How Liberals view Blacks.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Not sure where you live, but I have to show a photo ID to pick up my own, and if doing so for my wife, must show her ID or a photocopy of it.

I have never had to show photo ID to pick up a prescription. in fact my husband has picked up most of themfor me.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

True statement. A postal ID is very common in the Philippines, and very necessary to do most anything with the government or a bank. You can add to the list above... Cashing a check requires an ID.

In our wives home country which is much poorer than here by any standard, you need an ID to vote and that dye your thumb to prevent repeat voting. Yet the voter turn out is higher and no one thinks getting an ID is a burden.

I explained the issue to her and she thought it absurd they would allow someone to vote without an ID

[yuna628 9,700]

How does it affect the elderly more than anyone else? Before they were elders, they were like us. Buying things, driving, getting credit... All the things we do now that requires an ID every time we turn around. It's not like you turn 50 or 60 and suddenly your ID is taken away.

This is but a TINY list of things that require a photo ID:

You need one to open a bank account, or to apply for a job to fill that bank account.

You also need an ID to file for unemployment, and to apply for welfare, and Medicaid, and food stamps.

You need a photo ID to apply for Social Security

And to buy a home, and apply for a mortgage, or to rent a home.

You need a photo ID to purchase alcohol or cigarettes.

You need a photo ID to drive a car, you need one to buy a new car, to buy a used car, heck, you even need one to rent a car.

You need a photo ID to get on an airplane, and you need one to get married, and you need one to check into a hotel room for your honeymoon.

You need a photo ID to buy a gun, and to apply for a hunting license and a fishing license, and even to adopt a pet.

You need a photo ID to pick up a prescription, you need one to buy certain kinds of cold medicine, and you need one to donate blood.

You need a photo ID to enter a casino, and you need one to buy lottery tickets.

You need one to buy a video game thats rated M for Mature, and you need one to see a movie rated NC-17.

And for all those things, one typically has to have paid for their photo ID at several points in their life. Why is it suddenly an issue? And if it really is an issue, it can be remedied by providing a free state ID to anyone over say 62 or 65.

Did you know that at one point my mom had no viable ID. Afterall, as an elderly person who doesn't get out much, and was a housewife all her life - why should she have one? She had no need for driving, no need for alcohol and cigs, no need for anything relating to mortages... nothing. As a woman of her age, it might interest you to know she also didn't have a birth certificate. In fact, if my Dad hadn't of learned to drive way back in the day and maintain his license, he too would be up the creek without a paddle, because guess what? My Dad doesn't have a birth certificate either. He was born at home.

My sister also ran into this problem, and she's not elderly. Her birth certificate was nowhere to be found (the US passport office lost this document back around 1979 or so), and she needed an ID finally for the first time. She didn't need an ID to open a bank account back in the day, or have a credit card, or even be on the mortage. I know it's weird, but there was just never a need in this state. A birth document she had (issued by the hospital) was not good enough to this state, so we then found ourselves going through the madness of circles. Bouncing from office to office trying to get them to understand - you see, in order to obtain a birth certificate, regardless of if it's lost, destroyed, or never issued you need... an ID! Now, my birth certificate was destroyed under some really annoying circumstances, but luckily I had my IDs previous to it's loss and could obtain a new one easily enough. It wasn't so easy for my sister, and eventually after a great deal of problems, and literally begging the woman as to our sincerity, she finally issued her one (and broke the law to do it). We went through the same thing with my mother (she actually was not required to have an photo ID for getting SSA benefits but it got to the point it was for some medication she needed). We did eventually get it for her, but since she didn't have any ID, more rules had to be broken after multiple visits, more complaining from the employees about what to do, and an extended waiting period. Meanwhile my Mom, being a cancer survivor had to wait for her medication, while the state figured out she was allowed to have her own birth document. I can tell you my grandparents didn't have any sort of ID, and as far as I can tell their certificates were nowhere to be found. My grandmother was one of 12 kids born in a farmhouse, back in the day there just wasn't any sort of documentation like that. In the south, you can find plenty of people encountering this issue.

It also effects kids that are born into situations you wouldn't call normal or expect to see either. Religious factions that believe in not obtaining any documents whatsoever. They virtually have nothing to prove who they are.

Having the state issue a free ID to everyone might be a good idea, but it's actually proving who you are to obtain the documents to prove to them you are who you are to get that ID can turn into a nightmare. And that's just this state. Some people can never get it resolved.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Yuna - Those are truly extenuating circumstances, and I have only known a couple of people like that. Kinda weird, so many in your one family without IDs?

Edited November 20, 2016 by LFEHFN

[yuna628 9,700]

Yuna - Those are truly extenuating circumstances, and I have only known a couple of people like that. Kinda weird, so many in your one family without IDs?

Things happen, and it does happen to more people than you think. If we solved those problems, get everyone issued an ID, maybe we could get past all the complaining about the issue in a way that works for everyone, ya know?

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Not sure where you live, but I have to show a photo ID to pick up my own, and if doing so for my wife, must show her ID or a photocopy of it.

Florida and never ever

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

So I walk into a pharmacy, and tell them I am Donald Trump, and want my prescription... And they would just hand it over in FL? Sounds pretty lax to me. I am pretty sure it is a federal law that requires one to pick up narcotics?

Sounds to me like your pharmacist may be breaking the law, if we are talking Schedule II, III, IV, or V drugs:

Florida Statutes Annotated

Title XLVI. Crimes (Chapters 775-899)

Chapter 893. Drug Abuse Prevention and Control

893.04. Pharmacist and practitioner

...

(2)...

