Divorce in Hongkong

[Tahoma 2,291]

No issue with CFO and the divorce, there are 3-4 that I know of with foreign divorces none had issue with CFO.

In those divorces, was it the Philippines citizen who was the one who filed for the divorce? Or, was it the U.S. citizen who filed for the divorce?

Also, in the cases you are familiar with, did the Philippines citizen have their visa interview in Manila?

Also, where were those couples married? Philippines or the U.S.?

[MarkPerry 488]

In those divorces, was it the Philippines citizen who was the one who filed for the divorce? Or, was it the U.S. citizen who filed for the divorce?

Also, in the cases you are familiar with, did the Philippines citizen have their visa interview in Manila?

Also, where were those couples married? Philippines or the U.S.?

I was under the impression the non Philippines citizen had to petitioner on the divorce for the Philippines to recognize it.

Does getting married in Philippines vs USA have any bearing on a divorce if done abroad?

[Greenbaum 12,259]

I was under the impression the non Philippines citizen had to petitioner on the divorce for the Philippines to recognize it.

Does getting married in Philippines vs USA have any bearing on a divorce if done abroad?

1. Yes the non-Filipino citizen must be the one who initiates the divorce for the Philippines to recolonize it.

2. Marriage country has no baring on the divorce. The divorce carry's the weight of how the Filipino government apply's the divorce against the law..

Here is a discussion of this subject http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/570237-k1-visa-philippine-cenomar-and-divorce-decree/?utm_source=Viber&utm_medium=Chat&utm_campaign=Private

[Sagot 1,548]

In those divorces, was it the Philippines citizen who was the one who filed for the divorce? Or, was it the U.S. citizen who filed for the divorce?

Also, in the cases you are familiar with, did the Philippines citizen have their visa interview in Manila?

Also, where were those couples married? Philippines or the U.S.?

Yes. That is why I made reference, foreigner did not initiate the divorce. All got their visas and none had issue clearing CFO... which was my concern for them when the first one attended. All had been married in the Philippines or completed ROM, so they did not have a CENOMAR anymore, in these cases

They should show up in a search here on VJ

Edited November 26, 2016 by Philippines^Sagot

[JE57 239]

To OP.... It isn't easy... Divorce granted in Hong Kong will allow you to file for a K-1 Visa as you will be seen as free to Marry by the US. However, getting to the point where you are eligible to file for Divorce in Hong Kong is not as easy. 1) To file for a divorce in Hong Kong the minimum requirement is that you must have a 'substantial connection to Hong Kong'. The interpretation of that varies but is unlikely to include a 14 day tourist visa. Further Philippines are only allowed 14 days as a tourist here and that is defiantly not long enough to accomplish a divorce. To pursue this your best bet is to be hired in Hong Kong on some type of work visa.. If Female then Domestic helper visa is an option.. If male it's harder but driver, or perhaps Gardner landscaper is an option. Further I'll point out that if you are a female without a strong job in the Philippines and no work visa for Hong Kong it is very possible that on your attempt to leave the Philippines that you'll be denied exit by Philippines immigration. So called off-loading... In short, your best bet if you want to go this route is start pursuing overseas employment via an Agency approved by POEA. Hong Kong would not be your only option other countries may be available that would also enable divorce as mentioned above but the whole process is not simple unless you have a 'substantial connection' to Hong Kong meaning basically that you are allowed to stay in Hong Kong for longer than the 14 days.

[JE57 239]

As for the CFO sticker... Hank has assured me that others that are still married legally in the Philippines have received a CFO sticker when they were divorced elsewhere. But like mentioned above a non-issue if you journey to the USA directly from Hong Kong. Once you return your residence (green card for US) or other foreign residence negates the need for the CFO sticker on a subsequent exit back to your place of residence.

[Sagot 1,548]

The Hong Kong required is the hurdle to get over.. as mentioned earlier.

[Seriouslady40 3]

I am legally married here in Philippines and we have been separated for like 8 years but annulment is really expensive.I'm planning to stay in Hongkong to get divorce..someone would help me please..

