Trump tweets flag burning should be outlawed

[Dakine10 5,452]

I apologize for going back on topic this far into a thread. I know its bad form.

In respect to flag burning. Its totally disrespectful, I find it appalling that someone could partake of the great bounties of this country and be a scum bag enough to do it.

Illegal--- NO

Freedom makes America great

Larry Flynt once said-- If the constitution can protect a scum bag like me it can protect everyone. (or words to that effect )

I don't know that you spend a whole lot of time in the middle of the road, but you really do start to make sense when you get there.

[MarkPerry 488]

seems real important, glad king trump is going to clear that up.

have you checked out the king's palace in florida? nice diggs eh? royalty and gratuitous wealth are so cute.

loss of citizenship! now this sounds exciting. where are we going to deport the uncitizenized???? hopefully an island. with an abandoned theme park.

Does it bother you that US citizens own a house or houses like that in USA?

I say good for them, Just proves the American Dream is still there

[bcking 3,157]

Does it bother you that US citizens own a house or houses like that in USA?

I say good for them, Just proves the American Dream is still there

I'm not bothered that he has the house. However, I would correct you and say that his house and his success has NOTHING to do with the American Dream. It's more like the Capitalist's Dream. Money makes more money.

The American Dream is that EVERY US citizen has an equal opportunity to achieve success through hard work and determination. Donald Trump is a man who was born rich, and through success and hard work has become richer. He is not an example that EVERY US citizen can achieve success. He is an example that a US citizen born into success can continue to achieve more success.

I'm blanking on a good example in the US of the true American Dream. The example that comes to mind is actually from the UK. Donald Trump's counterpart on The Apprentice Lord Alan Sugar. He was born in the East End to a tailor and lived in a council flat. He left school at 16 and starting selling things out of the back of a car. Now he's worth over a billion pounds. I'm sure there are examples like him in the US I just can't think of one at the moment. THAT is the "American Dream". Donald Trump is not the American Dream.

Edited December 1, 2016 by bcking

[TBoneTX 46,459]

If he's over a billion pounds, what the devil is his body mass index?

[bcking 3,157]

If he's over a billion pounds, what the devil is his body mass index?

Pounds sterling. I see what you did there

Still you have to admit he has done quite well in his life. The perfect "American" Dream, just wrong side of the pond.

[TBoneTX 46,459]

You missed one in a previous thread, too.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/618094-donald-trumps-false-cry-baby-election-recount-tweet/?p=8395924

Edited December 1, 2016 by TBoneTX

[bcking 3,157]

You missed one in a previous thread, too.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/618094-donald-trumps-false-cry-baby-election-recount-tweet/?p=8395924

Oh I saw that one before. I did actually laugh at loud. I guess I should have said that I mostly act on my gut feelings and my heart and lung hearings.

[TBoneTX 46,459]

Well, where's our +1, huh man?

What's the med-school cheer? "Auscultate, palpate, rah rah rah!"

Auscultatin is the capital of Texas, isn't it?

And if you operate on the basis of your gut feelings, is that exploratory surgery?

Edited December 1, 2016 by TBoneTX

[bcking 3,157]

Well, where's our +1, huh man?

What's the med-school cheer? "Auscultate, palpate, rah rah rah!"

Auscultatin is the capital of Texas, isn't it?

And if you operate on the basis of your gut feelings, is that exploratory surgery?

Surgeons remove the appendix all the time on the basis of their gut feelings.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I wonder how many thought punishment for desecration of the flag was a good idea back in 2005?

[Dakine10 5,452]

I wonder how many thought punishment for desecration of the flag was a good idea back in 2005?

This act would have made it illegal to desecrate the flag with the primary purpose of intimidation, inciting violence or committing an act of terrorism.

I was against that act at the time because if the primary purpose was for inciting violence or terrorism, then the charge for those crimes should suffice. Like the Patriot act, this was another bill with bipartisan support that only served to further erode civil rights. There is a difference between what this act proposed and what Trump proposed. Both are stupid ideas, however only one can possibly go forward at this point.

Edited December 2, 2016 by Dakine10

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Kewl. Thanks!

This act would have made it illegal to desecrate the flag with the primary purpose of intimidation, inciting violence or committing an act of terrorism.

I was against that act at the time because if the primary purpose was for inciting violence or terrorism, then the charge for those crimes should suffice. Like the Patriot act, this was another bill with bipartisan support that only served to further erode civil rights. There is a difference between what this act proposed and what Trump proposed. Both are stupid ideas, however only one can possibly go forward at this point.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

This act would have made it illegal to desecrate the flag with the primary purpose of intimidation, inciting violence or committing an act of terrorism.

I was against that act at the time because if the primary purpose was for inciting violence or terrorism, then the charge for those crimes should suffice. Like the Patriot act, this was another bill with bipartisan support that only served to further erode civil rights. There is a difference between what this act proposed and what Trump proposed. Both are stupid ideas, however only one can possibly go forward at this point.

That seems a very subjective burden of proof. The law in 2005.

[TBoneTX 46,459]

Surgeons remove the appendix all the time on the basis of their gut feelings.

A surgeon and his wife were sitting at home, quietly reading.

The wife asked, "Dear, who tore the pages out of my new book?"

The surgeon slapped his forehead and said, "Ah! The back of your book was labeled 'appendix,' and I took it out without thinking."

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I see what you did there. Har de har!!

A surgeon and his wife were sitting at home, quietly reading.

The wife asked, "Dear, who tore the pages out of my new book?"

The surgeon slapped his forehead and said, "Ah! The back of your book was labeled 'appendix,' and I took it out without thinking."