LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR RED FLAGS

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

That girl that died in Morocco last year- was that your now fiance's fiancee or wife?

now THAT is a red flag!!!

To say the least! What are some people thinking?!

It would only be a red flag if he was guilty of anything. Both the Moroccan government and ours have done their investigations and found nothing.

well...I am not real judgemental. Shes only been dead a year. I strongly suggest you use an immigration attorney. You are going to have one hell of a time in USCIS and the consulate is another story. You need a real good explanation letter and the help of an attorney for this petition to ever see the light of day.

And yes the reason the whole situation is macabre is quite frankly your non chalant attittude. If I were you and were confronted with that fact I would have answered it alot differently than you did. You show absolutely no empathy for this dead girl whatsover in your tone and the fact that you have his picture blasted all over the forums and you have not even filed and you are up here posting is worse. You really need to talk to an immigration attorney about your chances of even gettting him here. I find it very strange that they denied him and then he has american number 2. I guess death stops a petition. The whole thing walks into such a department of creepy that even I , with a million things to say, cannot find the words to say. I feel so sorry for this girl that died. I feel sorry she risked everything to help a man come here and then lost her life..Young young women do not die real easily. It must have been a horrible death for her... and so scared and so far from home....and if it was illness and she was inadequately cared for,,,, that is even worse

I thought your response would be more filled of his love for her... how much he suffered and how you met 6 months later and how he told you all his pain. It sounds like he was right back online chatting away or maybe you are someone he knew before. No one goes to Morocco and gets engaged that fast unless they were on the backburner....Maybe there is a very good explanation. I sure woudnt leave it on the boards if there were... It s just a very tragic and sad situation. I am sad for you and sad for this girl. The guy may be nice enough but he sounds like the US is a goal

I even have her autopsy and her official death certificate, stamped and all.

Wow, that's macabre.

Sorry Mags, but it is.

It falls into the USCIS horror movie catagory

[ya falaha! 0]

I agree 1000000% with everything you've said, Wahrania.

Like you said, wahrania, I can't imagine the fear that poor girl was feeling as she was dying in a foreign country away from her family. The fact that she was so young and had a young child is tragic. It's just too sad for words.

That girl that died in Morocco last year- was that your now fiance's fiancee or wife?

now THAT is a red flag!!!

To say the least! What are some people thinking?!

It would only be a red flag if he was guilty of anything. Both the Moroccan government and ours have done their investigations and found nothing.

well...I am not real judgemental. Shes only been dead a year. I strongly suggest you use an immigration attorney. You are going to have one hell of a time in USCIS and the consulate is another story. You need a real good explanation letter and the help of an attorney for this petition to ever see the light of day.

And yes the reason the whole situation is macabre is quite frankly your non chalant attittude. If I were you and were confronted with that fact I would have answered it alot differently than you did. You show absolutely no empathy for this dead girl whatsover in your tone and the fact that you have his picture blasted all over the forums and you have not even filed and you are up here posting is worse. You really need to talk to an immigration attorney about your chances of even gettting him here. I find it very strange that they denied him and then he has american number 2. I guess death stops a petition. The whole thing walks into such a department of creepy that even I , with a million things to say, cannot find the words to say. I feel so sorry for this girl that died. I feel sorry she risked everything to help a man come here and then lost her life..Young young women do not die real easily. It must have been a horrible death for her... and so scared and so far from home....and if it was illness and she was inadequately cared for,,,, that is even worse

I thought your response would be more filled of his love for her... how much he suffered and how you met 6 months later and how he told you all his pain. It sounds like he was right back online chatting away or maybe you are someone he knew before. No one goes to Morocco and gets engaged that fast unless they were on the backburner....Maybe there is a very good explanation. I sure woudnt leave it on the boards if there were... It s just a very tragic and sad situation. I am sad for you and sad for this girl. The guy may be nice enough but he sounds like the US is a goal

I even have her autopsy and her official death certificate, stamped and all.

Wow, that's macabre.

Sorry Mags, but it is.

It falls into the USCIS horror movie catagory

[polarbear 0]

If we are worried about red flags at the interview, would it be advisable to write a letter detailing the timeline of our relationship and addressing anything that might be seen as a red flag?

I'm asking this because of my ignorance when I originally filed (prior to finding this website ) When asked how we met, I simply said that "we met while he was working/living in France and I was a student there." That's it, end of story, one line..... I submitted proof of this & photos and it's clear we were living in the same city for at least 6 months, but so far this is all they have on our relationship. Now I'm worried that it just won't be enough and that in itself will be seen as a red flag. That and our language issue - we don't speak eachother's language well, we comunicate in a 2nd language. But at least the language thing is easy to prove since we're fluent and we have communications in French.

Would a letter detailing the evolution of our relationship be enough? Sorry, but any reply would be helpful - I'm really starting to stress out and we don't even have the date

[Jenn! 918]

If we are worried about red flags at the interview, would it be advisable to write a letter detailing the timeline of our relationship and addressing anything that might be seen as a red flag?