(b) Any pharmacist who dispenses by mail a controlled substance listed in Schedule II, Schedule III, or Schedule IV is exempt from the requirement to obtain suitable identification for the prescription dispensed by mail if the pharmacist has obtained the patient's identification through the patient's prescription benefit plan.

...

(d) Each written prescription prescribed by a practitioner in this state for a controlled substance listed in Schedule II, Schedule III, or Schedule IV must include both a written and a numerical notation of the quantity of the controlled substance prescribed on the face of the prescription and a notation of the date, with the abbreviated month written out on the face of the prescription. A pharmacist may, upon verification by the prescriber, document any information required by this paragraph. If the prescriber is not available to verify a prescription, the pharmacist may dispense the controlled substance but may insist that the person to whom the controlled substance is dispensed provide valid photographic identification. If a prescription includes a numerical notation of the quantity of the controlled substance or date, but does not include the quantity or date written out in textual format, the pharmacist may dispense the controlled substance without verification by the prescriber of the quantity or date if the pharmacy previously dispensed another prescription for the person to whom the prescription was written.

This portion covers one person picking up a prescription for another:

(2) The following criteria shall cause a pharmacist to question whether a prescription was issued for a legitimate medical purpose:

(a) Frequent loss of controlled substance medications;

(b) Only controlled substance medications are prescribed for a patient;

© One person presents controlled substance prescriptions with different patient names;

(d) Same or similar controlled substance medication is prescribed by two or more prescribers at same time; (e) Patient always pays cash and always insists on brand name product.

(3) If any of the criteria in subsection (2) is met, the pharmacist shall:

(a) Require that the person to whom the medication is dispensed provide picture identification and the pharmacist should photocopy such picture identification for the pharmacist's records. If a photocopier is not available, the pharmacist should document on the back of the prescription complete descriptive information from the picture identification. If the person to whom medication is dispensed has no picture identification, the pharmacist should confirm the person's identity and document on the back of the prescription complete information on which the confirmation is based.

From: http://www.namsdl.org/library/856CB9AF-19B9-E1C5-317AD4BE6BA7D309/

Florida and never ever

[Transborderwife 4,666]

So I walk into a pharmacy, and tell them I am Donald Trump, and want my prescription... And they would just hand it over in FL? Sounds pretty lax to me. I am pretty sure it is a federal law that requires one to pick up narcotics?

Sounds to me like your pharmacist may be breaking the law, if we are talking Schedule II, III, IV, or V drugs:

Florida Statutes Annotated

Title XLVI. Crimes (Chapters 775-899)

Chapter 893. Drug Abuse Prevention and Control

893.04. Pharmacist and practitioner

...

(2)...

(b) Any pharmacist who dispenses by mail a controlled substance listed in Schedule II, Schedule III, or Schedule IV is exempt from the requirement to obtain suitable identification for the prescription dispensed by mail if the pharmacist has obtained the patient's identification through the patient's prescription benefit plan.

...

(d) Each written prescription prescribed by a practitioner in this state for a controlled substance listed in Schedule II, Schedule III, or Schedule IV must include both a written and a numerical notation of the quantity of the controlled substance prescribed on the face of the prescription and a notation of the date, with the abbreviated month written out on the face of the prescription. A pharmacist may, upon verification by the prescriber, document any information required by this paragraph. If the prescriber is not available to verify a prescription, the pharmacist may dispense the controlled substance but may insist that the person to whom the controlled substance is dispensed provide valid photographic identification. If a prescription includes a numerical notation of the quantity of the controlled substance or date, but does not include the quantity or date written out in textual format, the pharmacist may dispense the controlled substance without verification by the prescriber of the quantity or date if the pharmacy previously dispensed another prescription for the person to whom the prescription was written.

This portion covers one person picking up a prescription for another:

(2) The following criteria shall cause a pharmacist to question whether a prescription was issued for a legitimate medical purpose:

(a) Frequent loss of controlled substance medications;

(b) Only controlled substance medications are prescribed for a patient;

© One person presents controlled substance prescriptions with different patient names;

(d) Same or similar controlled substance medication is prescribed by two or more prescribers at same time; (e) Patient always pays cash and always insists on brand name product.

(3) If any of the criteria in subsection (2) is met, the pharmacist shall:

(a) Require that the person to whom the medication is dispensed provide picture identification and the pharmacist should photocopy such picture identification for the pharmacist's records. If a photocopier is not available, the pharmacist should document on the back of the prescription complete descriptive information from the picture identification. If the person to whom medication is dispensed has no picture identification, the pharmacist should confirm the person's identity and document on the back of the prescription complete information on which the confirmation is based.

From: http://www.namsdl.org/library/856CB9AF-19B9-E1C5-317AD4BE6BA7D309/

yup. I've had narcotic prescriptions picked up by my husband no Id required. for the record it was the same back home in Canada. date of birth is always asked for verification

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Canada doesn't count. One can buy marijuana at the corner 7-11.

yup. I've had narcotic prescriptions picked up by my husband no Id required. for the record it was the same back home in Canada. date of birth is always asked for verification

[Rob L 3,811]

My main point is those who oppose voter id, are those who want to continue to cheat. It is not coming from minorities. Voter id is not racist, nor is it viewed as racist by minorities.

This is not what the conservative district court said about Texas voter id laws. They found that the laws had the effect of suppressing non white votes. This does not mean the law creators intended the law to have that effect, just that it did in fact suppress the vote Edited November 20, 2016 by Rob L

[Rob L 3,811]

Hint:

PHOTO ID

The only time I have needed a photo I'd for prescriptions was she I picked up hydrocodone. Otherwise the just ask me for the birthdate. I picked up my wives without id as well

[TBoneTX 45,961]

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