How long before the white working class realizes Trump was just scamming them?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

If I recall correctly you have said your wife voted for him, is she also in the group of people who "just aren't that smart"? I think it would not be a stretch to say that the majority of Trump voters knew he wouldn't lock her up, nor do they really care. Alot of his "promises" before the elections were obviously not going to happen exactly the way they were promised, and again I think most people are well aware of that, that's not what these elections were about despite the left's attempt to make it so.

He implied he did not want to lock her up over the emails...but there are more scandals.

[OriZ 3,157]

He implied he did not want to lock her up over the emails...but there are more scandals.

I think it's safe to say he's not going to lock her up. I mean granted we don't know what's going to come out in the future, but based on what we know now.

[Dakine10 5,452]

If I recall correctly you have said your wife voted for him, is she also in the group of people who "just aren't that smart"? I think it would not be a stretch to say that the majority of Trump voters knew he wouldn't lock her up, nor do they really care. Alot of his "promises" before the elections were obviously not going to happen exactly the way they were promised, and again I think most people are well aware of that, that's not what these elections were about despite the left's attempt to make it so.

I am not saying everyone who voted for Trump is not smart. Specifically we were talking about the white working class voters who believe Trumps policies will benefit them. Generally that would be his economic promises such as ending free trades, bringing manufacturing jobs back, hitting China with huge tariffs.

My wife is a single issue voter. She believes Trump is the best chance for ending sanctions against Russia, which have been devastating for many of her friends and family. If the average American is voting for whats best for Russia, then certainly they should have voted for Trump. I don't base my own vote on what's best for Russia. And my wife doesn't necessarily vote based solely on what's best for America.

[OriZ 3,157]

I am not saying everyone who voted for Trump is not smart. Specifically we were talking about the white working class voters who believe Trumps policies will benefit them. Generally that would be his economic promises such as ending free trades, bringing manufacturing jobs back, hitting China with huge tariffs.

My wife is a single issue voter. She believes Trump is the best chance for ending sanctions against Russia, which have been devastating for many of her friends and family. If the average American is voting for whats best for Russia, then certainly they should have voted for Trump. I don't base my own vote on what's best for Russia. And my wife doesn't necessarily vote based solely on what's best for America.

That is interesting. As an American, I don't see me ever voting based on what's best for Israel. I agree the white working class voters who believe Trump will help them are going to end up very disappointed. However, I still don't see even most of those voters as voting only for these reasons or necessarily buying into the "lock her up" stuff. It was fun while it lasted, but I doubt more than 5% actually took it seriously. Or maybe I just give them too much credit. I also don't think Clinton's policies would have helped them any more than his and have stated my opinion long before the elections that it really doesn't matter who they vote for, their situation is not going to improve in the next 4 years. I don't think that makes them any stupider than those who voted for Clinton believing her or Obama's policies are/were good.

Edited November 26, 2016 by OriZ

[Dakine10 5,452]

That is interesting. As an American, I don't see me ever voting based on what's best for Israel.

We have some Russian Jewish friends who didn't like Obama in 2008 because they felt he was not good for Israel, but they also felt McCain was very anti Russian. IIRC, they didn't vote in the end, but I don't think we ever talked about which candidate was better for America.

[B_J 2,752]

Just a few ways he brought shame to the office:

When he was Senator, he blocked Katrina Aide

He hates white people

He brought socialism to America with the auto bailout, bank bailout and obamacare

Obamacare brought death panels to healthcare

Insurance costs have skyrocketed

He increased welfare benefits

He established Sharia law

He put together laws to take all guns away ( blocked by congress)

He has tripled the national debt and sold the debt to China

Solyndra

As the person who is probably further to the right than anybody who currently posts on this board, I have to say that post was just embarrassing.

[OriZ 3,157]

We have some Russian Jewish friends who didn't like Obama in 2008 because they felt he was not good for Israel, but they also felt McCain was very anti Russian. IIRC, they didn't vote in the end, but I don't think we ever talked about which candidate was better for America.

I have told my wife many times that if it ever came down to:

Candidate A: I agree with on almost every issue, but they're bad for Israel or

Candidate B: I disagree with on almost every issue, but they're good for Israel

I would vote for Candidate A.

The thing I find very interesting is that alot of Russian Jews, even ones I know, even ones that live in Israel...still seem to have that "yearning' for "mother Russia" and still have alot of pride, not just in their origin which is fine, but the country itself, even the way that it's being run these days. I always found that quite perplexing.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

As the person who is probably further to the right than anybody who currently posts on this board, I have to say that post was just embarrassing.

I was asked for specifics and I gave them, can you prove me wrong?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I am not saying everyone who voted for Trump is not smart. Specifically we were talking about the white working class voters who believe Trumps policies will benefit them. Generally that would be his economic promises such as ending free trades, bringing manufacturing jobs back, hitting China with huge tariffs.

My wife is a single issue voter. She believes Trump is the best chance for ending sanctions against Russia, which have been devastating for many of her friends and family. If the average American is voting for whats best for Russia, then certainly they should have voted for Trump. I don't base my own vote on what's best for Russia. And my wife doesn't necessarily vote based solely on what's best for America.

I see specifically "white working class people " are not smart

One of the most racist elitist stereotyping statements I have ever heard made on VJ.

But I forgot your not front the group that creates hatred and divisions.

If I had said Black working class people are not smart, I probably would get the ban hammer.

That is the exact smug attitude that caused the Trump revolution.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Yeah, can't believe he's still posting in this thread after that racist spiel.

I'm white. I work. Is that a bad thing that no one briefed me on? Is there a better way to be white?

I see specifically "white working class people " are not smart

One of the most racist elitist stereotyping statements I have ever heard made on VJ.

But I forgot your not front the group that creates hatred and divisions.

If I had said Black working class people are not smart, I probably would get the ban hammer.

That is the exact smug attitude that caused the Trump revolution.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Not sure what you mean here. Elaborate please?

First, I would need to know which of your personalities am I betting with?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

I think it's safe to say he's not going to lock her up. I mean granted we don't know what's going to come out in the future, but based on what we know now.

When congress gets back the Crooked Foundation investigations will kick in. Unless Obama pardons her in advance

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

As the person who is probably further to the right than anybody who currently posts on this board, I have to say that post was just embarrassing.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

As the person who is probably further to the right than anybody who currently posts on this board, I have to say that post was just embarrassing.

another

[Dakine10 5,452]

I see specifically "white working class people " are not smart

One of the most racist elitist stereotyping statements I have ever heard made on VJ.

But I forgot your not front the group that creates hatred and divisions.

If I had said Black working class people are not smart, I probably would get the ban hammer.

That is the exact smug attitude that caused the Trump revolution.

Play your silly games with someone else.