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Hi all,

I am compiling evidence for my ROC. My question is - how much evidence should I provide? For example, credit card statements - am I to provide monthly statements as evidence or can I just include the last 3 months or quarterly statements? Thank you and I appreciate all of your response and help. God bless!

What is impossible with men is possible with God - Luke 18:27

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February 27, 2017 Biometrics Appointment

February 17, 2017 Received NOA2 - ASC Appointment Letter

February 9, 2017 Received NOA1

February 7, 2017 I-751 check payment has been cashed

January 31, 2017 Mailed I-751 packet

March 21, 2015 Received green card in mail - Thank You, Lord.

March 16, 2015 Received Welcome Letter in mail

March 10, 2015 Text message and email received: Green card is in production - did not receive any interview waiver letter and no interview.

December 19, 2014 EAD card received

December 18, 2014 Email update: EAD card is mailed

December 11, 2014 Received email: EAD card in producion

December 2, 2014 Biometrics appointment

November 22, 2014 Received biometrics appointment for AOS and EAD

September 30, 2014 Received NOA1 (I-797C) for AOS and EAD

September 26, 2014 Email and text AOS acceptance notification received (around midnight)

September 19, 2014 AOS and EAD sent

September 11, 2014 Received Social Security Card

September 10, 2014 Civil Surgeon

September 4, 2014 Name change on Social Security Number

August 23, 2014 Wedding Day!

August 8, 2014 Applied for Social Security Number; got marriage license

July 25, 2014 Port of Entry: Chicago

May 16, 2014 CFO seminar

May 13, 2014 Visa on hand

May 5, 2014 Interview: approved

March 13, 2014 Medical exam - third day (went back to St. Lukes for Tdap vaccine)

February 24, 2014 Appointment letter received

February 14, 2014 Medical exam - second day (vaccine day)

February 13, 2014 Medical exam - first day

January 29, 2014 Case received by consulate

January 9, 2014 Case left NVC

December 13, 2013 NOA2

October 18, 2013 NOA1

October 14, 2013 I-129F sent

July 19, 2013 Got engaged!

 

Posted

I would include monthly statements. Others have received RFEs for not providing them all. Good luck! :)

 

 

AOS

03/24/11 - Got married in the Boogie-Down Bronx, NYC!
04/21/11 - Mailed I-130,I-765, I-485, I-864 and I-693 - Day 00

04/23/11 - Application delivered - Day 02
04/28/11 - NOA (most forms) - Day 07
05/03/11 - Checks cashed - Day 12
05/31/11 - Biometrics completed in the Bronx, NYC - Day 40
06/24/11 - Received someone else's employment authorization card!!! What the...? - Day 64
07/01/11 - Mailed the poor lady's card back after calling USCIS - Day 71
07/07/11 - Received poor lady's interview notice! What??? - Day 77
07/15/11 - Received my own EAD card - Day 85
08/12/11 - Interview. Approved on the spot! - Day 113
08/18/11 - Received card in the mail - Day 119

ROC
05/28/13 - Mailed I-751 - Day 00

05/30/13 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/31/13 - NOA I-797 - Day 03
06/04/13 - Check cashed - Day 07

06/06/13 - NOA delivered to my home/Biometrics letter generated - Day 09

06/10/13 - Received Biometrics letter in the mail - Day 13

06/27/13 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 30

09/10/13 - Application approved! - Day 105

09/14/13 - 10 year Green Card received! - Day 109

Citizenship

05/10/16 - Mailed N-400 - Day 00

05/12/16 - Application delivered - Day 02

05/13/16 - Credit card payment accepted - Day 03

05/17/16 - Received text & email update - Day 07

05/20/16 - Received 1st NOA (dated 05/13/16) & created ELIS acct - Day 10

05/21/16 - Received 2nd NOA (dated 05/16/16) confirming my DOB and address - Day 11

05/22/06 - Biometrics scheduled (online update) and appt letter was mailed on 05/20/16 - Day 12

05/24/06 - Biometrics letter became viewable online (appt scheduled for 06/07/16) - Day 14

05/27/16 - Received Biometrics letter in mail - Day 17

05/31/16 - Was denied walk-in fingerprints with just 1 person left in line. Milwaukee office, boo! - Day 21

06/07/16 - Biometrics completed in Milwaukee, WI - Day 28

12/21/16 - Passed Citizenship test/Interview was successful! - Day 197

01/26/17 - I am a US citizen!!! - Day 233

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Australia
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Be sure you include statements FROM THE BEGINNING OF YOUR MARRIAGE. This is the most common mistake people make.

