Texas wife indicted after lover killed

[JohnK 0]

you shouldn't be able to kill someone without some sort of legal consequence.

Even in self defense? Where do you live.... I'm sure we can find some people who would like to know that you don't have think you have the right to protect yourself.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I never said anything about the man deserving to die. My only opinion is that the man doesn't deserve to be punished, the wife does. My point of view comes from knowing that if I came home to find a guy having sex with my wife and she screamed that she was being raped you can bet that in order to protect her I'd pump him full of bullets first and ask questions later.

The wife did a stupid thing. The husband pulled the trigger.

Still as was pointed out earlier we can only speculate on the exact details of the case, which aren't clear from that article. But it might be reasonable to wonder exactly why the wife reacted the way she did - she could have just been plain stupid, but it could also have something to do with the nature of their relationship. Who knows... It's a pretty strange reaction when being caught red-handed. Could she have been afraid of the guy?

you shouldn't be able to kill someone without some sort of legal consequence.

Even in self defense? Where do you live.... I'm sure we can find some people who would like to know that you don't have think you have the right to protect yourself.

You do have the right to protect yourself - but these things are usually not very clear cut where the law is concerned - for example, shooting someone 6 times who is coming at your with a knife vs shooting someone 6 times who has his back to you and is running away.

[Caladan 19]

Sure, but the result of that decision is that a man is dead who had committed no crime.

That would depend on whether you see adultery as a crime.

Even if you do, it's not a crime where death is the punishment. At least not in liberated countries, but I think it's a safe assumption that we're not trying emulate the Taliban.

[JohnK 0]

shooting someone 6 times who is coming at your with a knife vs shooting someone 6 times who has his back to you and is running away.

My lawyer: "My client was acting in self defense. The criminal was running at him backwards believing incorrectly that my client wouldn's shoot him in the back."

[JohnK 0]

Even if you do, it's not a crime where death is the punishment. At least not in liberated countries, but I think it's a safe assumption that we're not trying emulate the Taliban.

Ah, the good ol' days. How I do miss them.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

The fleeing criminal was a rapist in the shooters mind. Why is it wrong to shoot your wife's rapist? The wife is fully responsible for the lie.

Is this a serious question?

I think this case is a great example of why it's wrong to shoot your wife's rapist.

Exactly. Rich, what if someone close to you points at someone fleeing the scene and tells you they've just committed a heinous crime? In other words, how close does that person need to be to you personally(relative, trusted friend) for it to absolve you from any legal responsability if you shoot and kill the fleeing suspect based only on what they tell you? That's legally and ethically preposterous. You can't simply go by what someone tells you no matter who that person is in relationship to you.

You're creating hypothetical situations to fit your world view. I would leave it up to the jury to sift through the facts. Liberals hate juries too it seems.

1. My wife is curled up in a ball on the front porch crying. She says she was raped by the guy driving away.

2. My wife is standing on the front porch drinking a cup of coffee, looks surprised and says the guys driving away just raped her.

Two similar scenarios that I would react differently to.

For liberals I find it odd you don't want to take human emotion into account. Your fear (from lack of knowledge) of guns is that great. Humans are not robots.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Sure, but the result of that decision is that a man is dead who had committed no crime.

That would depend on whether you see adultery as a crime.

Whether you personally do or not - its not generally considered a prosecutable crime. The best you can say about it is that its a "moral sin", but that's hardly a winning legal defence.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

For liberals I find it odd you don't want to take human emotion into account. Your fear (from lack of knowledge) of guns is that great. Humans are not robots.

Ironically enough though emotion is considered, but the determination is often made as to whether the reaction was honest and whether the force used was appropriate to the situation. Hence a person may (and has) gotten off shooting a person who has come at them with a knife, but others have gone to jail for going postal on home intruders when they were shown to have attempted to flee (hence no direct threat). If you’ll forgive the crude analogy, its not too dissimilar to those insurance claims reports you have to file if you have a car accident – the description of the accident is always more ambiguous than the original event (hence rear-enders are always the fault of the driver behind, regardless of what the other person did).

Without the emotional aspect of it (and with the abstraction), its hard to really determine someone’s exact state of mind at the time – but even so – the primary determination is made from the use of and level of force involved. if you hit an intruder on the head once with a bat who is attacking you or resisting arrest you probably wouldn’t face any charges, but if you had the guy on the floor and were repeatedly pounding him long after he had stopped resisting, you would in all likelihood be charged with a crime. As I said, its rarely clear-cut where the law is concerned.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

I'm less worried by the tough-boy rhetoric and more worried that it seems to suggest strongly that having sex with someone else's wife is a property violation.

Women are property in those countries with that 'peaceful' religion.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm less worried by the tough-boy rhetoric and more worried that it seems to suggest strongly that having sex with someone else's wife is a property violation.

Women are property in those countries with that 'peaceful' religion.

Man - that's cheap...

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

I'm less worried by the tough-boy rhetoric and more worried that it seems to suggest strongly that having sex with someone else's wife is a property violation.

Women are property in those countries with that 'peaceful' religion.

Man - that's cheap...

My comment's true. You know it.

I like how you single out my comment but not Caladan's comment.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm less worried by the tough-boy rhetoric and more worried that it seems to suggest strongly that having sex with someone else's wife is a property violation.

Women are property in those countries with that 'peaceful' religion.

Man - that's cheap...

My comment's true. You know it.

I like how you single out my comment but not Caladan's comment.

Whether its true or not - it has little of anything to do with the current topic of discussion.

In any case, what was I supposed to single-out from Caladan's comment? I did actually say much the same myself - that trotting out the "he wasn't innocent because he was an adulterer" routine appears to justify the shooting regardless of the extenuating circumstance.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

We could 'what-if' this to death.

He would be alive today if he wasn't sleeping with a married woman. I know that much.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

We could 'what-if' this to death.

He would be alive today if he wasn't sleeping with a married woman. I know that much.

Sure - no argument there, though I'm sure he didn't consider that to be (in itself) reason enough to get shot dead.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

We could 'what-if' this to death.

He would be alive today if he wasn't sleeping with a married woman. I know that much.

Sure - no argument there, though I'm sure he didn't consider that to be (in itself) reason enough to get shot dead.

It's Texas. I would expect to get shot at if I was banging someones wife.