Trump Tells DHS To Prepare For Border Wall Construction

[MarkPerry 488]

In a wide-ranging request for documents and analysis, President-elect Donald Trump's transition team asked the Department of Homeland Security last month to assess all assets available for border wall and barrier construction.

The requests were made in a Dec. 5 meeting between Trump's transition team and Department of Homeland Security officials, according to an internal agency memo reviewed by Reuters. The document offers a glimpse into the president-elect's strategy for securing the U.S. borders and reversing polices put in place by the Obama administration.

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-03/trump-tells-dhs-prep-border-wall-construction-demands-info-all-immigration-related-e

[MarkPerry 488]

WASHINGTON In a wide-ranging request for documents and analysis, President-elect Donald Trump's transition team asked the Department of Homeland Security last month to assess all assets available for border wall and barrier construction.

The team also asked about the department's capacity for expanding immigrant detention and about an aerial surveillance program that was scaled back by the Obama administration but remains popular with immigration hardliners. And it asked whether federal workers have altered biographic information kept by the department about immigrants out of concern for their civil liberties.

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-border-trump-exclusive-idUSKBN14N0TY?il=0

[eieio 1,594]

Trump should ask everyone, in a tweet, what color they think the wall should be.  Let everyone have their say on the color.  I think red white and blue would be the way to go. 

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Will the wall extend to the International Water line? If not, serious waste of money. And why did he not ask Mexico since they are going to be paying for it?

 

[MarkPerry 488]

6 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

Will the wall extend to the International Water line? If not, serious waste of money. And why did he not ask Mexico since they are going to be paying for it?

 

I do have a little personal experience with international waters like Lake Falcon on the US/Mexico border.  Lake is too big to cross without a boat, it is heavily patrolled on both side and on the US side not only DHS and local sheriff you have the Texas Game Warden patrolling also.  So that is why you don't hear much if anything about international waters being a route for illegal immigration.

 

I would wait until Trump takes office to find out who will pay for the wall, It does feel like Obama has already stepped down due to all of Trumps wins the last few wins on business and Making America Great.   I would think something to do with remittance back to Mexico will be part of the wall funding.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

37 minutes ago, MarkPerry said:

I do have a little personal experience with international waters like Lake Falcon on the US/Mexico border.  Lake is too big to cross without a boat, it is heavily patrolled on both side and on the US side not only DHS and local sheriff you have the Texas Game Warden patrolling also.  So that is why you don't hear much if anything about international waters being a route for illegal immigration.

 

I would wait until Trump takes office to find out who will pay for the wall, It does feel like Obama has already stepped down due to all of Trumps wins the last few wins on business and Making America Great.   I would think something to do with remittance back to Mexico will be part of the wall funding.

Winning?

 

[millefleur 5,046]

If Mexico doesn't pay for it, I say we riot. Hold the man to his word if he's going to actually go through with it.

Edited January 4, 2017 by millefleur

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

4 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

Winning?

 

The ol great Wall of China hail Mary.   That is just as lame as bush sucked too or it wasn't on CNN so it doesn't count 

[Dakine10 5,452]

1 hour ago, millefleur said:

If Mexico doesn't pay for it, I say we riot. Hold the man to his word if he's going to actually go through with it.

   The left never expected him to follow through on his words and the right doesn't care what he does either way, so  I don't think it will lead to riots.

[bcking 3,157]

Ya I never really expected this to be a serious thing. Even for people who strongly think we need to reign in illegal immigration (I agree we should), I just don't see how a wall is going to really solve many problems. It's going to be a logistical nightmare, incredibly expensive, and in the end I just don't think it will be very successful. It will not only cost a metric load to build, but then to maintain it won't be feasible. So even if it is a good barrier while it's shiny and new, it won't last long. You're talking an almost 2,000 mile wall. Just don't think it's practical. If it actually happens, I guess we'll see.