Sukie in NY

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Our Prior Journey

N-400 Naturalization

18-Feb-2018 - submitted N-400 online, credit card charged

18-Feb-2018 - NOA1

12-Mar-2018 - Biometrics 

18-June-2018 - Notice of interview received

26-July-2018 - Interview  - APPROVED!!!

26-July-2018 - Oath Ceremony Scheduled

17-Aug-2018 - Oath Ceremony

 

 

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Spain
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Posted

Be sure you include statements FROM THE BEGINNING OF YOUR MARRIAGE. This is the most common mistake people make.

Sukie in NY

are you saying that without joint accounts there is no way they will approve a ROC request? . Im in the middle of this at the moment and never sent copies of joint a accounts because we dont have them.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Turkey
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Posted

Hi all,

I am compiling evidence for my ROC. My question is - how much evidence should I provide? For example, credit card statements - am I to provide monthly statements as evidence or can I just include the last 3 months or quarterly statements? Thank you and I appreciate all of your response and help. God bless!

Have you looked at this Mega Pinned thread?

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/604970-i-751-cover-letter-list-of-evidence-samples-and-reviews-megathread/

Posted

are you saying that without joint accounts there is no way they will approve a ROC request? . Im in the middle of this at the moment and never sent copies of joint a accounts because we dont have them.

I only have a joint savings account that we opened a year after we married and we barely used, I did include the statements but they were only sent every quarter as we didn't use it enough to get monthly statements. However we also have a joint mortgage and I am on the rental agreements from before we got the house. It just depends if you have other good evidence of financial commingling.

We were just approved.

K-1 Met:2002 Dating :2003 I-129F Sent : 2013-06-01 I-129F NOA2 : 2013-08-20 Medical: 2013-12-20 Interview Date : 2014-01-22 POE: 2014-02-19 Wedding: 2014-03-18

AOS/EAD Date Filed : 2014-04-04 BioAppt: 2014-05-13 EAD in Production: 2014-07-08 Interview date: 2014-07-14 Green Card received: 2014-07-19

ROC Date Filed: 2016-04-26 Cheque Cashed: 2016-05-10 NOA1: 2016-04-28 Biometrics: 2016-06-30 Approved: 11-08-2016 Green Card Received: 11-18-2016

 

Citizenship Date Filed: 2017-04-18 Cheque Cashed: 2017-04-24- NOA1:2017-04-21  Biometrics: 2017-05-19 Inline: 2017-07-12 Interview Date: 2018-02-13 Oath: 2018-03-15

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Posted (edited)

are you saying that without joint accounts there is no way they will approve a ROC request? . Im in the middle of this at the moment and never sent copies of joint a accounts because we dont have them.

I don't think so. They are merely restating what is printed on page 5 of the Form I-751 instructions:

Evidence of the Relationship

Submit copies of documents indicating that the marriage upon which you were granted conditional status was entered in “good faith” and was not for the purpose of circumventing immigration laws. Submit copies of as many documents as you can to establish this fact, to demonstrate the circumstances of the relationship from the date of the marriage to the present date, and to demonstrate any circumstances surrounding the end of the relationship, if it has ended. The documents should include, but are not limited to, the following examples: .....

REF: https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/files/form/i-751instr.pdf (emphasis added)

Initially, we had submitted quarterly statements, etc. We received an RFE for "more 'marriage bonafides evidence' since the inception of the marriage," our successful RFE submission included everything 'cept the kitchen sink.

There have been numerous recent postings of USCIS adjudicators sending out RFEs related to this very instruction. Several of us have recently fun afoul of very picky adjudicators.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/550585-helpthey-are-requesting-more-evidence-form-i-751/

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/550902-advice-evidence/page-2

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/569497-need-help-for-request-for-evidence-ref/?hl=%2Bmarriage+%2Bbonafides#entry7851434

YMMV.

Good luck on your immigration journey.

Edited by Pitaya

Completed: K1/K2 (271 days) - AOS/EAD/AP (134 days) - ROC (279 days)

"Si vis amari, ama" - Seneca

 

 

 

Posted

Be sure you include statements FROM THE BEGINNING OF YOUR MARRIAGE. This is the most common mistake people make.

Sukie in NY

Thanks alot! What about affidavits, can I have a family member (second degree family member) write the affidavit? Should it be notarized?

Also photos, I went to Walgreens to have them printed. Can I just out then all in an envelope or would it be better for them to be secured / paste on a copy paper?

Thanks for your help once again!

