I-751 December 2016 Filers

[Natonstan 129]

Just noticed someone in a Facebook group reporting a 'Name update' on their case.... they're a Jan 2017 CSC filer as well, no rhyme or reason to any of this

[ApplyingforN400 126]

11 minutes ago, Natonstan said:

Just noticed someone in a Facebook group reporting a 'Name update' on their case.... they're a Jan 2017 CSC filer as well, no rhyme or reason to any of this

Even on this site jan is only full force with approvals, 2 random interview approvals for dec and jan has 15 approvals with no interviews. 

 

I wouldnt be surprised if they misplaced this whole month 😂 (anger laugh, worst kind of anger)

Edited May 15, 2018 by ApplyingforN400

[Scazy 78]

No need to be negative just yet. 

All January approvals came from NBS. None transferred cases still waiting at CSC. There is also cases that got transferred ( both with combo and just roc) and never heard anything since transfer - which is even less predictable situation than just waiting at CSC. So honestly, I’m not even sure if I’d be happy to see my case transferred, especially now when CSC is just about start December pile. And btw, I just saw a few approvals from today in WAC17073.... cases which is December fillers. No transfer status prior that. 

Edited May 15, 2018 by Scazy

[dburnt 59]

I'm a December filer and not WAC17073, so not sure what the real pattern to the numbers would be

 

[ApplyingforN400 126]

9 minutes ago, Scazy said:

No need to be negative just yet. 

All January approvals came from NBS. None transferred cases still waiting at CSC. There is also cases that got transferred ( both with combo and just roc) and never heard anything since transfer - which is even less predictable situation than just waiting at CSC. So honestly, I’m not even sure if I’d be happy to see my case transferred, especially now when CSC is just about start December pile. And btw, I just saw a few approvals in WAC17073.... cases which is December fillers. No transfer status prior that. 

The process was suppose to be a 3 month or less for joint applications, most of us are at 18 months or more, we cant move states without causing a mess, we cant switch jobs without possibly ending up with a mess and we cant travel outside the country without irrational fear, we basically waited so long that most of us are crippled on any important life decision incase it causes way more delay than the already unbelievable wait we went through, the no need to be negative part has long gone. But for some, life is simple and doesnt change for years so 3 months or 18 makes no difference, i understand that. 

 

Back on topic, I checked many cases around my case and the May transfers to NBC is actually very low compared to the majority of cases who had no transfer. 

 

I have to solid 2 theories now, being transferred to NBC most def means an interview whether combo interview or just I751 interview, the interview is coming. 

 

The second theory as to why it seems like “most people got the transfer on VJ” is because we are a community that convinced itself late last year early this year that applying for the N400 with a pending N400 is a good idea. So i think most dec 2016 filers applied fot N400 hence most of us recieved that transfer and we are probably going to get skipped when CSC starts approving dec

Edited May 15, 2018 by ApplyingforN400

[Scazy 78]

2 minutes ago, dburnt said:

I'm a December filer and not WAC17073, so not sure what the real pattern to the numbers would be

 

I’d say there is definitely a pattern in the cases numbers, at least rough estimate. 

 User MHZ in November fillers thread posted his statistics of cases numbers to see approvals/ RFE / other and it does makes Sence to me. 

You case does not start with WAC1706 or WAC1707? What’s your 4th digit? 

 

A little article on cases numbers meaning I use for reference and comparation to September/ November cases: 

 

USCIS Receipt Numbers Explained (LIN, SRC, EAC, WAC, IOE)

 

The USCIS receipt or case number is one of the most commonly used numbers, by immigrants and lawyers alike, to track the progress or identify a particular immigration case or filing.

These receipt numbers start with three letters followed by a series of numbers, for example EAC-15-123-45678.  Here is how to understand what the numbers mean.

Processing Service Center

The first three letters indicate the USCIS service center which is processing the petition, as follows:

– EAC – Vermont Service Center;
– VSC – Vermont Service Center;
– WAC – California Service Center;
– CSC – California Service Center;
– LIN – Nebraska Service Center;
– NSC – Nebraska Service Center;
– SRC – Texas Service Center;
– TSC – Texas Service Center;
– MSC – National Benefits Center;
– NBC – National Benefits Center;
– IOE – ELIS (e-Filing); and
– YSC – Potomac Service Center.

Fiscal Year

The next two digits represent the fiscal year in which USCIS received the petition.  In the example above, “15″ means that the petition was received by USCIS during Fiscal Year 2015.   Note that the government fiscal year runs from October 1st until September 30th.

Computer Workday

The next three digits represent the computer workdayon which the receipt was processed and the fee was taken.   This represents the sequential workday on which USCIS is accepting cases for intake.    In the example above, 123 would indicate that this was the 123th processing date of the fiscal year.    If necessary, a date of filing can be calculated starting from October 1st.

