to file for ROC (i-751)

 

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Penguin_ie   5,993

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**** off topic post and replies to same removed.  Stick to constructive advice for the Op or do not post *****

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Jawaree   717

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It would be fraud if you planned to arrive here , marry @ adjust, its been done

many times, however  coming on vwp & being denied would not allow you

appeal the denial.Be honest & careful; what you do in the process.

 

If ones already in the country , they can adjust after marrying

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caliliving   606

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8 minutes ago, Jawaree said:

It would be fraud if you planned to arrive here , marry @ adjust, its been done

many times, however  coming on vwp & being denied would not allow you

appeal the denial.Be honest & careful; what you do in the process.

 

If ones already in the country , they can adjust after marrying

canadians dont enter on VWP!!! its a b2 that u dont need a visa for.

 

2 hours ago, Suss&Camm said:

Ah... ok so this is decided at the border...gotcha.. thnx :)

haha exactly;) 

 

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