What is impossible with men is possible with God - Luke 18:27

Spoiler

Our Timeline

February 27, 2017 Biometrics Appointment

February 17, 2017 Received NOA2 - ASC Appointment Letter

February 9, 2017 Received NOA1

February 7, 2017 I-751 check payment has been cashed

January 31, 2017 Mailed I-751 packet

March 21, 2015 Received green card in mail - Thank You, Lord.

March 16, 2015 Received Welcome Letter in mail

March 10, 2015 Text message and email received: Green card is in production - did not receive any interview waiver letter and no interview.

December 19, 2014 EAD card received

December 18, 2014 Email update: EAD card is mailed

December 11, 2014 Received email: EAD card in producion

December 2, 2014 Biometrics appointment

November 22, 2014 Received biometrics appointment for AOS and EAD

September 30, 2014 Received NOA1 (I-797C) for AOS and EAD

September 26, 2014 Email and text AOS acceptance notification received (around midnight)

September 19, 2014 AOS and EAD sent

September 11, 2014 Received Social Security Card

September 10, 2014 Civil Surgeon

September 4, 2014 Name change on Social Security Number

August 23, 2014 Wedding Day!

August 8, 2014 Applied for Social Security Number; got marriage license

July 25, 2014 Port of Entry: Chicago

May 16, 2014 CFO seminar

May 13, 2014 Visa on hand

May 5, 2014 Interview: approved

March 13, 2014 Medical exam - third day (went back to St. Lukes for Tdap vaccine)

February 24, 2014 Appointment letter received

February 14, 2014 Medical exam - second day (vaccine day)

February 13, 2014 Medical exam - first day

January 29, 2014 Case received by consulate

January 9, 2014 Case left NVC

December 13, 2013 NOA2

October 18, 2013 NOA1

October 14, 2013 I-129F sent

July 19, 2013 Got engaged!

 

Filed: Timeline
Posted

We are about to send our I-751 package next week and we provided monthly statements for the following:

  • Rent, trash and utilities (comes as one statement)
  • joint checking/savings account
  • credit cards
  • brokerage accounts
  • bills (phone, electricity)

For auto insurance, we provided copies of all renewal statements (every 6 months) and copies of all insurances cards.

Regarding photos - we printed them on a regular paper and labeled them with the trip/event name plus a short description.

Regarding evidences from the beginning of the marriage, we were living abroad while waiting for I-130 to be approved. During that time, we didn't have joint bank accounts (wife used her US bank account), credits cards (wife used US credit card), auto insurance (wife didn't drive) or health insurance (provided by gov.), so the only thing we can provide is our lease agreements and wire transfers from my foreign bank to my wife's bank account.

ROC (CSC)

  • 11/21/2016 - Package sent
  • 11/22/2016 - Package received
  • 11/29/2016 - Check cashed
  • 11/30/2016 - Two NOA1 letters received (NOA1 date: 11/22/2016)
  • 12/08/2016 - Bio-metrics appointment letter received
  • 12/22/2016 - Bio-metrics appointment (12/09/2016 - early walk-in)
  • 02/25/2018 - We received your case
  • 02/26/2018 - We received your case
  • 05/18/2018 - Status changed to New Card Is Being Produced
Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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We are about to send our I-751 package next week and we provided monthly statements for the following:

  • Rent, trash and utilities (comes as one statement)
  • joint checking/savings account
  • credit cards
  • brokerage accounts
  • bills (phone, electricity)

For auto insurance, we provided copies of all renewal statements (every 6 months) and copies of all insurances cards.

Regarding photos - we printed them on a regular paper and labeled them with the trip/event name plus a short description.

Regarding evidences from the beginning of the marriage, we were living abroad while waiting for I-130 to be approved. During that time, we didn't have joint bank accounts (wife used her US bank account), credits cards (wife used US credit card), auto insurance (wife didn't drive) or health insurance (provided by gov.), so the only thing we can provide is our lease agreements and wire transfers from my foreign bank to my wife's bank account.

You could include copies of both driver's license (showing the same address). Life insurance (showing spouse as beneficiary), Will, Advanced Medical Directive (spouse authorized to make medical decisions) etc. are not just good evidence at this stage but a good idea to have in place anyway.

Like you, my spouse was living in India, while she was waiting for the I130 approval. So we could not open a joint account right after marriage. But as soon as she came over we opened a joint bank account and also included her name on my CC. Of course we had to wait until she had her SS # in hand to do this. So although we are married for 3+ years now, we could only include about 1.5 years of financial commingling.