I know someone who got divorce there and how in Texas with her kids .. But she left last year . It would have been a different law this year that the embassy imposed.

[Sagot 1,548]

I know someone who got divorce there and how in Texas with her kids .. But she left last year . It would have been a different law this year that the embassy imposed.

Nothing changed at the embassy ... they still accept divorce decrees to show a person is free to marry

[Mher 0]

Can a filipina get a divorce in hongkong

then marry a foreign national and 

then the filipina will only come back to the philippines ones she becomes a foreign national too. 

So since the filipina is no longer a citizen of the philippines then it doesnt matter whether the philippines will recognize the divorce.

 

is this right?

[Hank_ 9,174]

43 minutes ago, Mher said:

Can a filipina get a divorce in hongkong

then marry a foreign national and 

then the filipina will only come back to the philippines ones she becomes a foreign national too. 

So since the filipina is no longer a citizen of the philippines then it doesnt matter whether the philippines will recognize the divorce.

 

is this right?

Yup, pretty much so.

 

If you divorce in Hong Kong, get married to a foreigner outside the Philippines, obtain citizenship of another country and never re-affirm Philippine citizenship .. then it truly doesn't matter if your divorce isn't recognized.

 

BTW:  As a foreigner you can live long term in the Philippines without dual-citizenship.  You could get the SRRVisa being you would be a former Philippine citizen   https://pra.gov.ph/srrv/

 

 

[Mher 0]

So if youre married in the Philippines. Got divorce in another country. Then obtain citizenship in that country. Then someday visit the philippines. Can your ex-spouse file a case of bigamy in the philippines against you even though youre no longer a filipino citizen?

[Hank_ 9,174]

Doubt it.  The divorce decree is recognized for foreigners without a special court process.

[JE57 239]

On 7/3/2019 at 11:47 AM, Mher said:

So if youre married in the Philippines. Got divorce in another country. Then obtain citizenship in that country. Then someday visit the philippines. Can your ex-spouse file a case of bigamy in the philippines against you even though youre no longer a filipino citizen?

I am not a lawyer but have researched this extensively.   Bigamy is not a problem... The crime act of getting married the '2nd' time in the foreign country was allowed under that countries laws and is not bigamy under laws of the Philippines because the '2nd' marriage is not legal in the philippines.   Likewise if a person from the Phlippines goes to a foreign country and commits a crime in that country (say for example steals a car in the USA) then the Phlippines has no jurisdiction to prosecute that crime. 

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However,  if the Filipino 'ex-spouse' is especially vindictive and the Filipino returns to the the Philippines with their spouse in and lives in the Philippines with that person then while Bigamy is not an option to be prosecuted there is the possibility of charges of Concubinage or Adultery for both the Filipino and the Foreigner  while they are in the Philippines.  It the plan in the future is to return to live in the Philippines or visit long term as a couple then consider annulment or hope that the government finally passes a divorce law.    Adultery comes with 6 years in prison so it's not a trivial thing no matter how unlikely it is. 

[Maylyn&Junior 0]

On 7/4/2019 at 5:58 PM, JE57 said:

I am not a lawyer but have researched this extensively.   Bigamy is not a problem... The crime act of getting married the '2nd' time in the foreign country was allowed under that countries laws and is not bigamy under laws of the Philippines because the '2nd' marriage is not legal in the philippines.   Likewise if a person from the Phlippines goes to a foreign country and commits a crime in that country (say for example steals a car in the USA) then the Phlippines has no jurisdiction to prosecute that crime. 

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However,  if the Filipino 'ex-spouse' is especially vindictive and the Filipino returns to the the Philippines with their spouse in and lives in the Philippines with that person then while Bigamy is not an option to be prosecuted there is the possibility of charges of Concubinage or Adultery for both the Filipino and the Foreigner  while they are in the Philippines.  It the plan in the future is to return to live in the Philippines or visit long term as a couple then consider annulment or hope that the government finally passes a divorce law.    Adultery comes with 6 years in prison so it's not a trivial thing no matter how unlikely it is. 

It is the right time to impose divorce law here in the Philippines...