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We're on the same page here as well. Seems to me that a good amount of people have lost all sense of "a time and a place for everything".

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Well slap my donkey and call me Sally!

Is that an ol' proverb from the old country?

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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You really want to say that this was "equally distasteful"? This was a Judge, a public official, saying something distasteful at a citizenship ceremony. How is that "equally" distasteful as cast members of a play making a political statement?

I get that you think they are both distasteful, and that's fine. But "equally" is pushing it a little bit I have to say.

Both incidents crossed a moral line imo. If you don't think the Hamilton incident was over the line, I doubt you will find this incident over the line. Like you said, we are at a point of going around in circles, no sense in rehashing the whole thing. I will say that you are consistent in your beliefs and don't play favorites, as I try to be as well. These two incidents are on both ends of the political scale, as one was portrayed by the liberal cast of a play and the other was by what appears to be a conservative judge. The fact that you didn't waiver either way, I consider to be a good trait.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Both incidents crossed a moral line imo. If you don't think the Hamilton incident was over the line, I doubt you will find this incident over the line. Like you said, we are at a point of going around in circles, no sense in rehashing the whole thing. I will say that you are consistent in your beliefs and don't play favorites, as I try to be as well. These two incidents are on both ends of the political scale, as one was portrayed by the liberal cast of a play and the other was by what appears to be a conservative judge. The fact that you didn't waiver either way, I consider to be a good trait.

I don't want to go around circles with these topics but variations of the phrase"and if you don't like it go back to where you came from" strike a nerve with me and coming from a judge..more so. I don't see the moral equivalence and I don't view this as a left right thing.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Russia
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I don't want to go around circles with these topics but variations of the phrase"and if you don't like it go back to where you came from" strike a nerve with me and coming from a judge..more so. I don't see the moral equivalence and I don't view this as a left right thing.

The judge should've left politics out of it, plain and simple. If he had said the same about Obama or any other president it would've sounded condescending just the same.

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I don't want to go around circles with these topics but variations of the phrase"and if you don't like it go back to where you came from" strike a nerve with me and coming from a judge..more so. I don't see the moral equivalence and I don't view this as a left right thing.

There is clearly a left/right, liberal/conservative theme to these two incidents.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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The judge should've left politics out of it, plain and simple. If he had said the same about Obama or any other president it would've sounded condescending just the same.

I agree, lets hope all the civics studying these folks did to pass the citizenship test allows them to see through the judge's bs. Edited by Rob L

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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There is clearly a left/right, liberal/conservative theme to these two incidents.

Let me play this back to make sure I understand where you are coming from. These acts are both immoral. The left is excusing the cast of and the right is excusing this judges behavior making both sides hypocritical...is that right? Edited by Rob L

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Let me play this back to make sure I understand where you are coming from. These acts are both immoral. The left is excusing the cast of and the right is excusing this judges behavior making both sides hypocritical...is that right?

If you approve of one and disapprove of the other, yes I think it's a bit hypocritical and I think it is due to one's political beliefs.

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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If you approve of one and disapprove of the other, yes I think it's a bit hypocritical and I think it is due to one's political beliefs.

Ok

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Both incidents crossed a moral line imo. If you don't think the Hamilton incident was over the line, I doubt you will find this incident over the line. Like you said, we are at a point of going around in circles, no sense in rehashing the whole thing. I will say that you are consistent in your beliefs and don't play favorites, as I try to be as well. These two incidents are on both ends of the political scale, as one was portrayed by the liberal cast of a play and the other was by what appears to be a conservative judge. The fact that you didn't waiver either way, I consider to be a good trait.

I think the Hamilton incident was over a far smaller line than the Judge incident. I think the Hamilton incident was in "bad taste", however they are artists. They aren't public officials representing the government at an official ceremony for new US citizens.