IR-1/CR-1 Visa
Service Center : National Benefits Center; Consulate : Mumbai, India; Marriage (if applicable): 2013-07-05
USCIS
I-130 Sent : 2013-07-20; I-130 NOA1 : 2013-07-26; I-130 Transferred to CSC: 2014-01-13; I-130 Approved: 2014-01-22
NVC
NVC Received: 2014-02-03; AOS Bill Shows PAID: 2014-03-19
NVC Case # and IIN Assigned: 2014-03-11; AOS Package Delivered: 2014-03-21;
Submitted/Completed DS-261 online: 2014-03-12; AOS Package Touched: 2014-03-25;
Receive & Pay AOS Bill : 2014-03-13; AOS Package Approved: 2014-04-08
AOS Package Mailed (USPS Priority): 2014-03-18;
IV Bill:
Receive & Pay IV Bill: 2014-03-24; False Checklist for Civil Documents: 2014-04-07
IV Bill Shows PAID: 2014-03-26; Case Completed at NVC: 2014-04-16;
IV Package Mailed (USPS Priority): 2014-03-26; Case Complete Email Received: 2014-04-23
IV Package Received by NVC: 2014-03-31; Interview scheduled: 2014-05-01;
IV Package Touched: 2014-04-03 (still in review); IL Email Received: 2014-05-01
DS-260 Available/Completed/Submitted: 2014-03-27
Consulate: Mumbai
Fingerprinting & Photo: 2014-05-09 Medicals: 2014-05-19
Interview: 2014-06-04 Visa Approved CEAC Website Status "Issued": 2014-06-05
USCIS ELIS Fee Paid: 2014-06-08 Passport w/Visa Received: 2014-06-09
POE (LAX): 2014-07-20 SS# Received: 2014-07-28
Actual GC received 2014-08-30
CA ID Received: 2014-09-02.
First job in USA (yeeeh!!!) starting: 2014-09-22
Taking driving lessons....!!!!

ROC
Application Sent: 2016-04-26
NOA1:2016-04-28
Biometrics: 2016-06-02 (early walk-in on May 31st)

ROC Approval Email and Online Status Change - 2016-11-07
Google Doc for April 2016 filers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12Mb-ALcbwQbYafLj4vFaEMjSGD-wfjtrycs3ul8QlUo/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

Posted (edited)

You could include copies of both driver's license (showing the same address). Life insurance (showing spouse as beneficiary), Will, Advanced Medical Directive (spouse authorized to make medical decisions) etc. are not just good evidence at this stage but a good idea to have in place anyway.

Like you, my spouse was living in India, while she was waiting for the I130 approval. So we could not open a joint account right after marriage. But as soon as she came over we opened a joint bank account and also included her name on my CC. Of course we had to wait until she had her SS # in hand to do this. So although we are married for 3+ years now, we could only include about 1.5 years of financial commingling.

We're in the same situation and so are a lot of people who came here on CR-1s so don't worry :)

Edit: Just seen you already got approved so at least now I'm worrying less lol

Edited by Ketsuban

ROC from CR-1 visa (Green Card expiration date was Nov 24th 2016)

 

Link to the evidence I submitted. Be sure to send evidence spanning your entire marriage (especially for K-1) or as far back as you can. Just one or two bank statements will not cut it. I primarily focused on the two years of living here since I came in on a CR-1. If you don't have the fundamentals (i.e. joint accounts/policies), you can explain why in the covering letter. E.g. "While we do not have joint utilities, we both contribute to them from our joint bank account".

 

September 26th 2016: I-751 package sent to CSC

September 28th 2016: Package delivered
September 30th 2016: Check cashed
October 3rd 2016: NOA1 received with receipt date of 09/28/16
November 3rd 2016: Biometrics received with appointment date of 11/14/16.
November 14th 2016: Attended biometrics appointment
October 30th 2017: Infopass appointment to get I-551 stamp
February 26th 2018: I-751 case number (aka the NOA1 receipt number) becomes trackable
March 14th 2018: Submitted service request due to being outside of processing time.

March 15th 2018: ROC approved. 535 days (1 year, 5 months and 17 days)

March 29th 2018: Card being produced

April 4th 2018: Card mailed out

April 6th 2018: Card in hand. Has incorrect "resident since" date. Submitted service request on I-751 case (typographical error on permanent resident card) and an I-90 online.

April 2018 - August 7th 2018: Tons of service requests, emails and now senator involvement to get my corrected green card back because what the heck, USCIS. Also some time in May I sent a letter to Potomac telling them I want to withdraw my I-90 since CSC were handling it.

August 8th 2018: Card in production thanks to the direct involvement of Senator Sherrod Brown's team

August 13th 2018: Card mailed

August 15th 2018: Card in hand with correct date. :joy:

October 31st 2018: Potomac sends out a notice stating they have closed out my I-90 per my request. Yay for no duplicate card drama.

 
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