[MarkPerry 488]

2 minutes ago, bcking said:

Ya I never really expected this to be a serious thing. Even for people who strongly think we need to reign in illegal immigration (I agree we should), I just don't see how a wall is going to really solve many problems. It's going to be a logistical nightmare, incredibly expensive, and in the end I just don't think it will be very successful. It will not only cost a metric load to build, but then to maintain it won't be feasible. So even if it is a good barrier while it's shiny and new, it won't last long. You're talking an almost 2,000 mile wall. Just don't think it's practical. If it actually happens, I guess we'll see.

It will be a huge deterrent.  Just like they have those metal detector things when you leave a store, is it full proof? Of course not but I am sure it works. 

As  Trump has said, if you don't have borders then you don't have a country.   I would be happy to go down there for a few weeks every so often over the project length, and build the wall for free and donate material, It would be my patriotic duty as a US citizen.

[eieio 1,594]

7 minutes ago, bcking said:

Ya I never really expected this to be a serious thing. Even for people who strongly think we need to reign in illegal immigration (I agree we should), I just don't see how a wall is going to really solve many problems. It's going to be a logistical nightmare, incredibly expensive, and in the end I just don't think it will be very successful. It will not only cost a metric load to build, but then to maintain it won't be feasible. So even if it is a good barrier while it's shiny and new, it won't last long. You're talking an almost 2,000 mile wall. Just don't think it's practical. If it actually happens, I guess we'll see.

What color do you think the wall should be?

[bcking 3,157]

19 minutes ago, MarkPerry said:

It will be a huge deterrent.  Just like they have those metal detector things when you leave a store, is it full proof? Of course not but I am sure it works. 

As  Trump has said, if you don't have borders then you don't have a country.   I would be happy to go down there for a few weeks every so often over the project length, and build the wall for free and donate material, It would be my patriotic duty as a US citizen.

I don't think a metal detector in a store is a fair comparison. A store doesn't have 2,000 miles of metal detectors to manage. A metal detector doesn't stop anyone from leaving. It just alerts people. It's a horrible comparison actually. 

 

Is it just going to be a wall? If so, climb over it. Barb wire? Cut it.

 

It will need constant monitoring. How do you propose that? Patrols? That's a lot of manpower for 2,000 miles. CCTV? Again, imagine that over 2,000 miles.

 

If we can get other people to pay for it, I guess we can give it a shot. Just don't want to see too much money wasted on a fool's errand.

 

As for the color - why not make it optically clear? So you see through it. That way people would just run like they are normally trying to cross the border and then boom. They run into an invisible wall. We're already talking about a 2,000 mile wall which is a little crazy, why not add invisibility?

[smilesammich 10,727]

20 minutes ago, MarkPerry said:

It will be a huge deterrent.  Just like they have those metal detector things when you leave a store, is it full proof? Of course not but I am sure it works. 

As  Trump has said, if you don't have borders then you don't have a country.   I would be happy to go down there for a few weeks every so often over the project length, and build the wall for free and donate material, It would be my patriotic duty as a US citizen.

the question you wall fans need to ask is if it will deter enough to justify it's initial cost and upkeep. but i guess since you say things like 'is it full proof, of course not but i'm sure it works' so long as the wall is big and flashy, you'll be quite pleasantly entertained and that's all that matters. 

[MarkPerry 488]

3 minutes ago, bcking said:

It will need constant monitoring. How do you propose that? Patrols? That's a lot of manpower for 2,000 miles. CCTV? Again, imagine that over 2,000 miles.

 

I am sure manpower and CCTV and drones, etc will all be used.  Yes, it will cost some money, but the overall saving the US will get will be well worth it.

 

I am sure immigration laws are now going to be enforced with Trump, and that will also be a huge deterrent.  Right now Illegals are basically free from civil or criminal laws and are given a free pass.  Heck if I lived in Mexico I would be over here, it a paradise where US laws don't apply to you.

 

2000 Miles of wall, I am sure a lot of that area is probably desert or mountain and not really easily reached from Mexico.  I do see some fencing going up as well.   But rest to sure most of it will be a Wall.