Gaslight nation: Trump pretends he saved Kentucky auto jobs (he didn't)

[Jacque67 7,328]

The thing we have to remember about Donald Trump in the weeks, days and months to come is this: He lies. He lies every day, as often as he wants, about trivial things and about important things. It's why I'm putting no stock in the leaks coming out of Trump Ivory Tower about cabinet members, and it's why everything he tweets should be considered a lie.

Tonight, he tweeted this:

If you were to read those tweets, you might want to go see when it is that Ford announced they were moving production from their Kentucky plants to Mexico. My first instinct was to say, wow, so the corporate overlords are giving Trump some credibility!

I would have been wrong. So too, would you, if you read them that way.

Because there was never any plan for Ford to move production of Lincolns to Mexico from their Kentucky plant. They are planning to move small vehicle production to Mexico, but they are also planning, in accordance with their union agreements, to retool their Michigan plant to build SUVs and larger vehicles.

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/11/gaslight-nation-trump-pretends-he-saved

[eieio 1,594]

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Ford Motor Company has confirmed President-elect Donald Trump's Thursday night statement that he worked with the company to keep them from outsourcing jobs in Kentucky to a new plant in Mexico. (AP Photo/Chris O'Meara, File)

Ford Motor Company has confirmed President-elect Donald Trump's Thursday night statement that he worked with the company to keep them from outsourcing jobs in Kentucky to a new plant in Mexico. (AP Photo/Chris O'Meara, File)

Ford Motors 'encouraged' by Trump to keep jobs in US

By ANNA GIARITELLI (@ANNA_GIARITELLI) 11/18/16 12:02 AM

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Ford Motor Company has confirmed President-elect Trump's Thursday night statement that he worked with the company to keep them from outsourcing jobs in Kentucky to a new plant in Mexico.

"Today, we confirmed with the President-elect that our small Lincoln utility vehicle made at the Louisville Assembly Plant will stay in Kentucky. We are encouraged that President-elect Trump and the new Congress will pursue policies that will improve U.S. competitiveness and make it possible to keep production of this vehicle here in the United States," Ford said in a statement.

Ford staying put may rank as Trump's first win in a campaign that focused heavily boosting the economy and bringing back America's manufacturing-related jobs.

Trump tweeted Thursday night that he recently received a call from the Ford Motor Company Chairman Bill Ford, who told him the company has decided not to outsource its building of Lincoln Navigators from Kentucky to Mexico. Trump credited conversations with Ford as the reason the mega-car company has chosen to keep the plants in the Bluegrass State.

[Rob L 3,811]

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Ford Motor Company has confirmed President-elect Donald Trump's Thursday night statement that he worked with the company to keep them from outsourcing jobs in Kentucky to a new plant in Mexico. (AP Photo/Chris O'Meara, File)

Ford Motor Company has confirmed President-elect Donald Trump's Thursday night statement that he worked with the company to keep them from outsourcing jobs in Kentucky to a new plant in Mexico. (AP Photo/Chris O'Meara, File)

Ford Motors 'encouraged' by Trump to keep jobs in US

By ANNA GIARITELLI (@ANNA_GIARITELLI) 11/18/16 12:02 AM

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Ford Motor Company has confirmed President-elect Trump's Thursday night statement that he worked with the company to keep them from outsourcing jobs in Kentucky to a new plant in Mexico.

"Today, we confirmed with the President-elect that our small Lincoln utility vehicle made at the Louisville Assembly Plant will stay in Kentucky. We are encouraged that President-elect Trump and the new Congress will pursue policies that will improve U.S. competitiveness and make it possible to keep production of this vehicle here in the United States," Ford said in a statement.

Ford staying put may rank as Trump's first win in a campaign that focused heavily boosting the economy and bringing back America's manufacturing-related jobs.

Trump tweeted Thursday night that he recently received a call from the Ford Motor Company Chairman Bill Ford, who told him the company has decided not to outsource its building of Lincoln Navigators from Kentucky to Mexico. Trump credited conversations with Ford as the reason the mega-car company has chosen to keep the plants in the Bluegrass State.