I'm asking this because of my ignorance when I originally filed (prior to finding this website ) When asked how we met, I simply said that "we met while he was working/living in France and I was a student there." That's it, end of story, one line..... I submitted proof of this & photos and it's clear we were living in the same city for at least 6 months, but so far this is all they have on our relationship. Now I'm worried that it just won't be enough and that in itself will be seen as a red flag. That and our language issue - we don't speak eachother's language well, we comunicate in a 2nd language. But at least the language thing is easy to prove since we're fluent and we have communications in French.

Would a letter detailing the evolution of our relationship be enough? Sorry, but any reply would be helpful - I'm really starting to stress out and we don't even have the date

We went through Morocco, but our circumstances were very similar. I don't think I really put anything in the original petition more than what you described above. It was clear from what we submitted that we were living in the same place. I didn't address the language issue int he petition. I think Wadi was asked at his interview how we communicate. We didn't hit any snags in the process.

Of course, as always, keep in mind that every case is different.

[Badrs Love 0]

That girl that died in Morocco last year- was that your now fiance's fiancee or wife?

now THAT is a red flag!!!

To say the least! What are some people thinking?!

It would only be a red flag if he was guilty of anything. Both the Moroccan government and ours have done their investigations and found nothing.

I think they meant red flag for your immigration case, not a red flag for a criminal case.

If someone gets denied, the USC dies and then he tries to marry another USC shortly thereafter, that would probably be a red flag for immigration. I know it would be for me if I were working on the case!

What is the definition of marrying shortly thereafter? We have not married. We are applying for a K1 and Heather died 4/20/06. She's been gone for more than a year. And by the time he gets to the US, it will be about 2 years since she's been gone. I've already consulted with Marc Ellis and he has informed me that her death will not be a concern to the CO, their denial will. I have to prove that their marriage was real to then prove that ours is.

[Fandango 1,439]

BL, how do you figure you'll get an approval if there was a denial with your man and his first American woman?

That's not even factoring in the 'replacement' American woman factor.

Edited October 18, 2007 by LisaD

[ya falaha! 0]

BL...it doesn't make you suspicious in the least that he's after yet another USC? Let alone the fact that the first USC died while in his household. That alone would make me run for my life. Unbelievable what some women will accept and find "normal".

I'm bewildered about this whole scenario. Too bizarre.

Edited October 18, 2007 by moody

[Badrs Love 0]

BL, how do you figure you'll get an approval if there was a denial with your man and his first American woman?

That's not even factoring in the 'replacement' American woman factor.

Because there are many people out there that get approval after denials. His "first American woman" was his wife and she was sick and she died. There is no "replacement American woman factor". I could live in Russia for all Badr cares. He doesn't care where I live, he loves me for me.

BL...it doesn't make you suspicious in the least that he's after yet another USC? Let alone the fact that the first USC died while in his household. That alone would make me run for my life. Unbelievable what some women will accept and find "normal".

I'm bewildered about this whole scenario. Too bizarre.

No it doesn't bother me in the least bit. She died because of previous medical issues long before she met Badr. Go read "My Story" and maybe you'll understand.

[monnik 0]

*WAVING BIG, HUGE, GIANT, BLOOD RED FLAG*

First of all, may she rest in peace. I, too, feel bad that she died so far away from her family. I try not to think about what my family would feel if I died here in Egypt. I surely wouldn't want them to take it out on my husband, but it is a tempestuous scenario nonetheless.

Your case doesn't have a red flag because of her death. It's because of the previous denial. It will be very hard for you to prove the first marriage was real, when she herself had trouble doing it. That doesn't mean you can't do it, but you have to realize what you are up against. You should be well prepared for the types of comments or questions that the consular may bring up. You should also be prepared on how to handle them.

I, at first, thought that this was some inside joke or fight from another board, but now that I see that the situation is very real, I can empathize with all sides.

Please try to see things through the eyes of a consular whose concern is that a young man from a high fraud country filed a petition that got denied, then his wife/fiancee died in his country, he found a new love from the same country as his first one (probably in the same way as the first one), and he would like to petition again.

As an outsider, who doesn't know anything about what happened, it looks like a frightening or strange situation. The thing that grabbed my attention was the picture of you wearing her engagement/wedding robes. Maybe you would like to pay tribute to her memory or show everyone that your fiance is moving on, but it can be perceived as one girl being brought in to finish what the first one started.

Good luck in all aspects.

Edited October 18, 2007 by monnik

[Dr. A ♥ O 203]

OMG. I feel so weird about all of this.

Edited October 18, 2007 by OlivianWaleed

[Badrs Love 0]

*WAVING BIG, HUGE, GIANT, BLOOD RED FLAG*

First of all, may she rest in peace. I, too, feel bad that she died so far away from her family. I try not to think about what my family would feel if I died here in Egypt. I surely wouldn't want them to take it out on my husband, but it is a tempestuous scenario nonetheless.