Case Processing Number

Finally, the last five digits are used to identify uniquely the petition filed.    Our observation has been that these are sequential numbers which are issued as cases are being processed at the intake facility.    Cases filed together are often given sequential (or close to sequential) numbers for the last five digits (and overall).

 

Just now, ApplyingforN400 said:

The process was suppose to be a 3 month or less for joint applications, most of us are at 18 months or more, we cant move states without causing a mess, we cant switch jobs without possibly ending up with a mess and we cant travel outside the country without irrational fear, the no need to be negative part has long gone. 

 

Back on topic, I checked many cases around my case and the may trasnfer to NBC is actually very low compared to the majority of cases who had no transfer. 

 

I have to solid 2 theories now, being transferred to NBC most def means and interview whether combo interview or just I751 interview, the interview is coming. 

 

The second theory as to why it seems like “most people got the transfer on VJ” is because we are a community that convinced itself late last year early this year that applying for the N400 with a pending N400 is a good idea. So i think most dec 2016 filers applied fot N400 hence most of us recieved that transfer and we are probably going to get skipped when CSC starts approving dec

Oh I would not really agree that idea of filing n 400 was commonly accepted as a bright one on VJ and I remember myself and others arguing that having 2 pending processes with USICS is definitely not the best route considering it’s unknown the way combo cases would be handled ( most likely sent to local office in n 400 line for an interview and who knows how long that would take) so it’s kind of sourse of additional stress. But we did saw a few nice and neat approvals here on combo cases so its definitely worked out for some. 

 

From what we see now, yes, MAJORITY of transferred to NBS fillers are combo cases. However, not all of them. There is also Joint / waiver cases which reporting approvals ( like in January thread). That transfer might be a workload transfer - so they sent cases randomly without separating on combo / not combo, and , as you said, a lot of ppl indeed filed n 400 - which is might be the reason why I said MAJORITY at the beginning of this paragraph. Or, you right about preparing cases for interview and they probably venting out cases that could be approved without one hence we see a movement among transferred cases . Who knows. 

 

BUT! My point is, there is no indication that December fillers are forgotten or skipped, because the cases without transfer are simply in line at CSC and hopefully start seeing a movement very soon ( November is 51% processed based on VJ statistics) 

If you happen to be December filler with N400 pending, you waiting just like others with combos in January thread for local office transfer due to n400. 

 

I know it’s extremely stressful process to wait year and a half with no news and meanwhile passing the borders with anxiety of verifying stamp and whatnot, but hey - we all know it so constantly talking about it won’t serve good to anyone. One day passing makes us one day closer to approval and December fillers are on a right track! 

[Scazy 78]

@mattgz14 you should start a new thread to get more competent answers from users like @mindthegap other than regular fillers. Short answer: there is USICS policy specifically for situation like this giving a clear guideline for adjudicators to follow through. Your petition won’t get denied simply because of amendment. If your divorce is finalized, it would be teated as waiver.  Even if it’s not, they still RFE you for it. It would get denied if you won’t submit divorce decree in 89 days (or whatever it takes for RFE). I know 2 cases here in VJ where amendment got approved without interview or complications. Good luck! 

Edited May 16, 2018 by Scazy

[msj1224 0]

Hello, my wife and I currently live in MA and submitted our I-751 petition in December. We are moving to CA in June for a new job and won't have a permanent address for a few months while we look for housing. How long do you recommend we wait until we notify USCIS of our move and what are the consequences of the move on our application?  Thanks in advance!  

[Waiting4mygreenn 12]

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[Waiting4mygreenn 12]

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[mindthegap 2,590]

 

4 minutes ago, ApplyingforN400 said:

He is afraid to be denied while outside the country can you answer that question? No one knows what CBP does if they see on the computer your I751 has been denied whether rightfully or wrongfully

 

I can and I do. The officers at secondary can see I have a prior denial in addition to a valid pending I-751. 

They ask if I have received anything from the court (I haven’t, no pending proceedings show on the 1-800 automated court line, which infopass also verified was the case, possibly as I refiled so quickly), and I get stamped in as normal as a LPR. 

 

7 minutes ago, ApplyingforN400 said:

I never said they do it in that order.

 

I clearly said they do SOMETHING before denial not all options.

 

Ya, you did.

‘They never’, ‘first’, ‘then’, ‘then’ and ‘then’.

 

 

15 minutes ago, ApplyingforN400 said:

And MY BIG thing was which what he is asking is what happens if the I751 gets denied while your outside the country. I never talked about handling a denial from inside the country. 

 

That’s kind of the point - the process is no different whether denied while in or out of the country and the status remains, so there is really nothing to answer.  

 

 

11 minutes ago, ApplyingforN400 said:

 I guess thats why you got interview and denial, because what you think works for USCIS is clearly not the case. 

 

Clearly you had an interview and it was a mess why would they send an RFE or intent to deny? they got what they needed from the interview and denied you after. 