Except Ford never planned to reduce production, only shift the product mux

[eieio 1,594]

I can post it in gibberish, if that will make your comprehension better?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Except Ford never planned to reduce production, only shift the product mux

Never planned to reduce production but to shift it to Mexico was kind of the point .

Sometimes you just got to watch that video of the train hitting the truck one more time

[ready4ONE 5,400]

I can post it in gibberish, if that will make your comprehension better?

I think you already covered the posting of gibberish. Thanks though!

[bcking 3,157]

Never planned to reduce production but to shift it to Mexico was kind of the point .

Sometimes you just got to watch that video of the train hitting the truck one more time

Rob L is referring to details mentioned in articles like this:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/11/18/ford-motor-co-donald-trump-lincoln-kentucky/94063232/

"Ford currently makes both the Ford Escape compact SUV and the MKC in Louisville. Ford said last year it planned to move MKC production to another plant so it could increase production of the Escape. The automaker said at the time no jobs would be lost in Louisville because of plans to boost Escape production."

If this is true, there was never going to be lost jobs. Just an increased production of one kind of car instead of two kinds of cars.

Also if the sentence after the one I quoted is true, they were actually already planning to invest money into the plant as early as 2015.

[Rob L 3,811]

Never planned to reduce production but to shift it to Mexico was kind of the point .

Sometimes you just got to watch that video of the train hitting the truck one more time

The facts on the ground do not support your view.

Ford wanted to invest in the the next generation for the Kentucky and move the lower value commodity work to Mexico.

If pressure from Trump help derail an upgrade to the Louisville plant and it was not other factors, this would be considered a miss for Trump.

But hey in the post fact era...reality is what you make it

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Rob L is referring to details mentioned in articles like this:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/11/18/ford-motor-co-donald-trump-lincoln-kentucky/94063232/

"Ford currently makes both the Ford Escape compact SUV and the MKC in Louisville. Ford said last year it planned to move MKC production to another plant so it could increase production of the Escape. The automaker said at the time no jobs would be lost in Louisville because of plans to boost Escape production."

If this is true, there was never going to be lost jobs. Just an increased production of one kind of car instead of two kinds of cars.

Also if the sentence after the one I quoted is true, they were actually already planning to invest money into the plant as early as 2015.

If you adding production in Mexico instead of adding in the USA ..the rest is easy

[Inikamoze 86]

However in "business" if the outcome of your decision directly benefits your employees by not only keeping them busier with this higher grade model production but potentially have a world class uograded facility to carry it out in whilst boosting company profits (more corp tax for the govt, increased value for shareholders some of whom are "ordinary folk".. and yes I am being overly simplistic about it) then it's what you call a win win.

If you want to suppress investment to keep within the parameters of your closeted view of how the world works in the 21st century then be my guest but it would be to your own detriment.

I know the US can seem very backward at times but the UK went through this a couple of centuries ago... I'll let you research the luddites revolution....

Edited November 19, 2016 by Inikamoze

[jg121783 3,921]

Apple is now considering opening a factory in the US for the first time in 20 years. Nothing to do with Trump becoming president though. Just a coincidence.

[MarkPerry 488]

Apple is now considering opening a factory in the US for the first time in 20 years. Nothing to do with Trump becoming president though. Just a coincidence.

I saw that also, Interesting.

Make America Great Again

[Inikamoze 86]

Haha every snippet of news like this will be credited to he who doth don false hair.

Will you be as quick to accept the failings that will inevitably befall him too?

[Póg mo 1,749]

I can post it in gibberish,

Well you are the expert.

[jg121783 3,921]

Haha every snippet of news like this will be credited to he who doth don false hair.

Will you be as quick to accept the failings that will inevitably befall him too?

Do you have any other reason why Apple is all of a sudden after 20 years looking at opening a factory in the US? If you do I'm open to looking into it. It is likely because they realize it is going to cost them under Trump's policies to keep all their factories in China. Expect more corporations to make similar moves. These are businesses that are in existence to make a profit. It's all about the bottom line. The writing is on the wall. It is going to cost you to produce overseas versus in the US. By the way a Ford spokesman said their changes are because of Trump's pending policies and they are glad they can do more business in the US now. The article posted by the OP is neolib nonsense.