Your case doesn't have a red flag because of her death. It's because of the previous denial. It will be very hard for you to prove the first marriage was real, when she herself had trouble doing it. That doesn't mean you can't do it, but you have to realize what you are up against. You should be well prepared for the types of comments or questions that the consular may bring up. You should also be prepared on how to handle them.

I, at first, thought that this was some inside joke or fight from another board, but now that I see that the situation is very real, I can sympathize with all sides.

Please try to see things through the eyes of a consular whose concern is that a young man from a high fraud country filed a petition that got denied, then his wife/fiancee died in his country, he found a new love from the same country as his first one (probably in the same way as the first one), and he would like to petition again.

As an outsider, who doesn't know anything about what happened, it looks like a frightening or strange situation. The thing that grabbed my attention was the picture of you wearing her engagement/wedding robes. Maybe you would like to pay tribute to her memory or show everyone that your fiance is moving on, but it can be perceived as one girl being brought in to finish what the first one started.

Good luck in all aspects.

She will rest in peace in the country that she loved and near the man that loved her even more. Her family doesn't give a ####### about her then or now. They claim they do, but they didn't support her when she was alive. In my opinion, it's a little too late.

I'm not wearing her dress. Badr doesn't have any of her clothes. I rented the dress from a dress shop in town.

I do have access to her email account. I have emails that she sent to Badr and responses. I also have pictures. So it's those 2 things and our word against theirs. I know what I'm up against. I've already consulted a lawyer about our situation. Thanks for the advice.

Aimee

[Fandango 1,439]

As an outsider, who doesn't know anything about what happened, it looks like a frightening or strange situation. The thing that grabbed my attention was the picture of you wearing her engagement/wedding robes. Maybe you would like to pay tribute to her memory or show everyone that your fiance is moving on, but it can be perceived as one girl being brought in to finish what the first one started.

That belongs to the deceased wife?

wow.

In the 'mystory' new thread, BL wants to adopt the deceased wife's child.

Edited October 18, 2007 by LisaD

[sereia 0]

i must agree its very bizarre to thoseo of us not involved...but i do wish you the best of luck with your choices either way!

[ya falaha! 0]

It's not winning me over, sorry.

I love how the coroner mentioned that she was plus sized and that was part of the cause of her illness. Not to be rude but from your photo you appear plus sized. You got any sleep or stomach disorders? Better not move to Morocco if his petition is denied...AGAIN.

The whole situation reeks to high heaven.

BL, how do you figure you'll get an approval if there was a denial with your man and his first American woman?

That's not even factoring in the 'replacement' American woman factor.

Because there are many people out there that get approval after denials. His "first American woman" was his wife and she was sick and she died. There is no "replacement American woman factor". I could live in Russia for all Badr cares. He doesn't care where I live, he loves me for me.

BL...it doesn't make you suspicious in the least that he's after yet another USC? Let alone the fact that the first USC died while in his household. That alone would make me run for my life. Unbelievable what some women will accept and find "normal".

I'm bewildered about this whole scenario. Too bizarre.

No it doesn't bother me in the least bit. She died because of previous medical issues long before she met Badr. Go read "My Story" and maybe you'll understand.

[ayesha4akram 0]

*WAVING BIG, HUGE, GIANT, BLOOD RED FLAG*

First of all, may she rest in peace. I, too, feel bad that she died so far away from her family. I try not to think about what my family would feel if I died here in Egypt. I surely wouldn't want them to take it out on my husband, but it is a tempestuous scenario nonetheless.

Your case doesn't have a red flag because of her death. It's because of the previous denial. It will be very hard for you to prove the first marriage was real, when she herself had trouble doing it. That doesn't mean you can't do it, but you have to realize what you are up against. You should be well prepared for the types of comments or questions that the consular may bring up. You should also be prepared on how to handle them.

I, at first, thought that this was some inside joke or fight from another board, but now that I see that the situation is very real, I can empathize with all sides.

Please try to see things through the eyes of a consular whose concern is that a young man from a high fraud country filed a petition that got denied, then his wife/fiancee died in his country, he found a new love from the same country as his first one (probably in the same way as the first one), and he would like to petition again.

As an outsider, who doesn't know anything about what happened, it looks like a frightening or strange situation. The thing that grabbed my attention was the picture of you wearing her engagement/wedding robes. Maybe you would like to pay tribute to her memory or show everyone that your fiance is moving on, but it can be perceived as one girl being brought in to finish what the first one started.

Good luck in all aspects.

Oh my God . Thank goodness it's daytime here, and please remind me not to open this thread tonight cause if i read this at night, i'll have to sleep with the lights on (ifff i can manage to get some sleep). This is too freaky for me.

May she rest in peace