I think the two situations are very different. Lines were crossed in both perhaps, but different lines and one was far worse in my opinion. I hold public officials to a higher standard than I do artists/actors. Artists and actors can act in bad taste, but that isn't as bad as a Judge doing it in his role as a representative of our government and legal system.

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I think the Hamilton incident was over a far smaller line than the Judge incident. I think the Hamilton incident was in "bad taste", however they are artists. They aren't public officials representing the government at an official ceremony for new US citizens.

I think the two situations are very different. Lines were crossed in both perhaps, but different lines and one was far worse in my opinion. I hold public officials to a higher standard than I do artists/actors. Artists and actors can act in bad taste, but that isn't as bad as a Judge doing it in his role as a representative of our government and legal system.

I tend to agree with what you said. I too believe that a public official should be held to a higher standard than the average citizen. The two situations are very different. In one case an elected official is crossing the line and abusing his power with citizens. In the other it's the citizens crossing the line with an elected official (imo). Both messages have political connotations and are being delivered by what appears to be opposite ends of the political spectrum. I say appears to be because I am not sure of the judge's politcal affiliation, but his message is one often echoed by conservatives.

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I tend to agree with what you said. I too believe that a public official should be held to a higher standard than the average citizen. The two situations are very different. In one case an elected official is crossing the line and abusing his power with citizens. In the other it's the citizens crossing the line with an elected official (imo). Both messages have political connotations and are being delivered by what appears to be opposite ends of the political spectrum. I say appears to be because I am not sure of the judge's politcal affiliation, but his message is one often echoed by conservatives.

Ya completely agree.

The more I think about the Hamiltion incident the two things I find wrong with it are: 1. The audience's response (I don't think it is ever appropriate for a large group of people to boo/heckle a single individual. I don't support mobs.), which the actors had limited control over and 2. The actor's explicit singling out of Pence in person surrounded by people who at least verbally don't seem to agree with him.

Even if it wasn't the actor's intensions, and they did their best to use the most polite language they could, with an audience surrounding Pence and booing him it was easy to take their attempt at "polite conversation" and have it escalate to something worse.

I think the actual words they said, if you just focus on those, were completely fine and they are allowed to say. I think if Pence wasn't there, and they just made a public statement after the election about their stance, it would have been fine. Putting Pence in the middle of an audience while they said it made it inappropriate. Not because they shouldn't be allowed to say what they did, but just because it can be more easily construed as an attack or a threat when the audience around him is booing him.

EDIT: Like I think a better way for them to do it would have been to have him enjoy the show, and then the next day put out a statement in a paper saying "We hope Vice President-Elect Pence enjoyed our show....political message". Yes it wouldn't have been as "direct" to him but at least it would have avoided the "mob" effect in the audience.

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Ya completely agree.

The more I think about the Hamiltion incident the two things I find wrong with it are: 1. The audience's response (I don't think it is ever appropriate for a large group of people to boo/heckle a single individual. I don't support mobs.), which the actors had limited control over and 2. The actor's explicit singling out of Pence in person surrounded by people who at least verbally don't seem to agree with him.

Even if it wasn't the actor's intensions, and they did their best to use the most polite language they could, with an audience surrounding Pence and booing him it was easy to take their attempt at "polite conversation" and have it escalate to something worse.

I think the actual words they said, if you just focus on those, were completely fine and they are allowed to say. I think if Pence wasn't there, and they just made a public statement after the election about their stance, it would have been fine. Putting Pence in the middle of an audience while they said it made it inappropriate. Not because they shouldn't be allowed to say what they did, but just because it can be more easily construed as an attack or a threat when the audience around him is booing him.

This is pretty much the way I feel about it. It's not so much the message, it's the when and where of it being delivered. That situation could have very easily turned ugly. I also do not approve of mob mentality or riots of any kind in a civilized society.

I originally thought the booing was acceptable, I think booing and cheering is a customary reaction in the US. But the way you put it has me now viewing it in a different way and I agree with you that the booing could be construed as mob mentality and unacceptable as well.

 

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