 

 

I post as factually as possible on here, as that is what people seek in the absence of pretty much any clarity from USCIS regarding this process.

(Un)fortunately that knowledge comes from direct experience, but I am more than happy to share that knowledge with people who seek it.

However, I make no apologies for bluntness in the face of rubbish being posted as fact.  Such inaccuracies can and do get repeated Chinese whisper style and the mis-information is then repeated and perpetuated, as evidenced by often seeing newly registered posters on here posting ‘my lawyer/cousin/the USCIS mis-information mine/ my dog told me xxxx’ and then being amazed that it is wrong.

 

 

Regarding your personal comments, aside from the brief summary below, you know precisely sod all about my interview, circumstances or denial. 

Please add me to your ignore list so it remains that way.  

 

 

 

[ApplyingforN400 126]

 

And YET you still havent answered the question. If someone got denied outside they havent yet had a chance to file a new I751. You clearly state CBP officer could see the old denial but also could see the newly filed and pending I751 which is a BIG DIFFERENC on someone without a pending I751 in file.

Maybe in your case they didnt have all the info om the first I751 denial and assumed it was denied for a simple reason since you had a new one pending

 

The point stands you still dont have an answer for someone who doesnt have a pending I751 on file only a denial. 

 

Not to mention how CBP see gray areas as fit. They even give a hard time to people with 10 year green card sometimes

 

a lawyer answered this questions by saying you will be detained until your court date. 

 

Also this is forum for discussion, and you are admitting that I posted no wrong info othet than mistake in wording (the most expected thing in an immigration forum) “then” “then” “then”. 

 

Ao instead of coming in with your “bluntess” and “shredding” people. You couldve said. Hey thats wrong, I only got an interview, not all options you mentioned and i wouldve corrected my wording. 

 

 

So AGAIN, show me my legal immigration law mistake I posted. And show me again where you know what a CBP officer would do if they only see a denial on your file?

Edited May 16, 2018 by ApplyingforN400

[Waiting4mygreenn 12]

18 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

 

 

I can and I do. The officers at secondary can see I have a prior denial in addition to a valid pending I-751. 

They ask if I have received anything from the court (I haven’t, no pending proceedings show on the 1-800 automated court line, which infopass also verified was the case, possibly as I refiled so quickly), and I get stamped in as normal as a LPR. 

 

 

Ya, you did.

‘They never’, ‘first’, ‘then’, ‘then’ and ‘then’.

 

 

 

That’s kind of the point - the process is no different whether denied while in or out of the country and the status remains, so there is really nothing to answer.  

 

 

 

I post as factually as possible on here, as that is what people seek in the absence of pretty much any clarity from USCIS regarding this process.

(Un)fortunately that knowledge comes from direct experience, but I am more than happy to share that knowledge with people who seek it.

However, I make no apologies for bluntness in the face of rubbish being posted as fact.  Such inaccuracies can and do get repeated Chinese whisper style and the mis-information is then repeated and perpetuated, as evidenced by often seeing newly registered posters on here posting ‘my lawyer/cousin/the USCIS mis-information mine/ my dog told me xxxx’ and then being amazed that it is wrong.

 

 

Regarding your personal comments, aside from the brief summary below, you know precisely sod all about my interview, circumstances or denial. 

Please add me to your ignore list so it remains that way.  

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, ApplyingforN400 said:

 

And YET you still havent answered the question. If someone got denied outside they havent yet had a chance to file a new I751. You clearly state CBP officer could see the old denial but also could see the newly filed and pending I751 which is a BIG DIFFERENC on someone without a pending I751 in file.

Maybe in your case they didnt have all the info om the first I751 denial and assumed it was denied for a simple reason since you had a new one pending

 

The point stands you still dont have an answer for someone who doesnt have a pending I751 on file only a denial. 

 

Not to mention how CBP see gray areas as fit. They even give a hard time to people with 10 year green card sometimes

 

a lawyer answered this questions by saying you will be detained until your court date. 

 

Also this is forum for discussion, and you are admitting that I posted no wrong info othet than mistake in wording (the most expected thing in an immigration forum) “then” “then” “then”. 

 

Ao instead of coming in with your “bluntess” and “shredding” people. You couldve said. Hey thats wrong, I only got an interview, not all options you mentioned and i wouldve corrected my wording. 

 

 

So AGAIN, show me my legal immigration law mistake I posted. And show me again where you know what a CBP officer would do if they only see a denial on your file?

You guys are both better than my attorney, any of you available for hire?. You should be nice to each other and give each other a hug

[Waiting4mygreenn 12]

By the way i was interviewed 2 months ago and my lawyer dog said oh ah uh eh but my cousin said i should get approval soon

[Waiting4mygreenn 12]

I meant to say my dog lawyer, but he was more like a donkey. Yet he took my money for nothing, i guess am the donkey. Am going crazy yeeeha